Liberal media? No- its just media

[malestro]

Conservatives- and I am one... Constantly complain about the media being biased. Other then 'their radio programs.' this is the one thing I can't stand. In fact maybe I should have titled this topic differently. The parties have nothing to do with the media. Te media is a bitch to whoever they wanna be a bitch to. Their are very few honest and straightfoward medias out there. I mean sure they express the true stories of accidents and all. But since when- has the media ever taken a side and kept it. The media is unbiased and stupid. Its UNPREDICTABLE. In fact I don't even know how to explain it. Its just... like a world gone mad. Its OWN little world gone mad that is..

[kraor024]

I disagree, The media is biased but it is biased on both sides some networks are conservative & some are liberal, the media now is just a product to be packaged & sold like everything else, some newspapers & tv stations choose to market toward conservatives & some towards liberals, the sad thing is that a long time ago when there were only three tv station in the country the tv news attempted to be non biased, but that era is gone now.

[glomph]

The Media is in most cases funded and run by very intelligent people, to think otherwise is naive. They have very specific agendas and make sure their media report accordingly. Other types of media are often 'grass roots', these have strong bias towards their specific interest groups. So I always try to take news with a pinch of salt. Don't ever think they are stupid though. They may act stupid but that is just to relate to their audience.

[Patton3]

Now I consider myself a liberal, but I agree that the media isn't liberally biased to any excessive degree. Just watch FOX, listen to AM radio, or read local newspapers in traditionally red states (Texas, Georgia, Tennesee, etc.).

Also, many people overstate bias in the media. A great example of this is a kid in my English class who's writing a report on " The liberal bias that has been taking over the media for the past 60 years ".
This coming from the same guy honestly doesn't think FOX news is conservatively biased and thinks Sarah Palin actually has a chance at winning in 2012.

[heroicspatula]

At 2/8/09 08:00 PM, Patton3 wrote: Now I consider myself a liberal, but I agree that the media isn't liberally biased to any excessive degree. Just watch FOX, listen to AM radio, or read local newspapers in traditionally red states (Texas, Georgia, Tennesee, etc.).

So, since these are the only conservative media outputs, everything else must be liberal, right?

This coming from the same guy honestly doesn't think FOX news is conservatively biased and thinks Sarah Palin actually has a chance at winning in 2012.

a lot can happen between now and 2012 which Obama could do to screw up, so please don't fall into the "Obama is teh Messiah!!" crowd.

[malestro]

All I'm trying to say is the media is unbiased as a WHOLE. There are biased parts of it. They do factual stories, but tyhere are times when you can read thingss that are twisted and horrifyingly awful. Then there are just some reports they shouldn't do at all. Their nosy scallywags... Did I just say scallywags? I need to go lay down. Lol.

[homor]

most of the people crying at the top of a Mountain over Fox News being biased have probebly only seen a 5 minute clip on youtube that was taken out of context and covered in the uploaders own opinion from head-to-toe with captions, descriptions and even in the title.

[Dawnslayer]

At 2/8/09 08:22 PM, MuyBurrito wrote: Fox news counteracts a slight liberal bias spread throughout the rest of the 24 hr news networks with as much conservative bias as would be required to keep it statistically "fair and balanced". Any variation of this argument is enough to give a FOX news devotee a minor stress headache.

There is no such thing as "fair and balanced" news. There is only the fairness and balance that matches our personal bias. As a left-leaner who tries to be a centrist, I prefer NBC and CNN. As for FNC, I admit I haven't seen eough to pass judgment, but from what I have seen (namely the "Sexbox?" stint, in its original form), they can be pretty one-sided.

[Tancrisism]

At 2/8/09 09:28 PM, homor wrote: most of the people crying at the top of a Mountain over Fox News being biased have probebly only seen a 5 minute clip on youtube that was taken out of context and covered in the uploaders own opinion from head-to-toe with captions, descriptions and even in the title.

I actually watch Fox News somewhat frequently and I can say it is quite biased. Especially people like Sean Hannity, who runs (or ran) tri-weekly specials on how Obama is a terrorist before he was elected, and then invited anyone who didn't like Obama onto his show afterwords to discuss how he would turn the US into a socialist dictatorship.

That isn't to say the other newstations aren't biased, of course. You can tell the bias of a station by who they invite on (such as Olbermann on MSNBC) and the subject matter they decide to show. CNN is well known for their choice in subject matter that sheds a more positive light on the Democrats than Republicans.

But to say Fox News isn't biased is absolutely ridiculous.

Also, I agree with Muy. Often Fox, for instance, will actually give real news during their news hours, even if it does have a right-leaning slant. You can extract information from these sources, but you really must be careful and skeptical. This goes for the rest, too.

[slowerthenb4]

there is definitely a liberal bias to a majority of the media.

there is also a lack of complex principles and intellectually based programming in a majority of the media.

you have a responsibility to weed through the crap. what NEWS do you watch?

[homor]

At 2/9/09 12:08 AM, Tancrisism wrote: I actually watch Fox News somewhat frequently and I can say it is quite biased. Especially people like Sean Hannity,

Sean Hannity is crazy, but hes a commentator, hes payed to give his opinion, not to report the news.

[D2Kvirus]

One thing about this supposed "liberal media bias" that always confuses me - where is this liberal media people are talking about?

Take the UK: The majority of all British papers are on the Right (The Guardian and The Independent the only ones on the Left - The Times, The Telegraph, The Daily Mail, The Evening Standard, The Daily Express, The Sun, The Mirror, The Star and all the freesheets are on varying points of the Right), Sky News is the UK wing of Fox News, whilst on terrestrial Channel 4 news is on the Left, Five News is a subsidiary of Sky News, BBC News toes the ruling party line (so has been on the Right for 30 years), and ITN follows suit.

[malestro]

At 2/9/09 09:07 AM, homor wrote:

At 2/9/09 12:08 AM, Tancrisism wrote: I actually watch Fox News somewhat frequently and I can say it is quite biased. Especially people like Sean Hannity,

Sean Hannity is crazy, but hes a commentator, hes payed to give his opinion, not to report the news.

Sean Hannity isn't really 'media' in the term of news. hes a conservative talk show host.

[n64kid]

All media is biased, but it's not always biased in one direction or another. That's where the word balance comes into effect. No news source is without bias, like FOX, but it's been rated the most balanced again and again and again. It has a right tilt, but has plenty of pro-liberal stories and shows. Most American news networks have an overwhelming majority of liberal programming. If you take all the major TV media outlets in America, the ones that reach population centers, and judge them as unbiased, left leaning or right leaning, you'll get a net left leaning result. Simple as that.

[Patton3]

At 2/8/09 08:16 PM, heroicspatula wrote:

At 2/8/09 08:00 PM, Patton3 wrote: Now I consider myself a liberal, but I agree that the media isn't liberally biased to any excessive degree. Just watch FOX, listen to AM radio, or read local newspapers in traditionally red states (Texas, Georgia, Tennesee, etc.).

So, since these are the only conservative media outputs, everything else must be liberal, right?

No, if you had read it more carefully, you could see that I never stated in any way that the examples I listed were the only Conservative media outlets, just some very prominent and well known ones. Other media outlets could be liberal, neutral, bi-partisan, or might not have anything to do with politics at all.

This coming from the same guy honestly doesn't think FOX news is conservatively biased and thinks Sarah Palin actually has a chance at winning in 2012

a lot can happen between now and 2012 which Obama could do to screw up, so please don't fall into the "Obama is teh Messiah!!" crowd.

If Obama screws up so badly that Sarah Palin actually has a snowball's chance in hell of winning we're in some deep, deep shit. Besides, in no way do I think Obama's the Messiah...just that he's the best we'll see in a while.

Oh, and can you name one person whom you've actually met in person that has dirctly said "Obama's the Messiah!"?

[AntiangelicAngel]

Goddamn the liberal media! Damn them and the conservative corporations and stockholders that own them! Damn them all to hell!