At 2/8/09 10:49 AM, a22 wrote:
As much as our minds insist that "something has to come from somewhere" threre has to be something that always existed with the same reasoning, it doesn't have to be supernatural or beyond our universe although it could be. I don't understand why people have such a huge need to think back in time to "the beginning". Time is relative to the observer as Einstein figured out. It's an illusion of our minds. If you start thinking about the fact that there can't be a series of events that goes back in time infinitely, well who knows, there's still no reason to logically come up with a God character
Sure, if you want to look at it that way you could say 'something' had to be there first, I'm simply suggesting that a non-physical entity, such as a force or group of forces may have been what created energy/matter. The fact is we don't understand it, and quite possibly we never will. As you agree though, there is no reason to think of it as a God character.
At 2/8/09 10:52 AM, YoungAndWise wrote:
That actually makes sense. If you think about it for a second, since the existence of humanity we've always been in constant evolution and learning more complex concepts, to the point of being able to explain and create the things we do today. However, if you look at the past, a person from the present could say ''If only people from back then knew what we do today!''. Who says the same thing won't happen to us?
My point is that a lot of important things that were ignored years ago were discovered, and now those from the past seem ignorant. I'd bet my lunch we will be just as ignorant compared to the future generation, so we can't expect to answer all our questions, but eventually we might do.
I have no doubt of that, technology and science are advancing at a faster rate than ever before, in a couple of hundred years I expect the world will be a very different place. Just think of the differences our own grandparents have witnessed within their lifetimes!
It is very stupid of any humanity to think it knows everything, or indeed to think it could ever know everything. For every thing we discover another dozen questions appear. 2000 years ago a 'God' was no doubt the only way humans could even begin to explain the world around them (Gods pulled the Sun around the Earth etc etc), but in the years between then and now we've progressed a colossal distance to the point where only these very difficult questions are left unexplained. To still think of a God as a necessary explanation is to ignore all the advances we've already made. Is it so hard to say 'we don't know' rather than still say 'we don't know so it must have been some supreme being that controls all these unknowns'.
And that still doesn't mean worshiping such a being is in any way beneficial to society, unless of course society acknowledges his lack of existence or physical impact on our lives and uses religion purely as a social structuring device to maintain control and order within society. Maybe it can make people feel better to think of a God, but God himself does not reach down and make people happier, if that makes sense.