Eternal Life?

[JudeZombi]

Considering that the body is only a shell to support the brain, could you consider yourself "immortal" by replaceing the body with mechanical/cloned parts as they aged with time? Consiquently you could just continue to replace bodyparts for as long as you wish? Even if you replaced the bodyparts would't the brain age as well? Does the brain age like the body or can that be replaced as well?

[Aryk]

It'd be a bit hard to replace your whole body though, don't you think?

[Grim13x]

There are more important things in life then eternal life,, and that is cheese toasties.

[dx5231]

At 2/6/09 04:59 PM, Grim13x wrote: There are more important things in life then eternal life,, and that is cheese toasties.

Actually, sex.

[xanez]

your brain would eventually just rot and disintigrate

[DroopyA]

The brain ages with the body... or so I would assume.

It seems to me, that old people have trouble remembering and learning. A fair amount of them also go crazy... even if it's just by a little bit.

Crazy old brain in a sweet robot body... sounds like a plan for disaster to me. Then again, it sounds too cool to pass up. I suport it!

[Ironosaur]

At 2/6/09 04:59 PM, ArykSB wrote: It'd be a bit hard to replace your whole body though, don't you think?

No, not really.

[Hoeloe]

At 2/6/09 05:09 PM, Ironosaur wrote:

At 2/6/09 04:59 PM, ArykSB wrote: It'd be a bit hard to replace your whole body though, don't you think?

No, not really.

Erm... ever occur to you that Jellyfish are a very simple form of life and in fact lack a brain?

[Ironosaur]

At 2/6/09 05:10 PM, Hoeloe wrote:

At 2/6/09 05:09 PM, Ironosaur wrote:

At 2/6/09 04:59 PM, ArykSB wrote: It'd be a bit hard to replace your whole body though, don't you think?

No, not really.

Erm... ever occur to you that Jellyfish are a very simple form of life and in fact lack a brain?

Erm... yes.

It's a start though, as soon as scientists figure out how these things actually do become immortal, they could apply it to other things.

[Sheizenhammer]

At 2/6/09 04:58 PM, JudeZombi wrote: Does the brain age like the body or can that be replaced as well?

It does. Although brain cells have very long lifespans (as far as cells are concerned), they do die off eventually. No part of you is immortal, so you'd have to extend the 'spare parts' idea to bits of your brain as well, when they wear out and die.
The annoying thing here is, while it is (theoretically) possible, replacing bits of your brain would be like swapping your computer's hard drives for new ones, without the option to back up any of the data on them. They will serve you as well as (if not better than) the old ones did, but all the information on them would be lost.

Applied to this: you might be able to live forever, but every so often, you'd forget bits of who you are and what you did in said eternal life. after enough years, you'd likely be someone else entirely. So is it really worth it? Either you die in one sense, or in another.

[IbJammin]

At 2/6/09 04:58 PM, JudeZombi wrote: Considering that the body is only a shell to support the brain, could you consider yourself "immortal" by replaceing the body with mechanical/cloned parts as they aged with time? Consiquently you could just continue to replace bodyparts for as long as you wish? Even if you replaced the bodyparts would't the brain age as well? Does the brain age like the body or can that be replaced as well?

Well in theoretically yes, you could live for ever that is if you have no problems. Hence today we even have trouble keeping replace organs because they tend to be rejected but if you replace all your orignal organs then are you the same person? SO if your not the same person how could you live forever? possiblely in the near future , yes we could have biocomputer organs. I how do not want to live forever, I view life as the ancient greeks did, They belivie that their children held their immortalty, So basically you do live forever in a sense if you belivie that.

Have a nice day,
IbJammin

[Aughiris]

Interestingly enough, I have read somewhere that all the data (aka: you) stored in ones brain may one day in fact be capable of being transferred to a computer, storing your consciousness on a harddrive. As long as this harddrive is not destroyed, you could live forever (untill the universe collapses, but that's another story).

[Deerinthefield94]

no the brain ages why do you think old people get crazy and shit.

[JudeZombi]

But as such, could't you "just" invent a drug that keept the rejuvination going inside the brain so the brain would continue to replace the lost cells?

[ngmastah]

At 2/6/09 05:10 PM, Hoeloe wrote:

At 2/6/09 05:09 PM, Ironosaur wrote:

At 2/6/09 04:59 PM, ArykSB wrote: It'd be a bit hard to replace your whole body though, don't you think?

No, not really.

Erm... ever occur to you that Jellyfish are a very simple form of life and in fact lack a brain?

Hahah, just what I was think there.

[unbelivable]

At 2/6/09 04:58 PM, JudeZombi wrote: Considering that the body is only a shell to support the brain, could you consider yourself "immortal" by replaceing the body with mechanical/cloned parts as they aged with time? Consiquently you could just continue to replace bodyparts for as long as you wish? Even if you replaced the bodyparts would't the brain age as well? Does the brain age like the body or can that be replaced as well?

Thats a pretty interesting questions. Your body and main orgrans give power to your brain but essentually if you had a powersource hooked up to your brain you could change everything with other parts.

[Zombified]

I've never thought about it like that actually. I would think it would be quite expensive though.

[Sensationalism]

At 2/6/09 05:23 PM, Aughiris wrote: Interestingly enough, I have read somewhere that all the data (aka: you) stored in ones brain may one day in fact be capable of being transferred to a computer, storing your consciousness on a harddrive. As long as this harddrive is not destroyed, you could live forever (untill the universe collapses, but that's another story).

For some reason, that made me think of the Dr. Who episode where that last pure human lady was living in her stretched out skin and then tried getting into Rose, Dr. Who, and others. You know which one I'm talking about? The one with the cat nurses?

[tigerkitty]

At 2/6/09 06:01 PM, unbelivable wrote:
Thats a pretty interesting questions. Your body and main orgrans give power to your brain but essentually if you had a powersource hooked up to your brain you could change everything with other parts.

This is still running along the assumption, though, that the brain does not age. I've always wondered that people accept that body parts age and wear out, but the brain never should. It's perhaps because people may not "out-live their brain" as it were.

But, contrary to popular belief, the brain does age. It goes through various processes which decrease the connectivity of synapses. It wears out just like anything else on a human.

[JudeZombi]

And even if such drug were to be made or even exisit, you would be kind of resetting your brain from a historical personality point of view as it would just recreate the old cells. What you would need is a way to force the old cells to copy themselfs into a younger from but to remain the same cell without altering any contence it currently stored.

That sounds about right. From that point onward once the brain is secured you could keep the brain under an artifical support and sort of attach it to a new body or an artifical one for that sake. In time with advance in the nural links betwean the brain and the body includeing how the brain speaks trough the spine, you could in laymans terms just "hook-up" your brain to a new body, bit like a jackstick.

Sounds wierd but also gives you eternal life.

[JRocks]

Joe the plummer v12.2

[Brick-top]

Eternal life is more of a curse than a gift.

[sirtom93]

Cells are in your brain, thus they would break down and die - killing you.

[JudeZombi]

Well yes, the fact you will end up seeing eveyone around die, eventuly you would go insane. But what if it emplaced with eveyone around you? What if eveyone around were "immortal"? Would the end result be a global suicide? As such with the limitation of "mortality" we would be free to research, create and alter eveything around us without the fear of running out of time. But once we learn to master and control nature what is beond that then? We learnd about alien lifefroms (and/or/if) etc etc.

Putting that aside, being able to explore the universe and seeing its ending (possibly advoiding it/altering/recreating/interupting it) for all time, would't that truely be an awsome "destiny"? Imagen the amout of porn you would be able to watch? O_O

[AwfulAwful]

At 2/6/09 05:04 PM, Franklin-Moore wrote:

At 2/6/09 05:02 PM, xanez wrote: your brain would eventually just rot and disintigrate

How the fuck would you know. You can't even spell "disintegrate".

Be nice, his is starting to.

[jerry7007]

you brain would age and you wouldn't know if you ate cheese tosties and when.

[Permanent]

At 2/6/09 05:23 PM, Aughiris wrote: Interestingly enough, I have read somewhere that all the data (aka: you) stored in ones brain may one day in fact be capable of being transferred to a computer, storing your consciousness on a harddrive. As long as this harddrive is not destroyed, you could live forever (untill the universe collapses, but that's another story).

That actually sounds somewhat similar to this(2nd paragraph after the list) :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega_point #Tipler.27s_cosmological_Omega_Point