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At 2/6/09 02:23 AM, Gustavos wrote: I asked her what are her hobbies, what does she like or into, and yet no answers. It looks like she thinks about it, but gives up after a few seconds.

With that said, she might be suffering from perpetual brain farts.

At 2/6/09 08:23 PM, ChiefWhatMan wrote: Maybe the girl would prefer to drive the 200 miles to their home just to take a major dump.

At least she'll be able to see all the ocean sites while driving across the Pacific Ocean.

At 2/6/09 08:31 PM, Expl0it wrote: long story...

Imagine what it's like to tell it.

At 2/6/09 08:33 PM, fofizzle wrote:

At 2/6/09 02:23 AM, Gustavos wrote: I asked her what are her hobbies, what does she like or into, and yet no answers. It looks like she thinks about it, but gives up after a few seconds.

With that said, she might be suffering from perpetual brain farts.

At the age of seven, I knew what one was. What was it exactly?

She must know how much fun it is to never say a word to anyone.
at my school i'm always REALLY quiet, and once someone even came up to me and asked me if i would ever say a single word to them. they had this huge grin on their face because they must've thought that it would be impossible for me to NOT say a word to them if i answered...
i shook my head "no" without talking.
:P

At 2/6/09 08:44 PM, evan210 wrote: She must know how much fun it is to never say a word to anyone.
at my school i'm always REALLY quiet, and once someone even came up to me and asked me if i would ever say a single word to them. they had this huge grin on their face because they must've thought that it would be impossible for me to NOT say a word to them if i answered...
i shook my head "no" without talking.

P

No, stop. You would only do this because of the novelty of doing it. Not because you would find it hilarious.

She's not doing this because she likes the idea of screwing with people.

Right now I'm trying to formulate a way for me to find out the reason for her behavior on when I talk to her on Monday. It's not easy finding out words to put together.

It sounds like she doesn't like you.

This is her in her head:
(Uh, this guy is creepy and/or stupid and/or ugly and/or I don't like him. Get away from me. I'm just responding with quick answers so he leaves already.)

Wouldn't you?

You can't know why she isn't talking, but dude, it happens. Give up and go talk to another girl who isn't so cold to you.

At 2/6/09 10:25 PM, Armake21truth wrote: You can't know why she isn't talking, but dude, it happens. Give up and go talk to another girl who isn't so cold to you.

Aww, but everybody's either a slut or somebody I reeeaaally don't want to even stand near. Yeah, there are other nice girls out there, but when a Japanese girl comes in as a new student one day (remember how I always like the Japanese these days), it's a bit more like Luck saying "Gustavos, I'm going to take a break from pissing you off and throw you a chewed up bone". And I am one desperate dog who will always go after any opportunity that slaps me across the face.

In English, I always take advantage of anything in my life that is lucky. But in a positive way.

At 2/6/09 10:23 PM, Mystery-Moon-Pie wrote: It sounds like she doesn't like you.

This is her in her head:
(Uh, this guy is creepy and/or stupid and/or ugly and/or I don't like him. Get away from me. I'm just responding with quick answers so he leaves already.)

Wouldn't you?

Don't you think I would be able to tell if she wanted me gone? It sure wouldn't explain how she always joins my team in Hockey during PE. And to humor her, I'll do the same just for the hell of it. And as previously mentioned:

At 2/6/09 01:09 AM, Gustavos wrote: she tends to purposely be near me as if giving me a chance to chat with her. Now that is generous and a sign that she likes hearing me say some basic shit, but I don't know what she really wants from me.

So no, that is not what is going on. I was thinking I could explain to her some things on Monday, but I thought it would be cool if I said it in Japanese. But to do so, I would have to translate to Japanese and figure out if I'm saying it right, so maybe not.

what's wrong with you

tl;dr. But I'll agree, you are a retard.

At 2/7/09 12:44 AM, KillerClam wrote: what's wrong with you

NO U

well, uh. i dont know why you need to focus more on flash and grades..
but hey, i wont judge, thats what YOU want.
the girl is japaneze, and new... possibly shes just fucked, her rents are prolly strict too.
if i were you. i'd go one on one with her, and tell her to talk, and dont be so damn shy.

For the love of God, trust me, she's probably really shy.

I've done it before, and I'm a male. Sometimes people's insecurities get the best of them. You should probably continue being nice. Not only is it the selfless thing to do, caring about her no matter how confused you are, but you're chances are better than if you just shut up.

You're going to have to find a way to make her comfortable around you, which will probably take time, dedication, patience, and genuine interest.

Either that or she doesn't know how to tell you to back off, oooorrrr her parents don't approve or some shit.

Seriously though, you're chances are better if you try.

You should learn Japanese and speak her language. It will impress her.

At 2/7/09 01:03 AM, Judzfell wrote: well, uh. i dont know why you need to focus more on flash and grades..
but hey, i wont judge, thats what YOU want.

And THAT's the beauty of life.

the girl is japaneze, and new... possibly shes just fucked, her rents are prolly strict too.

She didn't just recently move to America, so I doubt it.

if i were you. i'd go one on one with her, and tell her to talk,

Tried it actually, maybe I should try harder.

and dont be so damn shy.

Never said I was. I've managed to overcome shyness and can say anything to anybody if I wanted. Maybe not to that extent, but close.

At 2/7/09 01:07 AM, Permanent wrote: For the love of God, trust me, she's probably really shy.

I've done it before, and I'm a male.

Hmm...really? Can you say what exactly you did? Or is that something you'd rather not say as you consider it embarassing? This I would understand.

Sometimes people's insecurities get the best of them.

Alright, I'm listening now.

You should probably continue being nice. Not only is it the selfless thing to do, caring about her no matter how confused you are, but you're chances are better than if you just shut up.

I guess, but I don't exactly know how to be "nice". Just not something I formally learned. I'm not some kind of asswipe around people, I just never intentionally focus on getting on their good side.

You're going to have to find a way to make her comfortable around you, which will probably take time, dedication, patience, and genuine interest.

You're making sense, I'm just having trouble on the "how" when it comes to this.

Either that or she doesn't know how to tell you to back off, oooorrrr her parents don't approve or some shit.

If her parents one day told her to never speak to a guy until she's 18 or some bullshit like that, I'm going to be really pissed.

Seriously though, you're chances are better if you try.

Fine, you've inspired me. Care to spare a bit more help with the problems mentioned above in this post?

At 2/7/09 12:43 AM, Gustavos wrote:
Aww, but everybody's either a slut or somebody I reeeaaally don't want to even stand near. Yeah, there are other nice girls out there, but when a Japanese girl comes in as a new student one day (remember how I always like the Japanese these days), it's a bit more like Luck saying "Gustavos, I'm going to take a break from pissing you off and throw you a chewed up bone". And I am one desperate dog who will always go after any opportunity that slaps me across the face.

You're not the only one who has an ethnicity fetish. I like black girls, I've never fucked anything else. But there's ways of seeking out what you want. Although, since you're still in high school,, you may not have access to them just yet.

At 2/7/09 09:47 AM, Armake21truth wrote:

At 2/7/09 12:43 AM, Gustavos wrote:
Aww, but everybody's either a slut or somebody I reeeaaally don't want to even stand near. Yeah, there are other nice girls out there, but when a Japanese girl comes in as a new student one day (remember how I always like the Japanese these days), it's a bit more like Luck saying "Gustavos, I'm going to take a break from pissing you off and throw you a chewed up bone". And I am one desperate dog who will always go after any opportunity that slaps me across the face.

You're not the only one who has an ethnicity fetish.

...ugh, I won't argue with you. But not too serious of a fetish. I hate fetishes, and my interests in girls aren't limited to Asians if that's what you're thinking.

I like black girls, I've never fucked anything else. But there's ways of seeking out what you want. Although, since you're still in high school,, you may not have access to them just yet.

Well, what? Were you going to suggest dating sites or something? And to make matters here even more annoying, I'm an eighth grader.

LOL yeah in 8th grade I wouldn't worry about it if you can't find a date now. If anything, now's the time to make mistakes so that you can learn and refine your game.

Dating sites? Well that's one thing, but there's plenty of others such as bars and other places you can go, but definitely not till you're older.

...
How do you get held back in kindergarten?
There was a kid in my class when I was in kindergarten who got held back...
but I didn't know why. All you do is play and nap!

Maybe she just can't speak English very well,so she tries not to say much.

Also,you may seem intimidating to her,try to fix that somehow.

At 2/7/09 01:57 PM, Donzy wrote: ...
How do you get held back in kindergarten?
There was a kid in my class when I was in kindergarten who got held back...
but I didn't know why. All you do is play and nap!

At the time with the school I had to go to, they gave a test to all the kids who will go into first grade. It's a basic test if they know how to speak and other basic actions and info (they wouldn't want kids that shit themselves in class because they hadn't been trained). It was a private Catholic School. And I'm pretty glad I got out of there actually. I failed the test because my big sister pissed me off somehow before it and I didn't cooperate with the girl giving the test. I was quite the sensitive crybaby.

At 2/7/09 01:52 PM, Armake21truth wrote: LOL yeah in 8th grade I wouldn't worry about it if you can't find a date now. If anything, now's the time to make mistakes so that you can learn and refine your game.

I've always been under the impression that I should avoid relationships altogether for a few years. But screwing up now so I can screw up less as an adult is a better plan. I can try it, but I'd rather not these days.

Dating sites? Well that's one thing, but there's plenty of others such as bars and other places you can go, but definitely not till you're older.

Aren't bars the bad place to find women?

Maybe she's just shy, or just doesn't like to talk much.

At 2/7/09 01:20 AM, Gustavos wrote:

At 2/7/09 01:07 AM, Permanent wrote: For the love of God, trust me, she's probably really shy.

I've done it before, and I'm a male.

Hmm...really? Can you say what exactly you did? Or is that something you'd rather not say as you consider it embarassing? This I would understand.

The whole avoidance thing, though I had my reasons and she may have hers.

Sometimes people's insecurities get the best of them.

Alright, I'm listening now.

You should probably continue being nice. Not only is it the selfless thing to do, caring about her no matter how confused you are, but you're chances are better than if you just shut up.

I guess, but I don't exactly know how to be "nice". Just not something I formally learned. I'm not some kind of asswipe around people, I just never intentionally focus on getting on their good side.

That's the point, don't be a neutral person in her life(for example, a friend), but be a positive aspect of her life. When she thinks of you, you want her to associate good things with you. Which means making her feel good about you and herself. Humor helps in this regard. Also approach her more often, let her know that you do care about her to some extent. People like people who like them.

You're going to have to find a way to make her comfortable around you, which will probably take time, dedication, patience, and genuine interest.

You're making sense, I'm just having trouble on the "how" when it comes to this.

Compliments(do be too excessive or too conservative with them, and they must make sense), being more approachable which means trying not to be aggressive(still show some form of dominance though, don't want her thinking you won't stand up for her) or neurotic around her, and just being a generally pleasant person to be around(remember positive, not neutral).

Either that or she doesn't know how to tell you to back off, oooorrrr her parents don't approve or some shit.

If her parents one day told her to never speak to a guy until she's 18 or some bullshit like that, I'm going to be really pissed.

If that's the case, don't just completely shut her out after that, it'll make it seem like you just wanted to use her.

Seriously though, you're chances are better if you try.

Fine, you've inspired me. Care to spare a bit more help with the problems mentioned above in this post?

I've outlined important things, however there are some major points I should mention. First and foremost, get used to the idea that she just doesn't like you. This will make things easier on yourself if things end out that way and makes relieves some of the pressure when it comes to getting closer to her. Second is, that you're going to have to really try and go out on a limb and move out of your comfort zone, be more open, that's what relationships are about.

If I forgot to mention anything I'll add it on as soon as I remember.

If there's anything else you need just let me know, I'll be glad to help

A great way to get rid of shyness in a girl is to hang out with her lots.

And by that I mean to rape her.

Then try to approach her in a more indirect way, like on MSN or something.
Then you'll see if she's really shy or just being reluctant.

If she's shy, she would chat openly on MSN with you, but then be all quiet at school, that's what I think at least.

At 2/7/09 04:04 PM, Permanent wrote:
The whole avoidance thing, though I had my reasons and she may have hers.

Oh, so you avoided her which failed the potential relationship? And you regret doing that and just don't want people to make the same mistake?

That's the point, don't be a neutral person in her life(for example, a friend), but be a positive aspect of her life. When she thinks of you, you want her to associate good things with you. Which means making her feel good about you and herself. Humor helps in this regard. Also approach her more often, let her know that you do care about her to some extent. People like people who like them.

Nuetral=bad. Got it. The way I think of it, is that I need to be a positive aspect like you said. Perhaps somebody she would look forward to seeing each day and not just another person in her life. I don't often look forward to seeing my friends, they're just there, it would be nice to have somebody like that in life.

I have made her laugh numerous times, but the stuff I said is still shit.

Compliments(do be too excessive or too conservative with them, and they must make sense), being more approachable which means trying not to be aggressive(still show some form of dominance though, don't want her thinking you won't stand up for her) or neurotic around her, and just being a generally pleasant person to be around(remember positive, not neutral).

Positive=good. Got it.

If that's the case, don't just completely shut her out after that, it'll make it seem like you just wanted to use her.

That was practically a joke. And I pray that they don't do that. And how can a guy use a girl? Of course we can use them for easy sex in this world, but what the hell else is there? The girls would easily take advantage of us, because we wouldn't be able to notice too well.

I've outlined important things, however there are some major points I should mention. First and foremost, get used to the idea that she just doesn't like you.

So I won't get overconfident of myself and start doing things half assed. I see.

This will make things easier on yourself if things end out that way and makes relieves some of the pressure when it comes to getting closer to her. Second is, that you're going to have to really try and go out on a limb and move out of your comfort zone, be more open, that's what relationships are about.

Think outside the box, and be more serious about all this. I can try.

If I forgot to mention anything I'll add it on as soon as I remember.

If there's anything else you need just let me know, I'll be glad to help

Just one last thing before you leave on your SUPER FUCKING AWESOME trip to the moon. What are your thoughts on asking stuff about her life? I know she doesn't have pets and has two younger brothers, learned her birthday is in May, and she came to America three or four years ago (forgot which). What else can I ask without making her feel uncomfortable in the slightest? I think I already came close to crossing the first line.

Also, I just remembered that hello in Japanese is "Konnichiwa" (I think that's the spelling, but what counts is that I know how to say it.). I think I should start conversations with that simply because it's fun to say and a lot of novelty to it.

At 2/7/09 04:54 PM, DJJ-asshole wrote: Then try to approach her in a more indirect way, like on MSN or something.
Then you'll see if she's really shy or just being reluctant.

If she's shy, she would chat openly on MSN with you, but then be all quiet at school, that's what I think at least.

I don't even think she even goes on the internet for anything. It would be cool to talk to her by not actually talking though. It would be badass if she had a Newgrounds account. Plus, it's easier to say what you mean by writing or typing your words. You also won't screw up as you can double check your post before you actually post.

sorry gustavos, never ment to call you shy, just this japaneze girl.
basicly, you gotta get her to be comfortable with you, and even then. it might not be in her character to really talk. people are just quiet

At 2/7/09 05:03 PM, Gustavos wrote:

At 2/7/09 04:04 PM, Permanent wrote:
The whole avoidance thing, though I had my reasons and she may have hers.

Oh, so you avoided her which failed the potential relationship? And you regret doing that and just don't want people to make the same mistake?

Sorta kinda, like I said, I had my reasons.

That's the point, don't be a neutral person in her life(for example, a friend), but be a positive aspect of her life. When she thinks of you, you want her to associate good things with you. Which means making her feel good about you and herself. Humor helps in this regard. Also approach her more often, let her know that you do care about her to some extent. People like people who like them.

Nuetral=bad. Got it. The way I think of it, is that I need to be a positive aspect like you said. Perhaps somebody she would look forward to seeing each day and not just another person in her life. I don't often look forward to seeing my friends, they're just there, it would be nice to have somebody like that in life.

There you go, you've got the right idea.

I have made her laugh numerous times, but the stuff I said is still shit.

Don't worry keep trying, what's more important is what she thinks of it.

Compliments(do be too excessive or too conservative with them, and they must make sense), being more approachable which means trying not to be aggressive(still show some form of dominance though, don't want her thinking you won't stand up for her) or neurotic around her, and just being a generally pleasant person to be around(remember positive, not neutral).

Positive=good. Got it.

Yes, but you have to balance things out, you don't want to be overbearing. Positive is definitely important, but you're going to have to do your homework. Figure out whether she needs her space sometimes or not.

If that's the case, don't just completely shut her out after that, it'll make it seem like you just wanted to use her.

That was practically a joke. And I pray that they don't do that. And how can a guy use a girl? Of course we can use them for easy sex in this world, but what the hell else is there? The girls would easily take advantage of us, because we wouldn't be able to notice too well.

I noticed, but I figured it was important to point out. I meant the easy sex thing. Obviously you have to move on, but don't black her out completely.

I've outlined important things, however there are some major points I should mention. First and foremost, get used to the idea that she just doesn't like you.

So I won't get overconfident of myself and start doing things half assed. I see.

Well, moreso for the reasons stated below.

This will make things easier on yourself if things end out that way and makes relieves some of the pressure when it comes to getting closer to her. Second is, that you're going to have to really try and go out on a limb and move out of your comfort zone, be more open, that's what relationships are about.

Think outside the box, and be more serious about all this. I can try.

Not necessarily serious, but give it alot of thought,

If I forgot to mention anything I'll add it on as soon as I remember.

If there's anything else you need just let me know, I'll be glad to help

Just one last thing before you leave on your SUPER FUCKING AWESOME trip to the moon. What are your thoughts on asking stuff about her life? I know she doesn't have pets and has two younger brothers, learned her birthday is in May, and she came to America three or four years ago (forgot which). What else can I ask without making her feel uncomfortable in the slightest? I think I already came close to crossing the first line.

Also, I just remembered that hello in Japanese is "Konnichiwa" (I think that's the spelling, but what counts is that I know how to say it.). I think I should start conversations with that simply because it's fun to say and a lot of novelty to it.

Don't try to intrude, just let her tell you. Ask open-ended questions like "So, how was it back in Japan?" or w/e, that way it doesn't seem like you're prying into her personal space. Telling her things about your life is an easy way to get her to open up about hers, trust me on that one. Don't get too personal with what you tell her though, be casual, don't spill your guts out yet.

You can also use questions about her life as a way to gauge her interest in you. The more she opens up about herself, the more she trusts you. The fact that you don't remember when she moved can be used to your advantage too. Let's say for whatever reason you guys are talking about her move over or anything closely related, bring it up. It'll make you seem interested and that you want to know stuff about her.

The whole 'Konnichiwa" thing can come of as either cute, or lame. Test it out anyway, if she doesn't like it, find something new. If you can't tell whether or not she likes it, then continue until you get a response that let's you know how she feels about it. If she laughs be careful, because that can mean either or.

And what do you mean by "crossing the first line"?

At 2/7/09 05:43 PM, Permanent wrote:
Sorta kinda, like I said, I had my reasons.

Good enough.

I have made her laugh numerous times, but the stuff I said is still shit.

Don't worry keep trying, what's more important is what she thinks of it.


Yes, but you have to balance things out, you don't want to be overbearing. Positive is definitely important, but you're going to have to do your homework.

Do my homework...hypothetically? You mean use my common sense to learn how she'd respond to this or that.

I meant the easy sex thing. Obviously you have to move on, but don't black her out completely.

I think you've lost me.

Not necessarily serious, but give it alot of thought,

Alright.

Don't try to intrude, just let her tell you. Ask open-ended questions like "So, how was it back in Japan?" or w/e, that way it doesn't seem like you're prying into her personal space. Telling her things about your life is an easy way to get her to open up about hers, trust me on that one. Don't get too personal with what you tell her though, be casual, don't spill your guts out yet.

You can also use questions about her life as a way to gauge her interest in you. The more she opens up about herself, the more she trusts you. The fact that you don't remember when she moved can be used to your advantage too. Let's say for whatever reason you guys are talking about her move over or anything closely related, bring it up. It'll make you seem interested and that you want to know stuff about her.

Alright, thanks for all the info.

The whole 'Konnichiwa" thing can come of as either cute, or lame. Test it out anyway, if she doesn't like it, find something new. If you can't tell whether or not she likes it, then continue until you get a response that let's you know how she feels about it. If she laughs be careful, because that can mean either or.

Right, I'll keep my eyes out for any signs.

And what do you mean by "crossing the first line"?

A dumb expression I made up. You know the expression "You crossed the line". Well this one was supposed to mean crossing a line before then which is close to it.

In short, I have probably come close to the "line" (this line being the kind in the original expression) with what I have already said.

Maybe she is autistic.....

So she follows you around?