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At 2/5/09 03:03 PM, Conspiracy3 wrote: but it is a waste of time to type on an Iphone when a keyboard is available.

Thanks Captain Obvious!

What if Wade's at a diner right now?

At 2/5/09 02:48 PM, Brick-top wrote: I disagree also. I read a lot of reviews on phones and even phones that aren't comparable are known as the Iphone killer. Google Iphone killer you'll get countless results on many many different phone types, sizes, costs etc.

Okay. Most of those phones are very similar to the iPhone. And all people want nowadays are phones that are better than what they are used to.

The Iphone didn't set a bar when you think about it no phone does (or at least sets a very blurry bar) it's merely a very popular phone the reasons why I don't know because I dislike the entire touch screen range.

If the iPhone didn't set a standard then why are many phones competing with it? Did you see the marketing for Sprint's Instinct? On all of the tests it was just showing how it matched up compared to the iPhone. It was trying to be better than it. To outdo it. To, dare I say, jump the BAR of what we consider the norm for phones today.

At 2/5/09 02:56 PM, newnerdproductionsTM wrote:

At 2/5/09 02:38 PM, WadeFulp wrote: I'm sure there will be other phones that compete with the iPhone as far as technology, but the app store is what really makes the iPhone cool and the apps are still fairly early in their development.

YAY! Intelligence has struck down the mac bashers yet again.

Ugh. Everybody with a Mac is incapable of admitting faults. Because if you show any signs of weakness and regret over your insanely overpriced purchase then maybe you might feel like you made the wrong decision? I don't think you are at liberty to admit your own faults either. The app store is alright. But, it also has flaws. iTunes is god awful. You can only sync data to a portable device through ONE specific program? And why does ONE song cost and entire dollar? I can listen to songs for free on my fucking radio.

Also... tell those faggots to stop trying to install their web browser on my computer.

I don't want you faggot ass shit today... i don't want it tomorrow... I don't want it ever. Please, for the love of all that's good in the world put a "Don't ask again" button on your fucking auto-update pop up shit you stupid fucks.

Fuck Bonjour!

Fuck apple, now im going to start comparing my phone to the Palm Pre!

At 2/5/09 04:17 PM, Eggys wrote: Dammit, Linux, we need you now!

Linux suuuucks.

The reason I don't buy Apple goods because of the reasons stated. A different firm will offer a superior product to Apple at a lower price. Take the iPod for example, you could buy Zune, Sony and not have to bother with the iTunes shit.

At 2/5/09 03:59 PM, GiantDouche wrote: Okay. Most of those phones are very similar to the iPhone. And all people want nowadays are phones that are better than what they are used to.

For the exception of the hardware and software. Usually they either have similar size or appearence. Generally the specifications are highly diverse.

Also not everyone. I don't mind if my standards are lower than what I expected as long as it works.

If the iPhone didn't set a standard then why are many phones competing with it?

Because it's shiny, well known and popular. Also the popularity with the Ipod it's going to encourage people to get the Iphone even though it has several downsides like the camera.

At 2/5/09 01:41 PM, GiantDouche wrote: Hey, but at least it fits inside a fucking envelope.

a fucking envolope won't protect my laptop when i'm carrying it around places

At 2/5/09 05:26 PM, WadeFulp wrote:

At 2/5/09 03:03 PM, Conspiracy3 wrote:

At 2/5/09 03:00 PM, Zerok wrote:

At 2/5/09 02:58 PM, CanadianSnowman wrote: You'd think someone wouldn't consider such a waste of time as a point of pride, but ok...

If you consider "a few seconds" to be a waste of time, then you need to reevaluate your lifestyle.

Typing on an Iphone takes longer than typing on an ordinary keyboard. That's not a reason the Iphone is bad, because typing on handhelds always takes longer, but it is a waste of time to type on an Iphone when a keyboard is available.

If you missed my point, it was that I can get on Newgrounds with my iPhone and post on the forums with ease. Once you get used to the iPhone's touch keyboard it's actually pretty fast. I can probably type faster on my iPhone than many people can type on a regular keyboard.

I'm not saying that it won't be semi-fast when you get used to it. I'm saying that it is slower than an ordinary keyboard. My question for you is do you type faster on the Iphone or a regular keyboard? Regardless of that, there are still other pieces of hardware and other portable devices that do the same thing and arguably do it better. The future of hand held electronics that I see is almost like a Swiss-army knife. You will have multiple parts of a keyboard/touch screen flip out to make something easy to type on yet still easily portable.

At 2/5/09 02:54 PM, WadeFulp wrote: The iPhone rules. I'm typing this from my iPhone.

iPhone is the only thing apple has made that didn't suck I give you that :)
Still, most other things mac made is expensive and sometimes even annoying to use

You gotta admit though that they look cool, and the app store was a great idea.

Yea, man. The thing you have to admire about Apple is that they aren't gearing things toward anything other than EASE OF USE.

I've got an iPhone, it's got the level capability Wade mentioned. I've got an app that allows me to tune my guitar (or many other instruments) using the built in microphone to detect pitch.

Even without the GPS (since I'm on a 1.0 iPhone with Edge and no GPS... jokes on you guys, actually. I pay 10 bucks less every month for my unlimited data plan with little functionality loss, when the time comes for an upgrade in 2+ years I'll have spent less overall) it's still a sweet as hell phone. I'm no Mac fan either, it's just that this is the best option for a phone. Mac didn't waste time dumbing down their OS to fit on shitty hardware back when it was fashionable, they waited for hardware to catch up to the capabilities of a full operating system.

All I'm wishing for at the moment is that Trillian Astra's finally released. An IM client that says "fuck you" to others' way of doing things and uses the unlimited data to send and receive messages instead of overpriced texting plans will be win.

By the way, don't consider the limitations placed on the hardware by AT&T or Apple obstacles. I unlocked my phone the day after I bought it and people are constantly staying on top of different ways to take advantage of the things Apple or AT&T don't want you taking advantage of. I had cool apps like the ones you find in the app store BEFORE there was an app store. It's just gonna get cooler and cooler as data gets cheaper. Pretty soon people will ONLY need to buy data plans on phones because VOIP will replace standardized cellular calling. Apps will come out that exploit the growing number of wifi enabled cities so that you can call people within the city using networking technology instead of provider's cell towers, etc. It'll be just like what happened with landlines ie: Vonage, Skype, etc.

At 2/5/09 06:10 PM, WadeFulp wrote: Evark, the GPS is pretty darn awesome though. One of my favorite features :) Great for finding places of interest, stores, etc, if you're in an area you're not familiar with. Great for geocaching, etc.

Yea, geocaching is really the number-one reason why I lament not waiting to get on board the iPhone train.

Also as far as the camera not being that great, it's not wonderful, but it's not that bad if you know what you're doing:

I can't say I know what I'm doing, but I've got some pretty magnificent iPhone pictures as well as even older ones from my prior camera phone (at 1.3 instead of 2.0 megapixels) Seems natural lighting is the most important aspect, though that magnifying glass trick is neat, I'll have to remember that.

http://twitpic.com/1cgu7
http://twitpic.com/1bop4
http://twitpic.com/ilmz

Those are sweet.

Ex:

And since I don't have a twitter I'm gonna spam up this topic just a little further, here's one I took of this GREAT tree that looked like it was burning this past autumn.

For those people claiming that Steve Jobs is retarded, keep in mind, he survived Pancreatic cancer. That's some tough shit there.

I do have this to say about the iPhone: It's the only cell phone my band teacher will allow in class, because it now has a musical tuner and metronome app.

The App store is simply amazing...

You got all of this off of G4 tech tv, and Apple hasn't patented multi touch specifically(Its quite obvious that palm did first), they just have a shitload of small patents that patent very specific things so it adds up to a big effect.

At 2/5/09 06:10 PM, WadeFulp wrote: Also as far as the camera not being that great, it's not wonderful, but it's not that bad if you know what you're doing:

Compared to other alternatives it's awful especially by todays standards. Zoom in on those pictures and you'll quickly find very grainy details. My old W800i took better pictures.

At 2/5/09 02:51 PM, Zerok wrote: You're just jealous because Apple's marketing strategy has been more successful than anything you'll ever come close to doing in life.

So how come they still don't control the market?

At 2/5/09 01:28 PM, Igotaname13 wrote: Why I love apple <3

I declare this as the best Macbook summing up

haha

Mac sucks

i dont kno anyone who would want that it so stupid that one guy had to take 45 MINUTES to type an email. real fuckin useful right?

I'm taking a crap as I type this <3 my new ipone still gettng used to it and still need some cool aps. But so far it rules hard.

Now we wait for the Mac fan boy to come in and say, "Windows suck, and so does Bill Gates".

I wouldn't call myself a fanboy but I am typing this from a mac and I am wondering what is so bad about my computer.