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At 1/31/09 01:09 PM, NinjaSalad wrote: Take your findings to the pope! I'm sure he will cast his hat off and stomp on it.

I think the whole; finding bones from x million years ago is proof enough, yet they still say god made the world 2009 years ago lawl.

Actually in Christianity, that was when Jesus was born, not when the world was made. CHECK YOUT FACTS!


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If your going to use math,put it to good use somewhere else

like as a cashier

I can disprove any specific god!

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But guys, tomfulp is the god of newgrounds.

so there is a specific god :D

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At 1/31/09 12:24 PM, That-Is-Bull wrote:
0.999...(repeated) = 1. Most people agree with this, unless they're cuntards.

Proof:
x = 0.999...
10x = 9.999...
10x - x = 9.999... - 0.999...
9x = 9
x = 1
0.999... = 1

this is true.

There's obviously no evidence and no reason at all to believe that if there is a god, he fits a certain religion's description. That's non-debatable, there's just no reason whatsoever to think that God is specific to one religion over another. And since anything is possible, God could literally be anything. And infinite number of things. There's no end to the amount of possible things God could be. That means that there's an infinitely small chance that any one description of God is right - a 0.000...1% chance. So, there's an infinitely big chance that any one description of God is wrong - a 99.999...% chance.

This is not an acceptable part of the proof. There is no infinite amount of things possible. Since there are only finite possibilities, up to equivalence (ie, not assuming that the size of a god matters)
And even if the resulting possibility is neglectable small, the chance of there being a god is the accumulation of every possibility. In the end, there is either you believe in God or you don't. Hence this turns out to be 1/2.

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At 1/31/09 01:09 PM, NinjaSalad wrote: I think the whole; finding bones from x million years ago is proof enough, yet they still say god made the world 2009 years ago lawl.

Do some research before insulting a people, if you don't mind.

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At 1/31/09 01:08 PM, KemCab wrote: So God is above his own rules?

He has to be/ Since he created the rules, then he must've existed before the rules making him free from their influence unless he chooses to be under it.


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even though im cathloc, you have a point there, but you rounded up. Besides, there are hundreds of religions. there is no way of knowing whats really true and what isn't. you believe in what your raised with usually.

if your a buddhist, you follow the teachings of Buddha, whom may I remind you was a real man, and was a wise man. making that religion mostly true besides the gods part, which is unsure of.

if your jewish or christian, if you look into the old testament of the bible, it talks about moses, the story of a jew who free'd his people from egyptian rule, and this story is mentioned both in the bible, and egyptian storys. proving that the fleeing of moses and his people was true. HOW EVER, the plagues moses made with his staff and the help of god can be disproven, with a lucky weather condition. the first plague made a chain reaction leading to the others. so its also uncertain weather or not weather or god " Yahweh " was responsible.

you can't disprove or prove a religion, so you need 1 thing, FAITH. Faith can be called trust, believe, etc. Come on, if there really is nothing, which I don't believe, wouldn't it be best to believe in something?

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Another fault in the proof is that you assume every religion to have the same weight. But some religious are taken more seriously than others. So they take up more probability and might actually contribute a significant factor.

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You guys are right, he didn't disprove God.

He just made the chance of its existence infinitely small.

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Hey, fucktard, .9 repeating is .9 repeating. I'll use your logic in a similar way.

Everybody agrees that gray is basically white, correct? Therefore:
gray = white
dark colors = white + black
White + black = gray
dark colors = white
Light colors = white + little black
white + little black = white
light colors = white
light colors + Dark colors = all colors
light colors + dark colors = white
all colors = white.

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At 1/31/09 01:13 PM, McZero wrote:
At 1/31/09 01:09 PM, NinjaSalad wrote: Take your findings to the pope! I'm sure he will cast his hat off and stomp on it.

I think the whole; finding bones from x million years ago is proof enough, yet they still say god made the world 2009 years ago lawl.
Actually in Christianity, that was when Jesus was born, not when the world was made. CHECK YOUT FACTS!

Meh, noone wants to hear this, but that's never stopped me before. Jesus was actually born in 4 BC, I think according to some event in the bible where God stopped time or something like that a couple thousand years back.

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At 1/31/09 02:05 PM, KemCab wrote:
At 1/31/09 01:59 PM, NeonFlame126 wrote: dark colors = white + black
Last I checked you can make dark colors with any color and black. Your argument only works in a black and white world, in which case all colors are just shades of gray.

So it's impossible to make dark colors with only white and black? All colors are bue, red, and green in different shades, but that is not the point. The point is that if you take something that is a little stretched, stretch it some more, and then again, you have some deep bull shit right there.

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At 1/31/09 01:09 PM, SeaBoundRhino wrote: But is 0.3333333...=1/3 in the first place? Strictly it doesn't. It's just as close as we can get.

No, 0.3 recurring is exactly 1/3. Otherwise we would write it as being approximately equal.
Saying that though, this argument is ridiculous. There are an infinite amount of positive integers, doesn't mean they don't exist. There's an infinite amount of physical forms that the OP himself could have taken, so he obviously doesn't exist.

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I agree. And here's some more math.

1 + 4 = 10 BECAUSE:

1 x 10 = 10
10-4 = 6
6 + 1 + 4 = 11
11 - (4*1) = 7
7 - 1 + 4 = 10

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The Author's name indeed does fit his post, you cannot prove things wrong mathmatically without adding reasoning, and without reasoning there is only madness.

So you therefore are wrong.

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As an atheist, I find it pathetic that you're resorting to stupid ideas rather than wielding superior intellect to convince others to give up the plague of religion.

These kinds of things are as retarded as fundamentalist creationists calling bananas the "atheists worst nightmare" because they're shaped to fit in your hand.

Read the bible, qu'ran, torah, then confront creationists with the bullshit that's inside.

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At 1/31/09 02:27 PM, Archon68 wrote: I agree. And here's some more math.

1 + 4 = 10 BECAUSE:

1 x 10 = 10
10-4 = 6
6 + 1 + 4 = 11
11 - (4*1) = 7
7 - 1 + 4 = 10

I'm lost there.

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There is no possible way to disprove or prove any God.

Therefore you lie.

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At 1/31/09 01:04 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: He provided an inescapable proof that 0.99... = 1.

No, he provided a flawed but widely accepted 'proof'.

All it shows is that people simplify things because they have no true concept of infinity, these simplifications are why current mathematics cannot work on the larger scale, too much simplification leads to this kind of nonsense.


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Then how does are body do things perfectly?

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At 1/31/09 02:34 PM, Fyndir wrote:
All it shows is that people simplify things because they have no true concept of infinity, these simplifications are why current mathematics cannot work on the larger scale, too much simplification leads to this kind of nonsense.

The equality is sound.
Like someone said 1/3=0.3333333
so 3*1/3=0.9999999...=1
This has not so much to do with approximation, just with notation of numbers.

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At 1/31/09 02:35 PM, monkey wrote: Then how does are body do things perfectly?

The funny thing about this argument is that it's used by both sides of the fight.

Creationists claim that it had to be designed by something/someone because it's so perfect and surely something random doesn't just "happen".

Evolutionists say that something can only work so well after extensive "beta testing" if you will, eliminating the species that failed to adapt, and those who developed superior bodies and minds became the head honchos of the animal kingdom.

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At 1/31/09 02:33 PM, RubberTrucky wrote:
At 1/31/09 02:27 PM, Archon68 wrote: I agree. And here's some more math.

1 + 4 = 10 BECAUSE:

1 x 10 = 10
10-4 = 6
6 + 1 + 4 = 11
11 - (4*1) = 7
7 - 1 + 4 = 10
I'm lost there.

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If there were a way to prove or disprove the existence of any specific god through math, it's a safe bet it would've been done a long time ago.

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At 1/31/09 02:34 PM, Fyndir wrote: All it shows is that people simplify things because they have no true concept of infinity, these simplifications are why current mathematics cannot work on the larger scale, too much simplification leads to this kind of nonsense.

On what basis is that flawed?

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And like that, your "proof" is dismantled.

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At 1/31/09 12:24 PM, That-Is-Bull wrote: Therefore, there is a 100% chance that Christianity is wrong. :D

I can only pray for your soul now. You must make the choice yourself to give up this path of madness and heresy and join Christianity, as all souls must if they hope to get to Heaven.


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This isn't an entirely serious thread btw. I just thought of it yesterday, and figured it would piss a few people off and make a few people laugh. You can disprove everything using ".999... = 1." Religion is ridiculous enough to not need to be proven wrong anyway.

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At 1/31/09 12:32 PM, Lare wrote: Watch out, catholic commandos are coming!

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