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At 4/15/09 03:48 PM, Fuoco wrote: Gay marriage...
If they want to live together that's fine by me. I just don't understand when they want a priest to marry them in a church full of people with very different views on the subject.

Who says they have to be married through a church that doesn't want to marry gays, there are churches that do, and they don't have to get married through a church, just like atheist

Let's just assume they allow them to marry. What's next? Since they cannot procreate like normal human beings

What exactly makes someone "normal"

There's no way to tell, but if my parents were gay I'd probably be a traumatized anitsocial fellow for all these moments in the best years of my life of people telling stuff like: "Lol, your parents are gay :D", "What's up, gay boy?", and all those awkward moments of gay people asking me out just because my parents are gay, and therefore I probably am too.

So just because of some intolerant prejudice assholes gays should not be allowed to adopt.

Conclusion: Gay marriage= Hell no. At least not in many decades to come.

Right, so I guess that 4 states all ready having legalizing gay marriage, and D.C. consider legalizing it doesn't say anything

At 4/15/09 04:55 PM, MJTTOMB wrote: I'd just like to make the point that those "traumatic moments" wouldn't be the fault of the parents in any way. They would be the fault of intolerant and ignorant individuals.

Exactly. But still there's no way to prevent that to happen, which is why that shouldn't happen in a few decades at least.

And regardless, homosexuals are allowed to adopt whether they're married or not. And your argument that they should not be able to because of a need for a father/mother figure is a bit off. By that logic, single parents should not be allowed to raise kids.

I did mentioned that too:

At 4/15/09 03:48 PM, Fuoco wrote: ...that may not matter for those raised only by their mother or father, but still is considerable.

But well, it was only to emphasize the traumatic events thing. Let's not take psychology too serious since it can hardly be proven.

At 4/15/09 05:12 PM, LordJaric wrote: Who says they have to be married through a church that doesn't want to marry gays, there are churches that do, and they don't have to get married through a church, just like atheist

That's perfect then! I was just complaining about those complaining about the catholic church not wanting to marry them.

What exactly makes someone "normal"

Ahh ignore that, I'm usually not that big of a prick XD. I just enjoy reactions.

So just because of some intolerant prejudice assholes gays should not be allowed to adopt.

Yup. Think of the children.

Right, so I guess that 4 states all ready having legalizing gay marriage, and D.C. consider legalizing it doesn't say anything.

My opinion doesn't influence those 4 states and D.C. Everyone is entitled to have one, don't we? I never said that my words are the law, it's only my opinion.

At 4/15/09 04:40 PM, SolInvictus wrote: what kind of fucked up people invite others who are opposed to said couple's union to their wedding?

None I guess! Check the reply above.

damn those unwanted kids! who cares if they can't be given a loving home, i won't let what a man and a woman have made fall into the hands of dirty homosexuals.

Well, I'll give you that. Some homeless kids for example can't possibly do any worse.

there also happen to be many ways by which homosexuals can reproduce;
1. since most homosexuals are healthy individuals, surrogate mothers/fathers are one way of solving the problem.
2. modern medicine also allows for the use of other cells to replace either sperm or eggs, resulting in a child that is solely theirs.

I'm not that stupid, I never said they lacked sexual organs to reproduce. I mean among them only, not by a third man/woman.

3. adoption once again. if infertile heterosexuals can adopt, why not a homosexual couple?

Because the couple isn't the subject here, it's the kids and how they'll grow.

given the varied family structures in different human cultures, the concept of a singular, correct, family construct is ludicrous.

Which is why I said I wasn't sure about it. But still, I wasn't exactly refering to every single family structure of all ethnics. We all grow in a certain society and we suffer it's repercussions we like it or not.

you sure your current parental status isn't the cause of what seem to be some severe logical deficiencies?

I'm sure that makes you feel smart.

Or maybe not, it's such an old insult to make any effect on one's ego.

I don't think churches should be forced to marry them, but similarly, i don't think churches should be able to lobby against them being married by state officials.

I should point out that institution of marriage the puritans and homophobes hold so dear has been about love for just over 100 years. I should also point out the fact that this same exact argument was one made by the same exact people who condemned interracial marriage, women getting the right to vote and justified slavery. So much talk about "Preserving the sanctity of marriage" there is absolutely nothing worse than sanctimony! What then do they say to all of those Gay couples is Massachusetts and Vermont who have filed for divorce? "We must now preserve the sanctity of Divorce!" Right? Anyone putting out any ban on Gay marriage should be reminded of this

"We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal that they are endowed by their creator certain unalienable rights. Among these are Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness"

That is exactly what America was founded on. That is what Congress, The House, The Senate and The President are sworn to uphold. That is what every American soldier has died for.

At 4/15/09 09:16 PM, MJTTOMB wrote: I don't think churches should be forced to marry them, but similarly, i don't think churches should be able to lobby against them being married by state officials.

I agree. Gay marriage should be legal in EVERY state, but the choice should be left up to the church.

People will claim homosexuality is not natural and then claim they're following the rules made by a supernatural being.

Pot calling kettle black?

At 4/29/09 04:07 AM, Iron-Claw wrote: "We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal that they are endowed by their creator certain unalienable rights. Among these are Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness"

I agree with you, 100%. However, it may be obvious that there is nothing "self-evident" about the suggestion that "all men are created". Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness can do without the religious motivation.

At 4/29/09 09:43 AM, Brick-top wrote: People will claim homosexuality is not natural...

Ah yes, that old argument. As it turns out, homosexuality is quite widespread throughout the animal kingdom. There are quite a few explanations for this behaviour, it might serve an important role in social structures, or it might simply be so that animals are fucking the hell out of eachother just because it feels nice and is prettty fucking funny. Anyhow, my point is that although homosexuality among other animals than the Homo Sapiens Sapiens might be difficult to explain, it certainly isn´t "rare" or "non-existent" as some people would have you believe.

Also, if homosexuality is so widespread, how can such behaviour cause harm? If homosexuality were to pose a threat to the survival of a species, wouldn´t homosexual relationships eventually be eliminated via evolution? ("survival of the fitness boys!" - Trailer Park Boys reference for those of you who didn´t catch that one)

I even went through the trouble to find a couple of sources this time I´m building an argument, am I not the all-knowing scholar now hmm?

SOURCE 1
SOURCE 2
SOURCE 3
Guess what, it´s a fucking wikipedia article. And it contains evan moar SOARZES!!!

At 4/29/09 03:18 PM, zephiran wrote:

At 4/29/09 09:43 AM, Brick-top wrote: People will claim homosexuality is not natural...

Ah yes, that old argument. As it turns out, homosexuality is quite widespread...

Read the post carefully, darling.
He's not disputing that some animals don't couple up in same pairs.

A marriage is a holy and religous union between a man and a woman.

I believe gays should have the right to a legal union, but shouldn't have one in a chapel with a preist and such.

Give Tax breaks to any that plan to raise a child, whether through birth or adoption.

This is

EXACTLY how i feel.

At 4/29/09 03:32 PM, fli wrote: Read the post carefully, darling.
He's not disputing that some animals don't couple up in same pairs.

Hence the reason why he said it in the third person perspective and he also attempted to make it very clear without any generalising involved.

Welcome to operation mind fuck.

When it comes to rights, things will always slide one way or another. If we legalize gay marrage, it will slide to allowing even greater personal freedom and happyness. If we continue to keep it illegal, then we will, in time, end up like the middle east, stoneing homosexuals to death in the streets.

Wow, what a hard choice.

At 4/29/09 03:57 PM, MetalSlimeHunt wrote: Wow, what a hard choice.

Slippery slope, etc.

At 4/29/09 03:37 PM, Brick-top wrote:

At 4/29/09 03:32 PM, fli wrote: Read the post carefully, darling.
He's not disputing that some animals don't couple up in same pairs.

Yeah, I know. I had just wanted to put that argument forth for a looooooong time, but when it finally came out, there was that HURRRRRRRRRR - feeling about it. In no way was I trying to attack B-T though.

I may be new, but hey, even young dinos know not to fuck with an old (and potentially grumpy)

T- rex.

Hence the reason why he said it in the third person perspective and he also attempted to make it very clear without any generalising involved.

It WAS a lot longer and a lot more scarier before I decided to restrain myself and remove "fuck", "fucking", "dickwads", "cockmongers", "christfags" and most of the rant and HURRR from the majority of my sentences.

Welcome to operation mind fuck.

Read my job description on my profile page.

"mindupfucker" lol

1. Homosexuality is not natural. If it was, two guys would be able to get each other preggers.

2. There should be a cure for it and

3. If no cure found then fucking kill them and put them back in their closet. Fuck free love of the 60's, this liberal hippy shit needs to end.

At 4/30/09 12:21 PM, jAk88 wrote: 1. Homosexuality is not natural. If it was, two guys would be able to get each other preggers.

You just redefined "natural". Congratulations, you must be some sort of genius. Have you taken the time to read this thread through? No, of course not, you are a genius, you don´t need other people to tell you their opinions or even what they call "facts".

2. There should be a cure for it and

Did you know that a vast amount of animals live in same-sex relationships, but that the Homo Sapiens Sapiens is the only animal that displays homophobia?

3. If no cure found then fucking kill them and put them back in their closet. Fuck free love of the 60's, this liberal hippy shit needs to end.

I seriously don´t know whether to go HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR or "obvious troll is obvious". Either way, you are a fucking close-minded jerk that needs to get out there, live life, and get some smarts. Then come back, and instead of spouting out an uninformed, overly emotional and quite frankly moronic opinion, try to see this from the "other" side. Fags are humans too. Imagine a place where the only way for a species to produce offspring is to mate with a partner of the same sex, but that after a while, it becomes more and more evident that a sizeable portion of the population prefers the company of the other gender. Now imagine that another part of the population says "No, this is not okay, it is not natural, you can´t produce offspring, thus you should not even be allowed to try! You are eroding our social structure, our traditions! You pose a threat to the survival of our species! If you do not cease this in an instant, we will kill you for the sake of our own survival!"
Do you notice a pattern here? If not, fuck off, go suck a 12 gauge or something. I´m getting fucking tired of this shit.

First off, Marriage is and has always been a holy sacrament. All Abrahamic religions rely on marriage. Sure there are other aspects of marriages outside of those religions, but they weren't dealt with or held out in the same way. The modern way we view, and go through marriage is the religious way. To go through such a process committing a giant sin of the followers is a big mockery and a spit in the face to those of faith.

Secondly, Gay people shouldn't be adopting children. In a world where there still are homophobes and Anti-gay people, it is completely irresponsible to force a child to have to bear with the stress and ridicule you chose to through with and bear.

Lastly, I hate how people treat homosexuality as if they are a race or a people. They are Regular people with fetishes. Just like I like small boobs, some like lolis, incest and shemales they like their own sex. To say eww to incest and then fight for homosexual rights is just down right hypocritical. Incestual couples are in love with each other, can have a surrogate healthy baby, and lead a happy life. So why not fight for incestual rights? There is a double standard going on here, and people don't see it. If Gays want to get married, fine big woop, but stop acting like you are an oppressed people.

YOU ARE NOT AN OPPRESSED PEOPLE.

The actions you do are seen as disgusting to others, hence why they do shit to you. Just like you'd tell a person who masturbated to feces that he is a disgusting fuck, others feel the same. People get killed for their turn ons all the time, rape, pedophilia, corpophilia, necrophilia, and so forth. Its not just one specific sexuality, is all sexualities that are just socially displeasing.

At 4/30/09 12:21 PM, jAk88 wrote: Monkey nuts says "My Banana"

If you say you're a devout believer you would've proven my point which is eloquently simple and apparently correct.

At 4/30/09 06:14 PM, Phratt wrote: First off, Marriage is and has always been a holy sacrament.

Marriage is now a civil contract, only religious in history.

All Abrahamic religions rely on marriage. Sure there are other aspects of marriages outside of those religions, but they weren't dealt with or held out in the same way. The modern way we view, and go through marriage is the religious way.

See above.

To go through such a process committing a giant sin of the followers is a big mockery and a spit in the face to those of faith.

An important part of freedom is that you will see other people offending everything you belive in.

Secondly, Gay people shouldn't be adopting children. In a world where there still are homophobes and Anti-gay people, it is completely irresponsible to force a child to have to bear with the stress and ridicule you chose to through with and bear.

Like You? That adoption argument was used about 30-40 years ago in refrence to cross-racial adoption. Besides, no matter how respetable a child is, the pricks who populate the world of children will find a way to toture them.

Lastly, I hate how people treat homosexuality as if they are a race or a people.

Sexuality, as a trait that cannot be controlled, is treated in the same way as other traits that you do not control. Like a race or people.

They are Regular people with fetishes.

A fetish is a small defining trait within your sexuality. Homosexuality is a entire sexuality itself, and any gay fetishes fall within it.

Just like I like small boobs

I don't like you.

, some like lolis,

What is that? I am not going to Google it because I know exactly what will happen, so just tell me.

incest

To Each their own, I guess.

and shemales

That's a low blow.

they like their own sex. To say eww to incest and then fight for homosexual rights is just down right hypocritical.

Just because you don't like something doesn't make it wrong.

Incestual couples are in love with each other, can have a surrogate healthy baby, and lead a happy life. So why not fight for incestual rights?

We should. Granted, direct childbirth shouldn't be allowed (Due to Genetic and Diseginic problems), but adoption and surrigate birth should work out fine.

There is a double standard going on here, and people don't see it. If Gays want to get married, fine big woop, but stop acting like you are an oppressed people.

You just went back on everything you just said.

YOU ARE NOT AN OPPRESSED PEOPLE.

BEING DEINIED RIGHTS (IN THIS CASE MARRIAGE) IS OPPRESSION FOOL. ALSO, CAPS LOCK IS OVER THERE, GO PRESS IT.

The actions you do are seen as disgusting to others, hence why they do shit to you. Just like you'd tell a person who masturbated to feces that he is a disgusting fuck, others feel the same. People get killed for their turn ons all the time, rape, pedophilia, corpophilia, necrophilia, and so forth. Its not just one specific sexuality, is all sexualities that are just socially displeasing.

At 4/30/09 07:40 PM, Brick-top wrote:

At 4/30/09 12:21 PM, jAk88 wrote: Monkey nuts says "My Banana"

If you say you're a devout believer you would've proven my point which is eloquently simple and apparently correct.

Forget that argument, his recent 'delicious' thread is tantalisingly ironic, hypocritical and a very good laugh. However if it not true then jAk88 can be forever branded an attention seeking troll. Either way, making his thread has made him dig a hole, lay it with leaves and forced him to jump in.

I shall allow you people to search for it. You will know when you find it.

At 4/30/09 06:14 PM, Phratt wrote: First off, Marriage is and has always been a holy sacrament.

No it isn't.

All Abrahamic religions rely on marriage.

So do Atheist, buddhist, hindus, ext

Sure there are other aspects of marriages outside of those religions,

Doesn't that counter you previous statement

The modern way we view, and go through marriage is the religious way.

What about athiest, hell my sister got married on the coast of Mexico, and not in a church.

To go through such a process committing a giant sin of the followers is a big mockery and a spit in the face to those of faith.

I have faith, so what does that say about your argument

Secondly, Gay people shouldn't be adopting children. In a world where there still are homophobes and Anti-gay people,

I guess black kids shouldn't have gotten to go to the same schools as white kids then, some got a lot of shit in Little Rock, Arkansas

it is completely irresponsible to force a child to have to bear with the stress and ridicule you chose to through with and bear.

Kids go through a lot of shit in their lifes, there will always be bullys and there victems.

Lastly, I hate how people treat homosexuality as if they are a race or a people.

It is a way of life for them.

They are Regular people with fetishes.

So just because someones way of life is different automatically makes it a fetish

Incestual couples are in love with each other, can have a surrogate healthy baby, and lead a happy life. So why not fight for incestual rights? There is a double standard going on here, and people don't see it.

Fine let them get married.

If Gays want to get married, fine big woop, but stop acting like you are an oppressed people.

YOU ARE NOT AN OPPRESSED PEOPLE.

With the way they are treat by a large amount of people and with a lot of places that deny them the right to marry, it's hard to say they aren't

The actions you do are seen as disgusting to others,

So, that doesn't automatically make it wrong.

hence why they do shit to you.

hence why I hate prejudice assholes.

People get killed for their turn ons all the time, rape, pedophilia, corpophilia, necrophilia, and so forth. Its not just one specific sexuality, is all sexualities that are just socially displeasing.

Completly different situations. With stright and gay marrage the only difference between the two is male/female and male/male, female female other then that they are the same thing, two consenting adults wanting to get married.

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There is no real reason to appose something like this, history has shown that things like this eventually become legal. Minorities now have equal rights, interracial marriage was once illegal now it isn't, it is only a matter of time. So I ask, why drag it out?

I don't oppose gay marriage because I don't like gay people (I don't have a problem with homosexuality), I just strongly believe in the separation of Church and State. As defined in the Constitution of the United States, the state has no authority over religious practices, and to infringe upon the traditional ceremonies of the Christian/Catholic ceremonies of marriage is considered unconstitutional. In the bible, it defines marriage as a bond between a man and a woman, and for state to redefine this is wrong in my opinion.

I don't have any problem with homosexuals obtaining their own legal bond which has the same legal recognition as marriage, but it should be in a strictly non-religious manor. "Partnerships" are virtually the same thing as a marriage, without the title, so the problem lies within the "segregation" of gays within traditional practice.

At 4/30/09 12:21 PM, jAk88 wrote: HEIL HITLER!

didn't you make a post about hating the American troops awhile back?

you're either a shitty conservative. or a troll.

At 4/30/09 09:46 PM, Gateau wrote: I don't oppose gay marriage because I don't like gay people (I don't have a problem with homosexuality), I just strongly believe in the separation of Church and State. As defined in the Constitution of the United States, the state has no authority over religious practices, and to infringe upon the traditional ceremonies of the Christian/Catholic ceremonies of marriage is considered unconstitutional. In the bible, it defines marriage as a bond between a man and a woman, and for state to redefine this is wrong in my opinion.

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that's the real problem as I see it.
So called illusion of Church & State being somehow seperate (if its seperate Why does your money say "in God We Trust" ?)
Isn't money a State controled medium of exchange ?
What does God have to do with that ?
Which anyway I don't actually believe is a problem. Simply allow any religious organization that DOES NOT want to marry people of the same sex ,that right...so if your Catholic, you can't get married by them if your Gay. Big fuckin' deal go get married else where.
Why would anyone want to belong to a religion that doesn't agree with their lifestyle ?
The simple answer is 'they are mentally handicapped/unstabe !

I don't have any problem with homosexuals obtaining their own legal bond which has the same legal recognition as marriage, but it should be in a strictly non-religious manor. "Partnerships" are virtually the same thing as a marriage, without the title, so the problem lies within the "segregation" of gays within traditional practice.

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I disagree with you on this as well.
There are Religions that will marry same sex couples wishing to marry. Fuck legal bond bullshit.
IF they choose to get married, & a recognised religion marries them...then they are married.
You & your religious ilk don't like it ...Too fuckin' bad.

As for state sponsered marriage, why not marry anyone who wants to .
They pays their money & the two of them are under all the obligations, with all the rights any other religiously married people are...after all that's the way the system presently works for so called hetro couples, church married or state married ! !
The laws are the laws & should be applied equally to everyone. No matter what color, creed, sex, or religion & by sex I believe it means sexual preference as well ,or we could add that

Religion is a choice, that people without the ability to think for themselves, use to get through each day without being overcome, by the fact that when they die a magical fairyland isn't going to be there for them to frolick in. Having a system in place where "they believe" they will be rewarded by following all the behavioral instructions & taboo's allows them to be happy. Because "they Know" they are going to a happy place where everything is wonderful Blah, Blah, Blah.

(its kind of scarey when you think about it... being happy in life, because of delusional thinking about what happens when you die ! )
ME, I'm pretty much happy go luckey all the time & even though I know I will die someday...its no big deal, I can't do anything about it , so why bother worrying or getting upset about it.

maybe they should make there own religion
well
thats

just MY oppinion

I oppose gay marriage because i believe thats something we as a cumunitiy should keep intact. i don't care if your gay im bisexual my self. But my point being even in other religons they hold that to be between a man and wife. No gays should not be prosacuted for being that way, But you shouldn't Do it to the people aginst it either because thats thier right to not agree with it. And im tired of hearing how wrong thhey are for not excepting gays.

At 5/1/09 02:59 PM, donavan wrote: But my point being even in other religons they hold that to be between a man and wife.

nope, not always.

"Marriage may take many forms: for example, a union between one man and one woman as husband and wife is a monogamous heterosexual marriage; polygamy - in which a person takes more than one spouse - is common in some societies.[3] Some jurisdictions[4] and religious denominations[5][6][7] recognize same-sex marriage, uniting people of the same sex."
"the Nuer of Sudan allow for female-female marriage"
"For the most part, religious traditions in the world reserve marriage to heterosexual unions, but there are exceptions including Unitarian Universalist, Metropolitan Community Church, and Quaker, United Church of Canada and Reform Jewish congregations.[60][61]"

At 5/1/09 08:52 AM, homor wrote: you're either a shitty conservative. or a troll.

It's the former, the latter and the list continues.

Haven't you ever held the gaseous contents of our atmosphere in higher value when you see people like him wasting it with their stupidity?

At 4/30/09 07:42 PM, MetalSlimeHunt wrote:

At 4/30/09 06:14 PM, Phratt wrote: First off, Marriage is and has always been a holy sacrament.

Marriage is now a civil contract, only religious in history.

All Abrahamic religions rely on marriage. Sure there are other aspects of marriages outside of those religions, but they weren't dealt with or held out in the same way. The modern way we view, and go through marriage is the religious way.

See above.

To go through such a process committing a giant sin of the followers is a big mockery and a spit in the face to those of faith.

An important part of freedom is that you will see other people offending everything you belive in.

Secondly, Gay people shouldn't be adopting children. In a world where there still are homophobes and Anti-gay people, it is completely irresponsible to force a child to have to bear with the stress and ridicule you chose to through with and bear.

Like You? That adoption argument was used about 30-40 years ago in refrence to cross-racial adoption. Besides, no matter how respetable a child is, the pricks who populate the world of children will find a way to toture them.

Lastly, I hate how people treat homosexuality as if they are a race or a people.

Sexuality, as a trait that cannot be controlled, is treated in the same way as other traits that you do not control. Like a race or people.

They are Regular people with fetishes.

A fetish is a small defining trait within your sexuality. Homosexuality is a entire sexuality itself, and any gay fetishes fall within it.

Just like I like small boobs

I don't like you.

, some like lolis,

What is that? I am not going to Google it because I know exactly what will happen, so just tell me.

incest

To Each their own, I guess.

and shemales

That's a low blow.

they like their own sex. To say eww to incest and then fight for homosexual rights is just down right hypocritical.

Just because you don't like something doesn't make it wrong.

Incestual couples are in love with each other, can have a surrogate healthy baby, and lead a happy life. So why not fight for incestual rights?

We should. Granted, direct childbirth shouldn't be allowed (Due to Genetic and Diseginic problems), but adoption and surrigate birth should work out fine.

There is a double standard going on here, and people don't see it. If Gays want to get married, fine big woop, but stop acting like you are an oppressed people.

You just went back on everything you just said.

YOU ARE NOT AN OPPRESSED PEOPLE.

BEING DEINIED RIGHTS (IN THIS CASE MARRIAGE) IS OPPRESSION FOOL. ALSO, CAPS LOCK IS OVER THERE, GO PRESS IT.

The actions you do are seen as disgusting to others, hence why they do shit to you. Just like you'd tell a person who masturbated to feces that he is a disgusting fuck, others feel the same. People get killed for their turn ons all the time, rape, pedophilia, corpophilia, necrophilia, and so forth. Its not just one specific sexuality, is all sexualities that are just socially displeasing.

A person being oppressed is different than being an oppressed people. Being gay is simple insignificant trait, not a physical, or self defining one. A group of homosexuals is about as unique as a group of Gaming nerds. They are people who have fetishes, to claim homosexuality abstains from that because of your biased views is just amazing. What about furries? or Beastiality for that matter? are those sexualities or fetishes?

Defining words to create your own taxonomy for the importance of Sexual preferences is not going to help anyone. Gay men aren't all born and attracted to the same things. Some like masculine men, some like feminine men, some like transexuals and some like crossdressers. This in and of itself proves that there isn't one gene that makes a guy like dick, there are certain experiences that make them like certain things. People like you just took the similarities and grouped them together, when they are not at all related.

For example, if I'm a guy who likes very feminine shemales. What was I born? Gay or straight? What sort of freak gene spliced in order to make me like two complete opposites put together?

The answer is none. Certain things throughout my life made me attracted to shemales, not some gene. Certain things in my life made me like small boobs, not some gene. And Its 100% suppressable, for I have had many girlfriends, able to have sex, love it and lead a happy life. People are not confined to one category, and one mind state because you want people to be victimized.

Homosexuals are normal people who have abnormal sexual fetishes, this does not make them an oppressed people. If I told my friends and family I liked shemales, I'd most likely be discriminated against, but its not because i'm a type of person, but because of my actions and my attractions that are abnormal and socially disgusting. I do know eventually people will be more open minded about it, but I don't have to fight for any rights, because certain things are just disgusting to people.

Like eating semen, some people do it and find it hot, others don't. Do the ones that get made fun of for that become an oppressed people? Were they born thinking eating semen was hot? NO.

Get your head out of the box and see that we are humans and have free will. What determine our preferences is experience and memory. What we like and don't like is subconsciouly installed in our heads every second. Being black is a feature you cannot change, but Me, being a man who went from full on lesbian porn to shemale porn, back to lesbian porn then to incest, Shows that you can change it. It has to do with more than a gene.