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Nope. Sorry to break it to you.

Excuse me?

-2 years Piano experience
-11 years of Drum lessons (just stopped last summer when I moved out for college)
-8 years playing the Trombone throughout school and still pick it up once in a while.

Sir, you don't know me.

At 5/3/12 04:20 PM, LaForge wrote:

At 5/3/12 04:13 PM, MumboJ wrote: Sir, you don't know me.

we only know what you tell us, and you told us you only make one-bar loops. yes, you are a musician, but what you're whining about isn't valid because a one-bar loop is not music, no matter how much you bitch and call us ignorant.

if the point of your argument is to convince us otherwise, don't waste our time.

I should have clarified when I said that. Apologies. I am also not trying to convince you that one-bar loops are music, because in fact I am also skeptical myself. But much of music that is created live (not electronically) is done so in a repetitive manner. That is why I cannot pin down, what is or isn't music. A drum beat is repeated with slight variation.. (Keith Moon aside). I am merely asking for input on the issue. I am not intending to sound "bitchy"

Having experience playing an instrument doesn't make you a musician. To call yourself a musician, you also have to have the will to create, to innovate, in the art. If you don't consider this worthwhile and consider this more of a hobby, you're not a musician, you're a hobbyist (and that's alright).

Boy oh boy do I need to explain myself clearly the first time around. The sound loops thing is my hobby, not being a musician. I don't plan on going professional, but it is still a major part of my life and would never hold it anywhere below a passion.

In any case, I don't get your point. What do you want out of this discussion?

Duplo music / loop collages are 'frowned upon' because they are worthless. No creative endeavor is required for their creation, and no one wants to listen to them. If you're not willing to put time into it, then nobody else will. Deal with it.

I dunno, it's like any language, really. A drum loop is just a sound, like a consonant, if you will, that's part of a sentence.

That is exactly what I am saying. That is where I am confused as to why people reject repetition even though in all reality it's there. It is part of the art form

At 5/3/12 02:51 PM, LaForge wrote:

At 5/3/12 02:12 PM, SuperBastard wrote: I think I'd still prefer to be bitten by the turtle.

true, Purgy has rabies.

I will neither confirm nor deny the possibility.

To be honest, while you can create something out of repetition, too much repetition tends to get pretty fuckin' boring. From a less philosophical standpoint, I'd have to say that an artist who engages in too much repetition doesn't spend enough time on their work, and, as other say, it's not as enticing for the rest of us to listen to.

So while repetition can technically create music, it doesn't necessarily create GOOD music.

I completely agree there. Too much is bad obviously. Its just the fact that some people want to poof it away. Music is produced in a manner that repeats melodies for several verses, chorus, etc. It is just how music is composed. You take some of the most successful artists in the world (whether or not they are actually good musicians) and you will see repetition. It is impossible to escape because that is how music works.

At 5/3/12 05:26 PM, MumboJ wrote: Music is produced in a manner that repeats melodies for several verses, chorus, etc. It is just how music is composed. You take some of the most successful artists in the world (whether or not they are actually good musicians) and you will see repetition. It is impossible to escape because that is how music works.

No one was ever arguing against that.

No one was ever arguing against that.

I am merely discussing, not to worry. When i use the term 'some people', I do not mean any specific people.

Anyways.. I feel if there was a musical composition with absolutely no repetition, then would it even sound good? or would it sound like an unorganized mess..?

At 5/3/12 05:29 PM, LaForge wrote: "repetitive" is a vague term in the context of music. a chorus, verse, hook etc can be repeated many times in a song, it doesn't detract in any way from its dynamic.

on the other hand, if you just hear the same riff again and again with very little variation throughout a song, it's boring.

what do you define as repetitive?

Think.. recent radio hits on the average variety station. Its repulsive.

At 5/3/12 05:34 PM, MumboJ wrote:

At 5/3/12 05:29 PM, LaForge wrote: "repetitive" is a vague term in the context of music. a chorus, verse, hook etc can be repeated many times in a song, it doesn't detract in any way from its dynamic.

on the other hand, if you just hear the same riff again and again with very little variation throughout a song, it's boring.

what do you define as repetitive?

Think.. recent radio hits on the average variety station. Its repulsive.

My songs are nothing more than a single note over and over again.

Today, I think I'll write a song using B#.

Today, I think I'll write a song using B#.

... then gets a record deal

At 5/3/12 05:46 PM, MumboJ wrote:

Today, I think I'll write a song using B#.

... then gets a record deal

Funny story....

At 5/3/12 06:01 PM, SuperBastard wrote: Really? I personally felt as though it started to pick up around the "story" part. Either way, good read.

Oh you guises... ^_____________^

I've always wanted to try that.

I've always wanted to try that.

Implying that B with a quarter step up in pitch couldn't be a a 'half B#' ? Well I, for one, would like to see an attempt.

At 5/3/12 06:13 PM, MumboJ wrote:

I've always wanted to try that.

Implying that B with a quarter step up in pitch couldn't be a a 'half B#' ? Well I, for one, would like to see an attempt.

Wut?

I guess you're new here, don't get the reference.

I guess you're new here, don't get the reference.

I am very new.

Hence join date of a few weeks ago.. -__-

... still learning.

one does not simply jump into a forum lounge...

At 5/3/12 08:36 PM, Sequenced wrote: one does not simply jump into a forum lounge...

... too late. cry about it

(im not a noob to society)

At 5/3/12 09:37 PM, LaForge wrote:

(im not a noob to society)

there's more than one society on earth. NG is a society in its own right, with a hierarchy, citizens and police officers. unfortunately it isn't a democratic society, more like Nazi Germany.

and i'm Hitler motherfucker.

Too deep for me.

fuck all y'all

holy shit guys. I'm not going to be a nobody anymore!!!!!