At 8/19/11 02:40 PM, Back-From-Purgatory wrote:
I just gotta say, this is one of the most ridiculous arguments I've ever seen.
Keep it up!
You didn't even address it. Simply dismissing something as ridiculous without pointing out the flaws in it isn't a valid argument.
I had to rush the post though so it came off as a bit vague, what I meant is you are ultimately not in control of the causes that cause you to change your mind. It seemed from what I was quoting that the phenomenon that people's opinions aren't rigid and never-changing, somehow proved free will exists.
At 8/19/11 03:05 PM, LaForge wrote:
This is a bullshit argument. "Oh, gravity and inertia causes planets to do things, let's correlate that in a ridiculous fashion to our every day lives!" It sounds like you're saying if you can't control one thing, you can't control anything.
I didn't say say "planets are governed by gravity and inertia" or anything of the like, I said
everything we know of, on every conceivable scale, is governed by physical laws. Some examples from our every day lives: the way dominos fall, the way pressure waves (sound) are created from the falling dominos, the deformation of skin when you stick a needle in it and the electrochemical reactions that happen in the nervous system to register that needle prick as pain, which may or may not trigger an emotional response depending on the surroundings, experiences, genes and tons of other causes that you're ultimately not in control of yourself - can all be explained through a set of physical, causual laws.
Which is why I think it's silly to think that whether you end up choosing milk or orange juice is somehow removed from causuality, as opposed to every single other thing in the universe that we know of.