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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-16 09:47:55 Reply

At 5/16/11 09:36 AM, Envy wrote: I'm going to terrorize people when I'm old. Fact.

In my distant future, i see a lot of wheelchair racing and fake teeth hiding.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-16 09:49:35 Reply

I often wonder if immortality would be such a great thing.. I guess only if others could be immortal with you - I look at the pets that age faster than we do and die and feel sad.. and think itd be the same way with people- everything would be a bit bleak and time would eventually corrode your soul.

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At 5/16/11 09:49 AM, Chronamut wrote: I often wonder if immortality would be such a great thing.. I guess only if others could be immortal with you - I look at the pets that age faster than we do and die and feel sad.. and think itd be the same way with people- everything would be a bit bleak and time would eventually corrode your soul.

Two kinds of people would fare extraordinarily well. Both being extraverts, but at either end of the scale. Ie those with socio-centric pathologies such as narcissistic personality disorder, and psychopathy. At the other end, you'd have your altruistic types, people with a sound mind, a view towards helping others (whatever the cost), and a good sense of rationality, coupled with a fair intellectual ability.

Narcissists will be fine, as their relationships with others are completely self-serving. Once their current source of narcissistic supply has withered away, they will simply seek out another one. As long as they are being paid attention to, it doesn't matter who is paying that attention to them. Even if the attention is overwhelmingly negative, they will lap it up. This is why you should never bother with a narcissist. The chance of rehabilitation is probably equal to the chance of rehabilitating a sociopath. Not that it matters to the narcissist of course ;D.

On the other end of the scale, people with a positive socio-centric attitude would also be fine. They would always have the ability to form deep and mutually beneficial relationships with others. These people enjoy the challenge of befriending someone that interests them. If they posess a sound, rational mind, death won't matter because it means that they would always have a rich social tapestry that is ever-evolving and full of endless opportunity. If they have the brains to know when to let go of something, watching their loved ones grow old and die will not be a soul-crushing experience. Take it from me, when you are exposed to the death of a loved one, you learn how to let go.

Ultimately, death will in fact mean less and less as each generation passes, because you will always be gaining wisdom, which will allow you to integrate the fairly trivial matter of death/non-existence. Unless of course you stubbornly hold on to irrational beliefs that have no grounding in reality (ie, believing in deities/belief in having a soul-mate/belief in spiritual or religious destiny/believing that your subjective experience is actually *important*/believing in ).

Of course, non-existence would be directly responsible for other issues. Issues which stem once again from a lack of rationality. For example, many people derive their self-worth from their popularity or social status. This is bad if you are eternal, because it means that you have to be constantly re-establishing your popularity. THIS is bad, because for the average person, it would mean a lot of lying. A lot of lying, for such an abstract and meaningless concept. Also, people can, and will, turn on you. The more people you know, the more people there are to someday hate your guts. If you view society as a ladder to be climbed and conquered, once and for all - you will fall off. If you have to keep doing this shit for the rest of your life, it WILL drain you at some point. A reliance upon popularity, without the benefit of a narcissistic or psychopathic disorder, is a pretty fast track to a life of depression and self-resentment.

As an introvert, I would probably find it hard over the first couple of hundred years. I'm fiercely skeptical, and this + introversion, makes it fairly difficult for me to make close, long and meaningful relationships with other people. I don't care what anyone says...most people will need the company of others to stop them from going insane. Don't confuse this with deriving your worth from others, however. It plays a part, but mostly, you need to talk to people. You need to touch them, and hear them. I would simply find it hard to make new friends once all my current ones had died off...my introverted and skeptical nature simply prevents me from doing so. However, eventually, you'd just have to buck the fuck up and get out there.

Most people exist somewhere between the two aforementioned extremes. Immortality would be tough for most, and as you go down the ranks as far as overall intellectual ability is concerned, I think that you would start to see a causal increase in the development of pathologies/neuroses/psychoses, depending on the individuals mental tapestry. Stuff like OCD, de-personalization/de-realization, catatonic depression, psychosis/schizophrenia etc. The longer that these persisted without some kind of intervention or spiritual realization, the worse it would get.

Having said that, I'm not ragging on dumbasses here. I think that a rational mind in an immortal body would be much more important than a genius level IQ. And to be honest, I think it would be interesting to see how a bunch of *normal* people would develop if they were imbued with immortality. I think in the end(?), every immortal agent would have chosen a path that either drives them to become purely narcissistic or altruistic.

Personally, I think that immortality would be great, in theory. I have an insatiable thirst for knowledge, and I could read all the books in the world if I had all the time in the world ;). Conveniently forgetting that we don't have the resources to support such an abomination, I would love to live forever. We are so far removed from death, that we have over-romanticized one of the most normal things ever.

Your parents will be dead one day. You will have friends that die before you do. Shit, they dont even have to die...sometimes we fall out with people and never see them again. But these gaps in your external social network should be getting filled with new people. You might think that your little bubble is static, but really, it's as dynamic as you're willing to let it be. And if you do understand that your friends, family and acquaintances are constantly shifting around now (and you are cool with this), then there's no reason why it should be any better or worse for you in 1000 years time.

TL:DR if you don't want to be immortal, then it's probably not for you.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-16 16:20:34 Reply

Anyone want a new sig?


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-16 16:32:57 Reply

At 5/16/11 04:20 PM, InvisibleObserver wrote: Anyone want a new sig?

I'm due for a new one. I was just going to compress my web banner... but if you're offering...

I'd take one =]


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-16 16:58:49 Reply

Today

The day xKore got a Facebook account and added just about the whole audio community.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-16 17:04:54 Reply

At 5/16/11 04:58 PM, Mich wrote: Today

The day xKore got a Facebook account and added just about the whole audio community.

I only recognized your face on his current friendlist...

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-16 17:17:55 Reply

At 5/16/11 05:04 PM, SBB wrote:
At 5/16/11 04:58 PM, Mich wrote: Today

The day xKore got a Facebook account and added just about the whole audio community.
I only recognized your face on his current friendlist...

Wut, you didn't recognize mine?


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-16 18:10:18 Reply

Ill probably get around to adding most of yall on fb, John-Paul Behr btw.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-16 18:44:19 Reply

At 5/16/11 04:58 PM, Mich wrote: Today

The day xKore got a Facebook account and added just about the whole audio community.

I harassed him via IM about how much I loved his song chaoz airflow.

Seriously, that shit was tight.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-16 19:39:30 Reply

i already have way too many internet people on my facebook :<


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-17 05:53:06 Reply

yeah but xkore is a badass

tour's over

so guys. i'm home. i'm only here until sunday, then I'm driving out to Lenox, MA for my summer gig. If any of you are in the area, I'll probably be able to hook you up with some tickets to a show or two.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-17 10:18:54 Reply

At 5/17/11 09:37 AM, EricFreeman wrote: Tuesday

The day all my songs get 0 bombed by immature musicians. Oh boy!

Ah, I love the smell of zero-bombing assholes on Tuesday morning

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-17 10:40:16 Reply

Jarrydn's rant on immortality

I completely agree with you Jarrydn - hell if you looked even at the mythological gods of olympus you could see which oens were narcissistic (hell they named the word after narcissus after all) and altruistic.

Eventually you simply want to control thsoe beneath you or seek to help them with your collective wisdom. I feel I would probably be a rather temperamental immortal, with an almost alchemist fiery temperament, willing to help others one moment and just fly into a rage the next and seek to control others the next, and then eventually want nothing to do with humanity.. I see that in my personality already.. a restlessness that isn't sure where to settle to be happy. A too-strong sense of self I suppose that feels the need to be unique and stand out to be relevant.

I would find it difficult because being eternal would also mean that you looked and acted the asme age - but your soul would age, so I believe others naive opinions and lack of knowledge would eventually bug you.. you'd eventually want to hang out with older and older people and then the death turnover would become larger and larger as those peopel would start to rapidly deteriorate.

think of being am od, and having to fix peoples mistakes or tell people the same thing over and over and over but then mroe and more people come in and its an endless cycle of teaching the same thnigs to an ever increasing naive and unyeilding populace. I think liek I said, it would eventually corrode your soul. You would definitely have to find some meaning to fill the eternal void as eventually you will have done EVERYTHING there is to do and you may grow weary of life.

Mind you the world will evolve and thus there will probably always be new things to experience, but I believe your faith in humanity would eventually decline, no matter how good your intentions to help them. I think the ultimate end result isnt narcissism OR altruism, I think eventualyl these would also be seen as a sham - I think apathy is the ultimate result - an eventual non-caring for all living things, a. 10,000 years of just seeing so much that NOTHING phases or affects you anymore, or even brings you joy.

They used to say that immortality was the worst punishment of all because it robbed the person of the freedom of death.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-17 10:45:44 Reply

At 5/17/11 10:18 AM, MrSaint wrote:
At 5/17/11 09:37 AM, EricFreeman wrote: Tuesday

The day all my songs get 0 bombed by immature musicians. Oh boy!
Ah, I love the smell of zero-bombing assholes on Tuesday morning

lol wut, my post got deleted. Uhhhh.....

Also, it happens Tuesday night right before the rollover, heh

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-17 10:56:07 Reply

it's the circle of life - admittedly without that flash fire every week everythnig would be at ridicously high scores - the zeroing weathers submisions down - the ones that have been there longer weather it better, and thus persist longer- it's a system that allows older submissions to eventually rise to the top - thus I really don't mind it.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-17 10:59:32 Reply

Maybe it's better to keep discussion about zerobombing out of the lounge and go here instead.
EricFreeman's posts weren't deleted for nothing.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-17 22:36:48 Reply

Death Threats and Scandals

So, I get the pleasure of being smack dab in the middle of a shit storm that I had little to no idea I was stepping into at first.
Long story short, there's a death threat directed at me, from a guy that I banned from my newspost/PMs about a month ago... Turns out he has a crap ton of alts and snuck his way back into my domain to harass me some more.

TL;DR:
I have a homicidal e-stalker.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-17 22:44:59 Reply

At 5/17/11 10:36 PM, Back-From-Purgatory wrote: I have a homicidal e-stalker.

All this because you blocked him from your mailing list? ...What?


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-17 22:49:11 Reply

At 5/17/11 10:44 PM, Stupor wrote:
At 5/17/11 10:36 PM, Back-From-Purgatory wrote: I have a homicidal e-stalker.
All this because you blocked him from your mailing list? ...What?

It's a bit more complicated than that, but I'm not at liberty to speak publicly about it.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-17 22:54:30 Reply

I got a performance question:
I have two gig slots open to me, 7 PM and 11PM. which one should I take?

This would be my first actual show, and I want to get some new listeners, as well as make sure friends and family can come.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-17 22:55:38 Reply

At 5/17/11 10:54 PM, RhythmBastard wrote: I got a performance question:
I have two gig slots open to me, 7 PM and 11PM. which one should I take?

This would be my first actual show, and I want to get some new listeners, as well as make sure friends and family can come.

What time of the week? On the weekend, I'd say 11... during the week, I'd say 7.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-17 23:18:53 Reply

At 5/17/11 10:55 PM, Back-From-Purgatory wrote:
At 5/17/11 10:54 PM, RhythmBastard wrote: I got a performance question:
I have two gig slots open to me, 7 PM and 11PM. which one should I take?

This would be my first actual show, and I want to get some new listeners, as well as make sure friends and family can come.
What time of the week? On the weekend, I'd say 11... during the week, I'd say 7.

I'd say 11 regardless lol. Just from personal experience going out to shows. During the week 11 is a pretty prime slot at most places. If you're overly nervous, the early slot would be more forgiving if you fuck up though.

But hell... going on at 11 and owning it would be the best scenario though!


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-18 00:43:39 Reply

Collab with me!

Guys I've got this new computer, sound card and all, and I can't make a song for the life of me!
I need someone to collab with...please help a brother out!


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-18 01:12:52 Reply

At 5/18/11 12:43 AM, TMM43 wrote: Collab with me!

Guys I've got this new computer, sound card and all, and I can't make a song for the life of me!
I need someone to collab with...please help a brother out!

What program ya using?

On another note:

Dunno how many here this applies to... but holy shit the price of a box of rubbers has gone up! I was not a happy camper earlier at the Walgreens haha.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-18 01:16:36 Reply

At 5/17/11 10:54 PM, RhythmBastard wrote: I got a performance question:
I have two gig slots open to me, 7 PM and 11PM. which one should I take?

This would be my first actual show, and I want to get some new listeners, as well as make sure friends and family can come.

If its at a place that only plays music (no bar) 7 and 11 slots are probably gonna pretty empty if no one big is playing that night. And from my experience itll practically be just people coming to see you and some left overs from the previous band's.

You will probably get to talk to the owner more at the 11 slot, and that will score you better shows in the future. But if its the first time you are playing at a venue and your band has no name its practically a try out to see how scrubby yall are.

Thats how my city is at least.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-18 01:19:15 Reply

At 5/18/11 01:12 AM, EchozAurora wrote:
What program ya using?

FL


On another note:

Dunno how many here this applies to... but holy shit the price of a box of rubbers has gone up! I was not a happy camper earlier at the Walgreens haha.

You know I noticed that. I was wondering why 3 years ago it was like 15 bucks for a 36 pack. Now its like 22 !


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2011-05-18 02:50:24 Reply

condoms prices

ahem