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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge Apr. 25th, 2011 @ 11:05 AM Reply

At 4/25/11 10:53 AM, Chronamut wrote: psychiatrists are for the weak who cannot solve their own mental issues >:}>

doctors are for the weak who cannot solve their own physical issues.

also I've never taken an iq test - I should - doesn't that shit just test how much you can memorize though?

don't. it's useless and most tests will only give you a number that's far higher than it should be so you can brag about it and post the score along with a link to the test on a social network on your choice.
it's supposed to test your ability to solve new problems but usually it's a bunch of pattern recognition and logic problems.

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At 4/25/11 11:05 AM, SBB wrote:
At 4/25/11 10:53 AM, Chronamut wrote: psychiatrists are for the weak who cannot solve their own mental issues >:}>
doctors are for the weak who cannot solve their own physical issues.

recognition and logic problems.

doctors proscribe pills to almost everything.. even somethings which simple chyropractic processes could fix. Unless you are poisoned or have broken bones your body is built to be able to repair itself. Most weird things in the body happen when your body isnt in harmony with itself - this can be a spine misalignment in which one side bows out thus crushing the nerve endings on one side causing all sorts of fun side effects, and the other is a mineral imbalance like copper or zinc in your body.

But yes thats a little like comparing apples and oranges. For example being "bipolar" can usually be corrected by balancing out your copper/zinc ratios.

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At 4/25/11 10:53 AM, Chronamut wrote: psychiatrists are for the weak who cannot solve their own mental issues >:}>

most people that say stuff like that are usually some of the most pompous narrow visioned people i encounter... but your not like that at all are you chron?

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge Apr. 25th, 2011 @ 11:24 AM Reply

At 4/25/11 10:44 AM, SymbolCymbal wrote: but then again he DEMANDED i get an IQ test....

I don't entirely agree with the objectivity of an IQ test but a bit of that comes from considering Gardner's theory. It seems to me as if most IQ tests aim more towards mathematic and linguistic skills when in reality there is a much wider spectrum of problem solving skills.

Also, not all IQ tests are the same. There have been some visual questions I've seen where I thought to myself that the answer could be subjective based off of whether the individual was right brained or left brained but I couldn't find an example :c


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i think IQ tests are bullshit,,, they cant tell you how smart you are but i do believe they can tell if you are mentally retarded.... they should call it a MDQ (Mental Disability Quiz) cause i consider myself a very smart and articulate person but the IQ test says im close to a genius... I CALL BULLSHIT... Just because i can figure out things easily and solve problems and mimic vocabulary easily does NOT mean i put it to any good use. a genius would use his abilities to better themselves..... i just kick ass at sudoku and people like me because im entertaining and funny and because i dont shut up. My dad said i should have been a politician... i think hes right... im better at talking and coming up with ideas and giving orders then i am at doing actual work. I'd rather just talk to people and get them excited about stuff and then create a vision and instruct people to create my vision and how to do it.

BTW my spelling is terrible... and so is my punctuation

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At 4/25/11 11:22 AM, SymbolCymbal wrote:
At 4/25/11 10:53 AM, Chronamut wrote: psychiatrists are for the weak who cannot solve their own mental issues >:}>
most people that say stuff like that are usually some of the most pompous narrow visioned people i encounter... but your not like that at all are you chron?

of course not. Also you know what I mean.. instead of people solving their own issues these days they just go to a shrink and expect them to do it for them. There is just an extreme lack of initiative - I mean we're all fucked up - we've all had fucked up things happen to us - all it takes is the willpower to move on sometimes. I mean sure if you have an obsessive compulsion to collect 5,000 cats or somethnig then yes perhaps you need to go see a shrink - but imo seeing a shrink is still for people who are borderline crazy.. not for a person who say.. is afraid of bikes.

also I'm not paying an exhorbitant amt of money for a guy to sit in a chair for me to talk to.. when I can just discuss that same shit with almost anyone I know and probably get the same results.

Not that I'd do it at all - fuck that.

also being a genius does not mean you are a useful member of society - Great you can do complex math problems at the age of 2 - if you are gonna be stuck in a forest with lots of things that want to eat you what is gonig to help you- the ability to do complex math problems or the ability to quickly adapt and succeed in any situation? THAT imo is genius.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge Apr. 25th, 2011 @ 11:51 AM Reply

At 4/25/11 11:16 AM, Chronamut wrote: doctors proscribe pills to almost everything.. even somethings which simple chyropractic processes could fix. Unless you are poisoned or have broken bones your body is built to be able to repair itself.

Except for genetic disorders, brain damage, serious injuries, congenital diseases and disabilities, some cancers and heart diseases depending on one's life style, an array of infections and viruses, all sorts of defects like myopia, etcccccccc. But of course, a healthy lifestyle will almost always help more than any prescription drugs can.

Most weird things in the body happen when your body isnt in harmony with itself - this can be a spine misalignment in which one side bows out thus crushing the nerve endings on one side causing all sorts of fun side effects,

oww, fun side effects like mind numbing chronic pain or paralysis probably, that sounds pretty serious :P

and the other is a mineral imbalance like copper or zinc in your body.

i.e issues that arise from not having a sane and/or diverse diet

But yes thats a little like comparing apples and oranges.

The doctors/psychiatrist thing or the misaligned-spine-crushing-a-nerve/copper -zinc-balance thing?

For example being "bipolar" can usually be corrected by balancing out your copper/zinc ratios.

what

source?

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge Apr. 25th, 2011 @ 11:55 AM Reply

Chron, I just spent ages writing a reply to your post, but instead of going down that path, I'm just going to say this:

Don't take an IQ test, you might be disappointed with the results.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge Apr. 25th, 2011 @ 11:59 AM Reply

At 4/25/11 11:55 AM, jarrydn wrote: Chron, I just spent ages writing a reply to your post, but instead of going down that path, I'm just going to say this:

Don't take an IQ test, you might be disappointed with the results.

the wonderful thing about language is that this could just as well be criticism towards IQ tests as a poorly concealed attempt to tell him that he's stupid

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge Apr. 25th, 2011 @ 12:14 PM Reply

Psychiatrists

I hate going to psychiatrists.

I've been sent to different ones four times, twice by my parents, once by my headmaster and once by my English teacher, probably because of my excessive lack of socialising.

Each time they say the exact same things: "There was never a problem with you in the first place, you're a very good listener, and your mind is really advanced for your age". Then I do my fake smile, shake hands and leave.

Such a waste of time.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge Apr. 25th, 2011 @ 12:47 PM Reply

At 4/25/11 12:14 PM, Supersteph54 wrote: Psychiatrists

I hate going to psychiatrists.

I've been sent to different ones four times, twice by my parents, once by my headmaster and once by my English teacher, probably because of my excessive lack of socialising.

Each time they say the exact same things: "There was never a problem with you in the first place, you're a very good listener, and your mind is really advanced for your age". Then I do my fake smile, shake hands and leave.

Such a waste of time.

I've seen 3 psychiatrists plus a therapist in the past 3 weeks. But not because I'm anti-social, it's because I have no morals. But I'm ok with that... nobody else seems to be though.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge Apr. 25th, 2011 @ 12:50 PM Reply

At 4/25/11 11:51 AM, SBB wrote:
At 4/25/11 11:16 AM, Chronamut wrote: doctors proscribe pills to almost everything.. even somethings which simple chyropractic processes could fix. Unless you are poisoned or have broken bones your body is built to be able to repair itself.
Except for genetic disorders, brain damage, serious injuries, congenital diseases and disabilities, some cancers and heart diseases depending on one's life style, an array of infections and viruses, all sorts of defects like myopia, etcccccccc. But of course, a healthy lifestyle will almost always help more than any prescription drugs can.

true.

Most weird things in the body happen when your body isnt in harmony with itself - this can be a spine misalignment in which one side bows out thus crushing the nerve endings on one side causing all sorts of fun side effects,
oww, fun side effects like mind numbing chronic pain or paralysis probably, that sounds pretty serious :P

I have it - basically I used to work at a chandelier store building and hanging up very heavy chandeliers - I may not look it but I am very strong. Anyways I was hanging a giant cage chandelier - probably bigger than me - and it was steel and resin - thus horrificly heavy - I needed to have 2 guys help support it underneath while I went up on the ladder with the chain and wrap it aroudn the beam in the store - well they shifted their weight and all the weight of the chandelier went into my one arm - and naturally my arm couldnt support all that weight so the load distribution went into my back and basially stressed my spine out so much that it buckled out to the left. I felt this sharp tingling in my spine and I kenw I was fucked - I got x-rays so I know where it is - but I will have to get chiropractic help eventually

there are 4 stages of spine degeneration.. I am in the first stage.. most people only get help in their second stage when stuff starts to go bad in their bodies - each stage takes a year to repair - once you reach your third and 3th stage you're confined to a wheelchair and there isn't erally much they can do to help you. Ive already started to get weird symptoms - pains on my left abdomen.. stuff liek that that the hospital cant explain.. but atm the symptoms are negligable.

and the other is a mineral imbalance like copper or zinc in your body.
i.e issues that arise from not having a sane and/or diverse diet

agreed.

But yes thats a little like comparing apples and oranges.
The doctors/psychiatrist thing or the misaligned-spine-crushing-a-nerve/copper -zinc-balance thing?

the doctor psychiatrist thing - with doctors liek you mentioned you HAVE to go to the doctor or you can die.

On deneralyl doesn't die if they don't go to the psychiatrist :P

For example being "bipolar" can usually be corrected by balancing out your copper/zinc ratios.
what

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you asked, I provide!

http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/copper _toxicity_syndrome.htm

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge Apr. 25th, 2011 @ 01:01 PM Reply

Yeaaah I've got that scoliosis bizniz too from playing the tenors in marching band. Who knew carrying 6 drums strapped to your front for hours at a time was bad for your back?


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At 4/25/11 01:01 PM, Envy wrote: Yeaaah I've got that scoliosis bizniz too from playing the tenors in marching band. Who knew carrying 6 drums strapped to your front for hours at a time was bad for your back?

well according to the article balancing your copper/zinc ratios can also help scoliosis :)

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge Apr. 25th, 2011 @ 03:17 PM Reply

At 4/25/11 01:05 PM, Chronamut wrote:
At 4/25/11 01:01 PM, Envy wrote: Yeaaah I've got that scoliosis bizniz too from playing the tenors in marching band. Who knew carrying 6 drums strapped to your front for hours at a time was bad for your back?
well according to the article balancing your copper/zinc ratios can also help scoliosis :)

So I should eat pennies.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge Apr. 25th, 2011 @ 03:57 PM Reply

At 4/25/11 07:36 AM, Mich wrote: REAL MEN EAT ORANGES

Only if they had just brushed their teeth!!!

At 4/25/11 03:17 PM, Envy wrote: So I should eat pennies.

Nah, not enough, go take a chomp out of the statue of liberty, it's got copper and a sense of pride!

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge Apr. 25th, 2011 @ 04:06 PM Reply

I guess I'll be the odd one out and say I like psychiatrists. He asked me the question "What would you wish for if you had one wish?" I told him I'd wish for an amazing totally custom built studio with top of the line gear/equipment. He said every time he asks that question he gets people wishing for either a million dollars or more wishes. My answer was interesting to him because instead of wishing for money to slack off and do whatever I wanted to do, I wanted the tools to work as a musician.

Now that might not seem interesting to you, and rather simple, but it's something I got from him that I wouldn't have gotten from anyone else. There were other things that he really helped me through, but that something that really stuck to me.


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At 4/25/11 04:06 PM, Darkmaster603 wrote: I guess I'll be the odd one out and say I like psychiatrists. He asked me the question "What would you wish for if you had one wish?"

My psychiatrist asked me an extremely similar question... And my reply was fairly similar to your own. I basically said to be able to share my music with the world and make a living doing what I love, not make a living as in rich and famous... just so I can live... More money = more problems.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge Apr. 25th, 2011 @ 04:34 PM Reply

I went to a psychiatrist for a while too. And it was really interesting and helpful.
He taught me a lot of things.
One thing we did was analyzing certain situations and trying to figure out why i handled the situation in the way that i did. And once you do that a couple of times and you see a pattern of behavior, it gets easier to change that kind of behavior. It helped me to recognize and change my 'automatic thoughts'.

And the way i see it, the only one who can help you is yourself.
Sometimes you just need some help in helping yourself.


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At 4/25/11 04:34 PM, FairSquare wrote: Sometimes you just need some help in helping yourself.

I "help myself" every night, sometimes I switch things up and it's like someone else is helping me too!


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I guess i'm like the super man out, since i've never seen a psychiatrist . Though it may have helped, or just determined that i am in fact crazy xP

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At 4/25/11 04:38 PM, Kirbyfemur wrote: I guess i'm like the super man out, since i've never seen a psychiatrist . Though it may have helped, or just determined that i am in fact crazy xP

They say that those who are truly crazy feel they are completely normal... I only started thinking I was crazy when someone told me it's not ok to laugh during a funeral.


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Why would you laugh during a funeral...:(


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At 4/25/11 04:46 PM, Darkmaster603 wrote: Why would you laugh during a funeral...:(

Felt like the right thing to do at the time... But I guess that's part of the reason I was forced into a seeing a psychiatrist.


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My IQ is higher then Einsteins.


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At 4/25/11 05:00 PM, InvisibleObserver wrote: My IQ is higher then Einsteins.

That dude had some issues, have any high IQ related issues?

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At 4/25/11 05:02 PM, Kirbyfemur wrote:
At 4/25/11 05:00 PM, InvisibleObserver wrote: My IQ is higher then Einsteins.
That dude had some issues, have any high IQ related issues?

The joke is he didn't take a modern Iq test, and did average on intelligence testing programs.


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At 4/25/11 05:04 PM, InvisibleObserver wrote:
At 4/25/11 05:02 PM, Kirbyfemur wrote:
At 4/25/11 05:00 PM, InvisibleObserver wrote: My IQ is higher then Einsteins.
That dude had some issues, have any high IQ related issues?
The joke is he didn't take a modern Iq test, and did average on intelligence testing programs.

Lol yeah, that and if i remember right, he couldn't do a lot of normal functions that we all could. So pretty much the only thing he could do was think. Screw tests, they don't show how smart or unintelligent you might be, they only show how well you can take a test lol

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At 4/25/11 05:00 PM, InvisibleObserver wrote: My IQ is higher then Einsteins.

This guy does.