At 11/27/10 09:39 AM, sorohanro wrote:
I love when a crappy singer rant about Elvis and say "he had no talent and no voice", I love when crappy piano players say "Chick Corea is shit, only people who don't know the real jazz can listen to his music" and so on. Those people talk more about themselves, about their insecurity and lack of understanding of music, harmony, orchestration and values generally speaking.
Even if one of the great names isn't "your cup of tea" you can't say it's shit... well, you can if you don't understand music. If you do understand music, then you can say "despite of the spectacular orchestration and the very effective way of using brass and percussion, despite of the very melodic themes and the variational treatment and complex rhythmic and melodic material, I don't like it because |________insert reason why_______|".
Reminds me of the author of this opera who said that F.Chopin is shit.
Well sorry sorohanro but i must greatly disagree with you about the above.
Its not my opinion or preference its a synopsis, an abstract based on .. well lets just call it the math of music.
Hans zimmer 'does nót' make 'very melodic themes' like you proclaim nor are his rythms complex.
He mightve done so in the lion king, the absolute majority of his work is exactly like i have said; uninspired, widely copied over and over again (same as earlier works) and stupifyingly bland.
I GET IT that he is popular, i understand that, but being popular does not mean you make brilliant music, even the kings of the midages were average fuckups.
Nowhere i said that i am a fantastic composer myself, but i 'know of myself that would i have the same materials that zimmer bakes his pots with, i would definately make better works than him, i dont give a flying shit if people think thats arrogant or inflated I <--- know it is so.
Ive got plenty of works i can compare with zimmers movie featured scores (not on this site cause the instrumental quality is really horrible, made on console and all) that already are on all fronts much better.
and yes i also know how people cant see orchestral and movies appart anymore and orchestral now has become the only kind of classical 'most' young people actually know of and if you get breastfed blockbuster that close to ALWAYS contains the same 'tension' type of blockbuster music either made by danny elfman, hans zimmer or some copycat of either then i understand that people think his music is fantastic because its all they know. You should know better of all people, you yourself áre familiar with ratio as far as i know and should be well aware that the conventional is of pretty bad quality.
Perhaps i am an elitist i dont care, this is the way i think.
I dont feel like repeating myself to be honest cause before this post i was very lighthearted half of what i said was greatly exagerated anyway, the way people are mocking me like i was serious or something is just sad, but to you i do think its worth a serious reply.
Yes i do genuinely think hans zimmer is a bad composer compared to the crop, thats not why i posted about him though, im just poking around and having some fun in this topic like i thought was the whole idea, since im not 12 and feel the need to talk about penis the whole time, a thing others in here do. Some people here act like im some whiny brat trying to religiously convince everyone of i have no idea what all, while i was under the impression that lighthearted pokes were just the thing this topic was about.
Must be my mistake again, look at me im such a asshole completely interrupting conversation about penis, or actually existing on this forum to begin with, it would be much better without calamaistr.
In fact calamaistr should just get erased from the whole NG site so his never reviewed music wich is laughable and totally inferior to hans zimmer can be just the same as it is now, never heard of again.
p.s. the thread mood is what my cat would look like if i had one.