At 11/17/10 02:39 PM, MrSaint wrote:
That and I got this thought, that the chat will obviously gather all the people from all forums. Unless it will have rooms like #audio, #general, it will be a big soup of shit and cocks
Signal to noise is a tough nut to crack with any chat exposed to a wide audience. If they were to implement a newgrounds chat on a custom platform that did not allow for the creation of additional rooms, unless the staff created channels accessible only by people who meet certain requirements (say, X number of BBS posts [this can serve as a reasonable measure of quality, as in most cases if you're pointlessly spammy you'll be banned long before reaching even a few hundred posts. so while they might not be quality posts, the user is unlikely to spam pointlessly] or even user level or something to represent a time commitment to the site), then the party line channels would likely be completely swamped and more or less useless for real communication.
In my own experience, once a party line reaches about 20 active conversants, it's about at the point of saturation. Usually by that threshold you've got three or four different conversations going on, and any more active chatters turns it into a mess of noise where people aren't getting heard, and the conversational quality declines.
What you tend to run into on IRC channels that get popular is fragmentation, where 'elite' users will branch off into sub-channels to avoid the noise. This makes them less active in the main channel, which sucks because the 'elite' users usually provide the bulk of signal.
Yes, moderation helps, but it can be tough to maintain order, especially a channel that would receive the kind of traffic an NG-centric chat (linked from the front page, no less) would receive. You can ban new IPs all day but never run out of spammers in an environment like that.
I guess ultimately my point would be as follows:
1) A newgrounds chat would attract an unbelievable amount of spamming/abusive behavior
2) The only solution most legitimate users would see to this problem would be a retreat from the primary channel
3) If a newgrounds chat would have a near-zero signal to noise ratio, what's the benefit (for the staff of NG) of running one?