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At 11/2/10 05:08 PM, LogicalDefiance wrote: Why does nobody care that 70 years of repression is about to take its first major turn by legalizing cannabis?!? ITS FUCKING INTERESTING

wait, where? i'd care more if i had some data to go with. i honestly don't pay much attention to the world out side my little campus...

At 11/2/10 05:08 PM, LogicalDefiance wrote: Why does nobody care that 70 years of repression is about to take its first major turn by legalizing cannabis?!? ITS FUCKING INTERESTING

omg i'm literally on the edge of my seat, logical defiance. Soon it will be 420 every day!

it will be harder for kids to get it, crime surrounding its sale will be eradicated, people will stop going to prison for it, people can stop taking nasty pharmaceuticals.

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Homosexuality in the Lounge? Okay that is normal, but religion? lol controversy :p

At 11/2/10 05:08 PM, LogicalDefiance wrote: Why does nobody care that 70 years of repression is about to take its first major turn by legalizing cannabis?!? ITS FUCKING INTERESTING

Seriously? I did not know of this until now.

cannabis

depends what kind, natural or commercial?
because if its commercial you can bet your ass that people are going to use chems (such as growth enhancers, or worse) because yield is money and money is what people are stupidly horny on.
(putting great emphasis on the word stupidly)

also, its better to just not smoke it and become okay with doing nothing and instead use it (hemp) to make paper and rope etc, and cloths. Saves a lot of rainforest but we all know that will never happen for the same reason why commercial 'anything will never be good for whatever simply because of the money that again and again makes people even dumber than drinking sugar cider at a club.

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At 11/2/10 06:45 PM, Calamaistr wrote: cannabis

depends what kind, natural or commercial?
because if its commercial you can bet your ass that people are going to use chems (such as growth enhancers, or worse) because yield is money and money is what people are stupidly horny on.
(putting great emphasis on the word stupidly)

why would biochemicals be an issue if it's just for making non edible hemp products? also, why would they put dangerous chemicals in the weed if it was for recreation? wouldn't that just be counter productive for legalization?

also, if it were legal i'm pretty sure i'd own my own plant.

also, its better to just not smoke it and become okay with doing nothing and instead use it (hemp) to make paper and rope etc, and cloths. Saves a lot of rainforest but we all know that will never happen for the same reason why commercial 'anything will never be good for whatever simply because of the money that again and again makes people even dumber than drinking sugar cider at a club.

wait... that sounded like a rant but i'm having trouble understanding you...

Go on with the controversy.

Who cares what makes people homosexual? When it comes right down to it, you are addicted to a feeling of pleasure. What is so different about being gay or being straight? If you said, babies, well, yeah, that is about it.. and you know what? Most straight foos be trying to avoid getting the cradle dumped on them anyway.

That said, I think it's an interesting topic of study, just for the sake of knowledge.. but really, who gives a fuck? If someone is gay because of their genes, or because of their environment.. what is the difference?

Personally, I think that most of what makes a person is their environment, but that said, I don't think that hurts or helps the case of those who might have a different sexual preference than me. When it comes right down to it, it doesn't matter, and I don't give a fuck.

I can't believe that a few years back, the people in government were actually considering making an amendment to the fucking constitution to ban gay marriage. Shit, I mean, imagine that? Right next to "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." you have "fags aren't allowed to marry."

My solution to that problem is simple. Marriage has no place in government.. instead, give everyone civil unions.. It is up to those fucking retarded churches to decide whether or not it is a marriage. Shit, you get the same benefits with a civil union as marriage..

Of course, the whole point of getting benefits for being married has to do with the fact that you are bringing good strong American soldiers and civil servants into the world.. Fuck that shit.(and I apologize to non-Americans, this is a pretty American-centric rant)

And fuck the government. I hate any organization that not only makes you a part of it at birth, but uses coercion and mob like activities to make sure you follow their rules.

As far as I'm concerned, the government isn't any better than the Catholic Church. In case you are too stupid to make the connection, I hate both.

Religion and government are the same thing. Both of them are crocks of shit, and complete jokes. Anarchy is the true rule.. Governments only have power because they are able to enforce it. Religion only has power because people are big enough schmucks to fall for it.

At 11/2/10 06:31 PM, Bjra wrote: it will be harder for kids to get it, crime surrounding its sale will be eradicated, people will stop going to prison for it, people can stop taking nasty pharmaceuticals.

Yes, yes, and yes, and hopefully it wont start a CA vs USA war because the Obama Administration officially announced that federal law will still be enforced over CA law.

At 11/2/10 06:34 PM, Alfraydo wrote: Seriously? I did not know of this until now.

People in California are voting on it today. Prop 19 =)

At 11/2/10 06:45 PM, Calamaistr wrote: depends what kind, natural or commercial?

Both will be around, although with federal law enforcers still cracking down, it wont jump immediately into the mass commercial market, but rather spawn a number of mom n pop shops.

because if its commercial you can bet your ass that people are going to use chems

Cannabis users, unlike cigarette smokers, tend to pride more in well grown organic product, and the only people dumb enough to smoke them will be the same dumb people smoking Newports instead of getting pure tobacco, or in other words 'Health value will be in control by the hands of the consumers." Also the cannabis plant has a very large and fast yield, growing a third faster then any other standard type of crop(like corn/fruits/tobacco/etc). Although that's not to say that you are wrong, some company will probably eventually find ways to grow it even faster and put chemicals in it, but people do this is every market of food and drugs.

At 11/2/10 07:20 PM, jarrydn wrote: cannabis

Why don't I care about legalization? Because i love cannabis, but i cannot stand the stupid stoner culture that surrounds it.

Plus I have a feeling that the majority of commercially grown pot will be hydroponic. I'm more of a bush weed guy myself ;D

THANK YOU. THIS 1000 TIMES. Everyone enjoys weed from time to time. I can't stand people who try and shove it down your throat that they smoke weed.... Really? I can handle the like quilt-sweatshirts, and the big beanie hats... but seriously, calm the fuck down, you're the reason that it gets such a bad rep.

At 11/2/10 07:20 PM, jarrydn wrote:

Why don't I care about legalization? Because i love cannabis, but i cannot stand the stupid stoner culture that surrounds it.

Thats a stereotype...most smokers aren't even public about it, they are regular old working people who smoke at night. The kids who go around saying "sup duuuuude heyyyy maaaaannnn im so highhhh right now hahaha" then break something and fail school are not the majority.

Plus I have a feeling that the majority of commercially grown pot will be hydroponic. I'm more of a bush weed guy myself ;D

Not necessarily because you can re-use soil and you get a less chemical taste with soil. Not to mention start-up costs are going to be much more for that, and so will running costs

At 11/2/10 07:23 PM, Envy wrote: Everyone enjoys weed from time to time.

I don't enjoy it.

Prop 19

lawl
Drug dealer says NO to Prop 19

At 11/2/10 07:36 PM, Alfraydo wrote: Prop 19

lawl
Drug dealer says NO to Prop 19

I didn't even click on the link and I already knew why they voted that way. Now people will probably be able to get it much easier, eliminating/down grading the middle man (the drug dealer in this case) so they will lose quite a lot of money.

i try to remain neutral to all music, but i just can't with bro-step. y'all wubstep dudes should listen to some good dubstep for a change.

At 11/2/10 07:36 PM, Alfraydo wrote: Prop 19

lawl
Drug dealer says NO to Prop 19

why wouldn't they. They essentially lose business... If he voted yes it's like him saying "yeah I don't want to make any money"

At 11/2/10 08:28 PM, Chronamut wrote: thats a lot of fucking percent!

I'll cut your fucking face off stoner!

I looked up the word decriminalization.. In a book. Decriminalization means like.. uncriminalization like.. Not criminal.

Fuck, I laughed so hard at that.

Proposition 19

will eradicate stoner culture. In the same way legalizing alcohol eradicated speak-easy culture.

It will no longer be edgy or cool to smoke pot once its legal, just something in life that is enjoyable to do. such as consensual sex between two males.

pleasure is good, and whatever shithead fucktard tries to tell you you cant have pleasure needs to worry about why their life is so miserable they think everyone needs to restrict pleasure.

Life is short. we will all be 6 feet under the ground within a century or so, so find out what gives you pleasure, an' enjoy yo mother%$#^in life

I couldn't agree with you more, Bjra.

Now my stoner friends will have to find something new to talk about.

Thanks god.

At 11/2/10 11:24 PM, Darkmaster603 wrote: Now my stoner friends will have to find something new to talk about.

Thanks god.

Agree with this. I'm sick of hearing about how high people are and how dank their bud is.

It's like sweet dude... Again. I can only say sweet dude so many times.

At 11/2/10 11:41 PM, Envy wrote: Agree with this. I'm sick of hearing about how high people are and how dank their bud is.

It's like sweet dude... Again. I can only say sweet dude so many times.

Mr. chilldude420x, how many hits does it take to get the center of the schwag?

Pot

I predict a short term swarm of people smoking it all at once, then the craze will die, and it will just become another alcohol, and we would have another thing to look forward to with age lol

Lol it failed. Mexican drug cartels rejoice!

(There were a ton of problems in that bill, honestly.. it could have done more to hurt the movement than help it)

Hopefully it'll eventually come up on a federal ballot with some actual sense put behind it.