At 2/11/15 05:16 AM, Step wrote:
I'm personally not so reluctant to have them in the forum. Over in the art forum, they make their own personal threads to advertise their art, and it goes well for them. They get quick feedback from their fellow forum regs in their own thread, and it also works well as a repository of works in progress and recent art that they've been working on. I think it'd be cool to allow something like this in the audio forum too, given some limitations such as:
1.) Restrict your music all to one thread, entitled something like "<YourUsername>'s Music".
2.) Keep the focus on getting feedback, so post works in progress and actively ask for opinions.
3.) Introduce yourself and your music in the opening post of the thread, and append context to each piece of music you post in your thread (like "this is my first attempt at X genre" or "a score I'm working on for Y's animation"). My point is, don't be a nobody who tries to exploit the forum as a means to spam links and advertise.
That's just what I think. Will it work as well over here as it does in the art forum? Visual art takes just a glance for you to form an opinion out of it, whereas music takes a whole listen. Will this deter people from going out of their way to giving feedback? Maybe, maybe not. But do I think we should give it a shot? Yes. One of the major advantages of this method over the traditional method of just posting your music to the Audio Portal and getting reviews is that a forum promotes discussion, whilst the discussion in the review system stops at the artist's response. So yeah, despite my doubts, I think it's worth trying it out. Just my two cents.
I really like the concept of using your own thread as a portfolio and discussing area. I actually can not say how this system would work out in the Audio Forum either. These thread are mostly made only by people who actually are looking for constructive criticism rather than 5-star votes, as opposed to some of the threads in the Audio Forum.
If we'd implement this idea (and also clearly discourage plain 'plz review' threads) I think it would work well because this would only attract artists that actually are really dedicated to making music, because nobody is waiting for portfolios that are half-assed and get abandoned after a while. On the other hand, I can imagine that some newbies might be thinking 'heh, i can do diz too', resulting in a ton of threads with submissions made with the standard 'kick-hat-snare-clap' samples. Not that there's anything wrong with those submissions, because yeah, these kids still need to find their way into the world of composing and producing, but it's not something you might want your portfolio to start with, right?
Still, before we would suggest a system like this, I still feel like the rules should clearly state that self-advertisement threads are not tolerated. They're annoying, and people making these threads have an advantage over users that don't visit the forum or just nicely post their link in the appropriate thread. Of course, we could erase this unwritten rule and just tolerate it, but then there's still my first complaint >> they're annoying.
So yeah, I dunno...if everybody would keep themselves to the rules you posted (and especially rule 3) this could work. But I can't say if that's gonna happpen.
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