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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-14 18:10:21 Reply

At 12/14/12 05:37 PM, LiquidOoze wrote: If I'd call my bedroom my studio, then no. I mix on headphones only so I don't care about acoustics *braces for comments on how to mix properly*

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-14 18:20:40 Reply

Studio treatment

I've got a pretty tiny room that holds my desk and computer, and it's pretty awful to mix in. At I guess about 120Hz, the bass resonates ridiculously, so if I'd do any real mixing on speakers, I'd end up with a pretty big gap in there. I'm not currently into music production that much to warrant spending anything on treating the room though; and if I was, I doubt there's a lot to salvage from this space.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-14 18:27:06 Reply

At 12/14/12 06:20 PM, Mich wrote: Studio treatment

Know any friends that work in a retail outlet and may have access to packing foam?

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-14 19:29:05 Reply

At 12/14/12 06:10 PM, Back-From-Purgatory wrote:
At 12/14/12 05:37 PM, LiquidOoze wrote: If I'd call my bedroom my studio, then no. I mix on headphones only so I don't care about acoustics *braces for comments on how to mix properly*
newb! u at leest yuuz skullcandies? pros only yuuz skullcandies!

bitch plz, u must uze beatz by dre

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-14 20:29:43 Reply

Update

Fuck you guys.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-14 20:33:35 Reply

At 12/14/12 08:29 PM, loansindi wrote: Update

Fuck you guys.

Where the fuck have you been?

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-14 20:34:11 Reply

At 12/14/12 08:33 PM, BrokenDeck wrote:
At 12/14/12 08:29 PM, loansindi wrote: Update

Fuck you guys.
Where the fuck have you been?

he's been in his hole


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At 12/14/12 08:33 PM, BrokenDeck wrote:
At 12/14/12 08:29 PM, loansindi wrote: Update

Fuck you guys.
Where the fuck have you been?

Oh you know. On tour, then in Massachusetts. I just moved to Chicago permanent-like. Now I live in the suburbs and commute like some fucking corporate drone to a job where I get to swear and make noise (unlike a corporate drone) .

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At 12/14/12 08:35 PM, loansindi wrote: a job where I get to swear and make noise (unlike a corporate drone) .

Up until a month or so ago I worked in a mechanic shop so I got to do that as well. It's awesome isn't it?

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At 12/14/12 08:29 PM, loansindi wrote: Update

Fuck you guys.

no u.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-15 01:44:28 Reply

I love Dream (Part Two) so much that I picked up the guitar for the first time in months just to learn it.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-15 02:04:22 Reply

At 12/14/12 05:27 PM, The-iMortal wrote: On another topic, has anybody here acoustically treated their studio?

I work with reps from Auralex & Dual Acoustics man. That's one of my fortes. You looking to buy, build, or just get advice?

At 12/14/12 08:35 PM, loansindi wrote: I just moved to Chicago permanent-like.

Bro, get outta my city bro.

West side story bro.

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At 12/15/12 01:44 AM, The-iMortal wrote: I love Dream (Part Two) so much that I picked up the guitar for the first time in months just to learn it.

D'awww shucks....


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-15 02:23:32 Reply

Just Bought Audio Technica ATH-M50s, Anyone else had these? whats your opinion.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-15 02:23:54 Reply

At 12/15/12 02:23 AM, krssvr wrote: Just Bought Audio Technica ATH-M50s, Anyone else had these? whats your opinion.

headphones give me ear fatigue...


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At 12/15/12 02:23 AM, Sequenced wrote:
At 12/15/12 02:23 AM, krssvr wrote: Just Bought Audio Technica ATH-M50s, Anyone else had these? whats your opinion.
headphones give me ear fatigue...

your ears are pansies


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-15 02:58:33 Reply

At 12/15/12 02:04 AM, Breed wrote:
At 12/14/12 05:27 PM, The-iMortal wrote: On another topic, has anybody here acoustically treated their studio?
I work with reps from Auralex & Dual Acoustics man. That's one of my fortes. You looking to buy, build, or just get advice?

If I had the money, I'd be looking to buy, but I have asked the parents to get me some acoustic treatment for Christmas if they can find some good deals. I recommended some bass traps, as these seem to be cheaper, and the main reason I want acoustic treatment is to create "one-note-bass".

I wouldn't mind some advice, as I really have no idea when it comes to acoustic foams. Here is a quickly done blueprint of my bedroom. Tips?

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At 12/15/12 02:58 AM, The-iMortal wrote: Here is a quickly done blueprint of my bedroom.

Bleh.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-15 10:33:58 Reply

At 12/14/12 06:10 PM, Back-From-Purgatory wrote:
At 12/14/12 05:37 PM, LiquidOoze wrote: If I'd call my bedroom my studio, then no. I mix on headphones only so I don't care about acoustics *braces for comments on how to mix properly*
newb! u at leest yuuz skullcandies? pros only yuuz skullcandies!

I use Shure SRH440 headphones, no worries.

I-Mortal, why don't you and your gf sleep in the same bed? :P


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-15 10:57:25 Reply

At 12/15/12 10:33 AM, LiquidOoze wrote: I-Mortal, why don't you and your gf sleep in the same bed? :P
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I don't think he sleeps with his gf. He has trouble getting up.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-15 12:43:08 Reply

Well first important thing is getting the desk in a better place. You want the desk to be centered on one of the walls. Next thing is to get your monitors pointed at you and not lined up straight with the desk. Your ears should create a perfect equilateral triangle with the speakers. This alone will give you a more accurate sound.

What I added in is an ideal way to start acoustic treatment in a room, but there is some stuff i couldnt add because its 2d. You also want to cover first reflections on the ceiling. Also, since the back wall is brick, you may want to consider adding a few extra back absorbers so as to kill that wall just a bit more. Although killing the sound in the room isnt the goal, but brick is particularly reflective.

There's also the chance that the door and window might be right where your first side reflections are, so you may have to be sneaky about that one. For windows....well personally I'd cover the window just like its a wall, but for more aesthetically pleasing of a look, you could build something that could hang there over the window whenever you want it to. The door....yes that needs foam on it if its in the way....but again it may be a bit strange looking.

The bass traps are misleading to many. The mistake I see a lot of people make is putting the bass traps wayyyy up in the top corner, but you actually benefit more from it being treated more like a first corner reflection. This means that it will be at speaker height in the corner. You also may need more 4 bass traps. In that case, I suggest putting them somewhere else and not just stacking them in the corner. Just always make sure its a reflection point. Meaning that if you put a mirror there and sat in your chair like you were gonna do a mixdown, you could see the speaker in the mirror (for corners you need two mirrors).

Buying foam is pretty expensive, so don't get too excited unless you have about 500 bucks to drop on a roominators kit or something. Building is not a bad idea, but you have to do some research as to what material is ideal, and you have to know a thing or two about carpentry.

Oh and I didnt even get into soundproofing or diffusion. Those are usually more time consuming or money consuming additional benefits. Same with power conditioners which are like surge protectors that are designed for sound people. Believe it or not, but a regular surge protector creates a good amount of noise.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-15 12:59:16 Reply

At 12/15/12 12:44 PM, Breed wrote: oh right.....the picture.

I need money to do that.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-15 13:32:20 Reply

My room is pretty much a no-go when it comes to acoustics. First of all it's not even square-like, and the ceiling part above the right side of my bed isn't horizontal but descends in a 45 degree angle. All my walls are plastered though, which is a pro I think.
Also that cut-off top left corner just fucks it up even more.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-15 13:33:44 Reply

At 12/15/12 02:23 AM, krssvr wrote: Just Bought Audio Technica ATH-M50s, Anyone else had these? whats your opinion.

They've been my 1-size-fits-all (studio, homework, walking around...) headphones for the past year or two. I love em. Good build quality, solid detail in the mids and highs. They're a bit bass-heavy, but that's okay (especially when compared to the tragically-lacking-in-bass HD280Pros).

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-15 13:44:52 Reply

At 12/15/12 01:32 PM, LiquidOoze wrote: My room is pretty much a no-go when it comes to acoustics. First of all it's not even square-like, and the ceiling part above the right side of my bed isn't horizontal but descends in a 45 degree angle. All my walls are plastered though, which is a pro I think.
Also that cut-off top left corner just fucks it up even more.

Its not a no-go, but it does suck for sake of ease in treating. You can still attack the first reflections, its just that they are going to be in weird places and look weird. The biggest problem with the room will probably be coupling, but thats definitely treatable. Having a perfectly square room makes things symmetric, easy to treat, and overall nice looking, but that doesnt neccesarily mean awesome sound. Your room already has some natural diffusion to it, in its own unique way. Thats not bad, just different. Nobodies room is ideal brah.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-15 16:44:34 Reply

At 12/15/12 10:33 AM, LiquidOoze wrote: I-Mortal, why don't you and your gf sleep in the same bed? :P

I livez at home with bros.

At 12/15/12 12:43 PM, Breed wrote: Well first important thing is getting the desk in a better place. You want the desk to be centered on one of the walls...

Cheers for these tips! Unfortunately, both beds are too big to re-arrange in the room like the picture you posted, and the desk position is at the best position I can get it at. I will keep the tips in mind for those bass traps!

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-15 17:22:07 Reply

Back from the US. What did I miss?

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-15 17:30:21 Reply

So, I'm still around. Yup. Just been working on my album, writing/practicing bass for the folk thrash metal band, taking care of my daughter, playing video games and what not. It was actually slightly difficult writing bass for thrash metal since I'd never done it before, but soon realized the macinations of thrash and got down to writing thrashy bass tunes.

The thrash that thrashed my thrashing thrasher.

In any case, my album is all mastered and done to the farthest I can/felt like going. It came to a total of ten songs and I have the album art being worked on. I'm aiming for a December release and I'll post it here in the forum when it's all done.

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Look, I'm a friggan hillbilly who lived in a forested valley with the closest populous being Amish my entire life until this year and I generally hate honey and Anheuser-Busch/Coors/Miller, am not an avid whiskey drinker and I don't constantly think about the opposite sex! This music isn't real country and western! It's written, performed and listened to by city and town folk who think they're country! I just want to slam a Waylon Jennings album over their heads and tell them how they forced me to do it! In fact, I don't think Johnny Cash died because of his wife's death. I think he saw this shit coming and got the fuck out!


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So I was looking at one of the locked advertisement threads, and I found some guy advertising this:

http://www.beatport.com/release/sync/997624

WTF! A 13-year-old produced that??? Kid's gonna be freakin' huge...