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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-05 17:23:35 Reply

Studying and shit

In September i started a new study. Because i wanted to be a teacher and i thought i would enjoy it and stuff.
Now i'm starting to realize it isn't for me.. well, i think so. I'm still doubting.
I'm an intern 1 day a week and i get to give lessons to 11/12 year old kids at an elementary school.
Being at that school and interacting with the kids and stuff is quite fun sometimes. But the actual teaching..

At first i really had to get used to it. Of course. It's weird to suddenly change roles from student to teacher.
But now that i've given enough lessons to see past that.. i still don't enjoy it like i thought i would. Is this what i'd want to do for the rest of my life?
But if i quit this study.. it'll be the 3rd study i quit. What the fuck am i supposed to do? Begin another study without having the slightest clue what i want with my life? Get a job with bad pay and stay stuck in it?

I wish i really enjoyed teaching. It would be so much easier. But i have to give a lesson tomorrow and i already look up to it.

Why does every big decision i make turn out to be a bad one? What will i do with my life?
Next week is intern-week (being an intern every day of the week, giving a lot of lessons). I guess i'll ride that out and decide afterwards if i am still thinking so negatively about my current study.
Blegh.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-05 17:50:31 Reply

At 12/5/12 05:23 PM, FairSquare wrote: Next week is intern-week (being an intern every day of the week, giving a lot of lessons). I guess i'll ride that out and decide afterwards if i am still thinking so negatively about my current study.

Studying is not for everyone. Perhaps you would like more hands-on work? Though, I guess your current situation involves actual teaching as well as study...

Anyway, getting used to this new Soundcloud redesign. I think it's really good. Updates pop-up so you can see if somebody liked your track without having to refresh pages or even look at your profile, you can keep a track playing while browsing Soundcloud (kinda like Beatport), and can pause with spacebar, rewind and fast-forward with arrow keys, plus more hotkeys.

I think they did a good job. I do notice some small glitches here and there, but that's always going to happen when something new is launched.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-05 18:14:52 Reply

As much as I don't like fl studio (it's has the name loop in it. I hate the use of pre-made loops), I can't actually hate fl studio. A lot of musicians I respect make good and original music with it. It all depends on how you use it. Besides fl studio supports vst plugins. Some people only use only plugins, and spend thousands of dolars on them. All of the sound comes from the plugins, not the DAW. It doesn't matter which DAW you use. As long as you can do the mixing. You can even use a more advanced program to do your mastering (like soundforge) after you made a bounce in fl studio. Of course with the right plugins mastering in fl studio can also become pretty advanced.


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At 12/5/12 06:14 PM, SourJovis wrote: As much as I don't like fl studio (it's has the name loop in it. I hate the use of pre-made loops), I can't actually hate fl studio. A lot of musicians I respect make good and original music with it. It all depends on how you use it. Besides fl studio supports vst plugins. Some people only use only plugins, and spend thousands of dolars on them. All of the sound comes from the plugins, not the DAW. It doesn't matter which DAW you use. As long as you can do the mixing. You can even use a more advanced program to do your mastering (like soundforge) after you made a bounce in fl studio. Of course with the right plugins mastering in fl studio can also become pretty advanced.

right, but here's an interesting fact. The DAW -does- make a difference in how the final product sounds. There have been numerous tests by users who have rendered even simple wav files through various DAWs using the same effects with the same presets and the sound comes out different. Not like HOLY SHIT WTF IS DIS EVEN DEH SAME SOUND?! different but noticeably so.

Every DAW renders things slightly differently. I mean if you turn off the circular panning law (is that what that was called?) in FL, suddenly everything goes to high heaven crap. Some people like to start their project with that off which is a preference but still the point stands.

But for the most part I could not agree more. While each DAW is slightly different the end game is if you know your shit you're going to make that song sound fantastic either way.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-05 20:56:51 Reply

At 12/5/12 06:32 PM, MaestroRage wrote:
At 12/5/12 06:14 PM, SourJovis wrote: As much as I don't like fl studio (it's has the name loop in it. I hate the use of pre-made loops), I can't actually hate fl studio. A lot of musicians I respect make good and original music with it. It all depends on how you use it. Besides fl studio supports vst plugins. Some people only use only plugins, and spend thousands of dolars on them. All of the sound comes from the plugins, not the DAW. It doesn't matter which DAW you use. As long as you can do the mixing. You can even use a more advanced program to do your mastering (like soundforge) after you made a bounce in fl studio. Of course with the right plugins mastering in fl studio can also become pretty advanced.
right, but here's an interesting fact. The DAW -does- make a difference in how the final product sounds. There have been numerous tests by users who have rendered even simple wav files through various DAWs using the same effects with the same presets and the sound comes out different. Not like HOLY SHIT WTF IS DIS EVEN DEH SAME SOUND?! different but noticeably so.

Every DAW renders things slightly differently. I mean if you turn off the circular panning law (is that what that was called?) in FL, suddenly everything goes to high heaven crap. Some people like to start their project with that off which is a preference but still the point stands.

But for the most part I could not agree more. While each DAW is slightly different the end game is if you know your shit you're going to make that song sound fantastic either way.

Generally a DAW should render neutrally, without artefacts. Any rendering effects like dithering, stereo-enhancements or whatever should be optional. I know some DAWs automatically dither when you render with low bit depth, or they standardly atribute other effects to enhance the audio, but usually you can select as well not to do this. The differences of how a DAW renders still just depends on how you use it. If a DAW doesn't give you full control over how your mix turns out, it's really bad imao.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-05 22:23:43 Reply

At 12/5/12 08:56 PM, SourJovis wrote: If a DAW doesn't give you full control over how your mix turns out, it's really bad imao.

true :3

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-05 22:24:52 Reply

At 12/5/12 10:23 PM, MaestroRage wrote:
At 12/5/12 08:56 PM, SourJovis wrote: If a DAW doesn't give you full control over how your mix turns out, it's really bad imao.
true :3

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-05 23:58:48 Reply

At 12/5/12 10:24 PM, Sequenced wrote:
At 12/5/12 10:23 PM, MaestroRage wrote:
At 12/5/12 08:56 PM, SourJovis wrote: If a DAW doesn't give you full control over how your mix turns out, it's really bad imao.
true :3
you're back

or... did I never leave?!!?!!?

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 00:18:25 Reply

At 12/5/12 11:58 PM, MaestroRage wrote:
or... did I never leave?!!?!!?

hai i'm back :3

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 02:18:21 Reply

At 12/5/12 06:32 PM, MaestroRage wrote: Every DAW renders things slightly differently.

I haven't tested this myself but I've heard it from trustworthy people. I don't think it's something to really worry about though.
There's a more noticeable difference between DAWs and it's how they manage track delays and that stuff. Like, in FL if you put two snares together and one of them has a compressor on it, it will sound slightly after the other one, which totally changes the final sound. Bearing this in mind is rather important imo. What i do is simply compressing the other one too using 1:1 radio (which does nothing, but in the end both snares sound at the same time)


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 03:55:06 Reply

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXLL46xkdlY

Things like this make me feel worthless lol.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 04:09:13 Reply

At 12/6/12 03:55 AM, Tabu112 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXLL46xkdlY

Things like this make me feel worthless lol.

well, maybe you have talents that the guy doesn't have? :)

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 07:28:18 Reply

At 12/6/12 03:55 AM, Tabu112 wrote: Things like this make me feel worthless lol.

That was pretty sick.

Btw, does anyone know if Push will have same capabilities Launchpad? I don't own Launchpad, but Push looks like it can achieve the same thing. May be wrong though.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 08:06:11 Reply

At 12/6/12 03:55 AM, Tabu112 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXLL46xkdlY

Things like this make me feel worthless lol.

I don't get why people do this kind of stuff. All they do is assign sounds to buttons and spend a shitload of time practicing the sequence in which they have to press them, only to show off to us. Of course it sounds amazing, but it would sound just as amazing if you'd just throw all those sounds in a playlist and render the whole damn thing. The only difference would probably be that the 'live' version sounds more 'natural' because not every button-press is smack-dap on the beat.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 08:16:08 Reply

At 12/6/12 08:06 AM, LiquidOoze wrote: I don't get why people do this kind of stuff. All they do is assign sounds to buttons and spend a shitload of time practicing the sequence in which they have to press them, only to show off to us.

That's the point! To show off! It looks freakin' sick, the audience on Youtube LOVES it, and I bet it's fun achieving it, even if the sonic result is the same.

I mean, it's like saying, "what's the point of live DJ'ing if you can just map it before the show? Sounds just as good."

Live performance always adds extra brownie points.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 11:10:48 Reply

At 12/6/12 08:16 AM, The-iMortal wrote:
At 12/6/12 08:06 AM, LiquidOoze wrote: I don't get why people do this kind of stuff. All they do is assign sounds to buttons and spend a shitload of time practicing the sequence in which they have to press them, only to show off to us.
That's the point! To show off! It looks freakin' sick, the audience on Youtube LOVES it, and I bet it's fun achieving it, even if the sonic result is the same.

I mean, it's like saying, "what's the point of live DJ'ing if you can just map it before the show? Sounds just as good."

Live performance always adds extra brownie points.

pretty much this

also i'm sure there is room for spontaneity

i wish i was focused and dedicated enough to put together sick routines like this

(also im pretty sure that ableton quantizes on the fly so all the triggering should be pretty much on point)


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 11:15:57 Reply

At 12/6/12 11:10 AM, jarrydn wrote: pretty much this

also i'm sure there is room for spontaneity

i wish i was focused and dedicated enough to put together sick routines like this

(also im pretty sure that ableton quantizes on the fly so all the triggering should be pretty much on point)

Yeah you're probably right, in this way you can arrange the song in any way you want.
Also, Ableton doesn't quantize on the fly as you can tell from this vid.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 11:20:51 Reply

At 12/6/12 11:15 AM, LiquidOoze wrote: Yeah you're probably right, in this way you can arrange the song in any way you want.
Also, Ableton doesn't quantize on the fly as you can tell from this vid.

the video won't load, but i did some quick googling and clip launching can be quantized.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 11:36:41 Reply

At 12/5/12 05:23 PM, FairSquare wrote: rant

I'm in a similar position of not really knowing what I want to do or where to go from here, but I can say that you've got a lot of time ahead of you to figure it out. Don't get frustrated because you can't get yourself going in the right direction right away. A lot of exceptional people in history didn't find their true calling until later in life. Try new things when you can, and if one thing in particular seems to stay with you then explore it.

at least that's what I keep telling myself
At 12/6/12 03:55 AM, Tabu112 wrote: Things like this make me feel worthless lol.

This is awesome. Now I'm stuck watching these videos. Thanks man...

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 13:24:58 Reply

At 12/6/12 11:20 AM, jarrydn wrote: the video won't load, but i did some quick googling and clip launching can be quantized.

yeah, and it's very easy

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 13:35:35 Reply

At 12/6/12 01:24 PM, garlagan wrote:
At 12/6/12 11:20 AM, jarrydn wrote: the video won't load, but i did some quick googling and clip launching can be quantized.
yeah, and it's very easy

im more and more considering giving ableton a proper go.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 15:12:13 Reply

At 12/6/12 01:35 PM, jarrydn wrote: im more and more considering giving ableton a proper go.

yeah man you should. i'm still using FL for production but Ableton lets ideas flow in quite an interesting way when you're not so inspired. also, playing live using Ableton is really cool. here's a great example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONPRJIx_EfE
the only 'bad' thing is you need to spend a lot of time adjusting your tracks, but it really pays off in the end. you can jump from track to track very very easily and make mashups on the fly and stuff like that
now let's wait for someone to bash the sync function

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 17:25:50 Reply

Meh. Abletons work flow is rather slow unless you're using controllers. It's got a tiny little screen for adding midi notes thats an eyesore to use and you cant adapt it for intelligent use across multiple screens. A few simple GUI edits and It would be the shit. I got a chance to talk to a rep from ableton at my work and he said their focus is more on implementing live and controller functionality rather than adapting it to a wider typology of musicians. That got me pretty turned off from it.

I will say though, if you are look to make dance music with a controller and DJ, then its perfect as fuck.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 20:05:27 Reply

Why does my work ethic suck ass? :'(


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 21:15:25 Reply

At 12/6/12 08:16 AM, The-iMortal wrote:
At 12/6/12 08:06 AM, LiquidOoze wrote: I don't get why people do this kind of stuff. All they do is assign sounds to buttons and spend a shitload of time practicing the sequence in which they have to press them, only to show off to us.
That's the point! To show off! It looks freakin' sick, the audience on Youtube LOVES it, and I bet it's fun achieving it, even if the sonic result is the same.

I mean, it's like saying, "what's the point of live DJ'ing if you can just map it before the show? Sounds just as good."

Live performance always adds extra brownie points.

I would also like to point out that you can instantly remix your song and make it longer or shorter. It's just full of win.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 21:17:15 Reply

At 12/6/12 08:05 PM, Sequenced wrote: Why does my work ethic suck ass? :'(

Perhaps you don't consider the work you're doing to be important or valuable at all. If you see homework as a chore, you'll treat it like a chore: you'll hate doing it and you'll be unhappy.

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At 12/6/12 03:12 PM, garlagan wrote:
At 12/6/12 01:35 PM, jarrydn wrote:

I would honestly love to switch from fl to live. I just find the mixer and sequencer to be awkward. I would ofcorse still use fl for the drum sequencing.

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At 12/6/12 09:17 PM, Nav wrote:
At 12/6/12 08:05 PM, Sequenced wrote: Why does my work ethic suck ass? :'(
Perhaps you don't consider the work you're doing to be important or valuable at all. If you see homework as a chore, you'll treat it like a chore: you'll hate doing it and you'll be unhappy.

that pretty much sums it up.

I want to do well - but homework just pisses me off. I wish I could just learn by going to class and not worrying about tests or homework.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 21:32:13 Reply

At 12/6/12 09:25 PM, Sequenced wrote: I want to do well - but homework just pisses me off. I wish I could just learn by going to class and not worrying about tests or homework.

Spot on.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 21:46:26 Reply

At 12/6/12 09:32 PM, Yoshiii343 wrote:
At 12/6/12 09:25 PM, Sequenced wrote: I want to do well - but homework just pisses me off. I wish I could just learn by going to class and not worrying about tests or homework.
Spot on.

the thing is. if you didn't have to go to class to learn for tests and do homework, would you ACTUALLY go to class?