At 11/10/12 10:06 PM, guitarmandan wrote:
Yes, thats the one. I did a harmonic and melodic analysis of the two songs and its pretty creepy how similar they are. I agree with what you said though... but I suppose there is no way to really prove if it was direct copyright infringement or a happy coincidence... but theres a part of me that still believes it is just TOO close for comfort to be a coincidence... in music you pretty much have three aspects: Rhythm, Melody and Harmony... La Vida is like a 95% match on all three... except its in a different key. The tempo and rhythm are exactly the same, the chord progression is the same... the melody is about 95% the same... the only major difference is key and we all know how that stuff works.
Apologies for the lengthy response.
You never know for sure that's true. It might be infringement. Still I think it isn't... Like you said there are a lot similarities. However, all of them can be explained by common song writing "rules".
The difference in key doesnâEUTMt say anything. That's true. If you play a song in a different key it's still the same song. But the same can be said about the tempo. It's still the same song, whether you play it fast or slow. So the fact that the tempo is almost (Viva La Vida being slightly faster than I Wish I Could Fly) the same, doesn't mean anything.
The chord progression is almost the same that's a good point. Viva La Vida has a basic VI VII III i scheme, while I Wish I Could Fly is an interesting variation on that scheme. Both schemes share 11/14 to 10/12 notes depending how you look at it. However the VI VII III i scheme is extremely common. Even Never Gona Give You Up has more or less the same chord progression (Fmaj7 G Em Am this is VI VII V i. So a V instead of a III, but those chords share 2 out of 3 notes so the scheme of NGGUU has 10/12 tones the same as La Vida, just like I Wish). There are a lot of songs sharing the same chord progression.
As far as the melody goes. The first three notes of I Wish I Could Fly are the same as the three notes of the verses of Viva La Vida after the anacrusis, but the rest of the melody is totally different. The melodies are up to 50% the same at the worst parts, though much less over the scope of the entire songs. Less than 20% I estimate. ThatâEUTMs a small number since there are only so much tones to choose from and there is a bias towards certain tones based on key, chord progression and rhythm.
At first glance both songs seem to have a similar rhythm. Both with a certain swing. That in itself isn't uncommon. When you play one song over the other, you hear it just doesn't sound right. On closer inspection there are several differences in rhythm.
I'm not even talking about the differences between the songs. The lyrics, the instrumentation, the mood, the style, the theme, etc. These things count too.
It's difficult to express similarities in percentages, but if I have to put numbers on it:
Chord Progression 80%
Overall Feel 20%
That makes a total of 42.5%. YouâEUTMd get an average of 20% for comparing two random songs. 80% or more for comparing a song to a shameless copy. 42.5% would be an unfortunate coincidence. Apparently enough to cause a stir.