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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 07:28:18 Reply

At 12/6/12 03:55 AM, Tabu112 wrote: Things like this make me feel worthless lol.

That was pretty sick.

Btw, does anyone know if Push will have same capabilities Launchpad? I don't own Launchpad, but Push looks like it can achieve the same thing. May be wrong though.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 08:06:11 Reply

At 12/6/12 03:55 AM, Tabu112 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXLL46xkdlY

Things like this make me feel worthless lol.

I don't get why people do this kind of stuff. All they do is assign sounds to buttons and spend a shitload of time practicing the sequence in which they have to press them, only to show off to us. Of course it sounds amazing, but it would sound just as amazing if you'd just throw all those sounds in a playlist and render the whole damn thing. The only difference would probably be that the 'live' version sounds more 'natural' because not every button-press is smack-dap on the beat.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 08:16:08 Reply

At 12/6/12 08:06 AM, LiquidOoze wrote: I don't get why people do this kind of stuff. All they do is assign sounds to buttons and spend a shitload of time practicing the sequence in which they have to press them, only to show off to us.

That's the point! To show off! It looks freakin' sick, the audience on Youtube LOVES it, and I bet it's fun achieving it, even if the sonic result is the same.

I mean, it's like saying, "what's the point of live DJ'ing if you can just map it before the show? Sounds just as good."

Live performance always adds extra brownie points.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 11:10:48 Reply

At 12/6/12 08:16 AM, The-iMortal wrote:
At 12/6/12 08:06 AM, LiquidOoze wrote: I don't get why people do this kind of stuff. All they do is assign sounds to buttons and spend a shitload of time practicing the sequence in which they have to press them, only to show off to us.
That's the point! To show off! It looks freakin' sick, the audience on Youtube LOVES it, and I bet it's fun achieving it, even if the sonic result is the same.

I mean, it's like saying, "what's the point of live DJ'ing if you can just map it before the show? Sounds just as good."

Live performance always adds extra brownie points.

pretty much this

also i'm sure there is room for spontaneity

i wish i was focused and dedicated enough to put together sick routines like this

(also im pretty sure that ableton quantizes on the fly so all the triggering should be pretty much on point)

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 11:15:57 Reply

At 12/6/12 11:10 AM, jarrydn wrote: pretty much this

also i'm sure there is room for spontaneity

i wish i was focused and dedicated enough to put together sick routines like this

(also im pretty sure that ableton quantizes on the fly so all the triggering should be pretty much on point)

Yeah you're probably right, in this way you can arrange the song in any way you want.
Also, Ableton doesn't quantize on the fly as you can tell from this vid.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 11:20:51 Reply

At 12/6/12 11:15 AM, LiquidOoze wrote: Yeah you're probably right, in this way you can arrange the song in any way you want.
Also, Ableton doesn't quantize on the fly as you can tell from this vid.

the video won't load, but i did some quick googling and clip launching can be quantized.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 11:36:41 Reply

At 12/5/12 05:23 PM, FairSquare wrote: rant

I'm in a similar position of not really knowing what I want to do or where to go from here, but I can say that you've got a lot of time ahead of you to figure it out. Don't get frustrated because you can't get yourself going in the right direction right away. A lot of exceptional people in history didn't find their true calling until later in life. Try new things when you can, and if one thing in particular seems to stay with you then explore it.

at least that's what I keep telling myself
At 12/6/12 03:55 AM, Tabu112 wrote: Things like this make me feel worthless lol.

This is awesome. Now I'm stuck watching these videos. Thanks man...

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 13:24:58 Reply

At 12/6/12 11:20 AM, jarrydn wrote: the video won't load, but i did some quick googling and clip launching can be quantized.

yeah, and it's very easy

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 13:35:35 Reply

At 12/6/12 01:24 PM, garlagan wrote:
At 12/6/12 11:20 AM, jarrydn wrote: the video won't load, but i did some quick googling and clip launching can be quantized.
yeah, and it's very easy

im more and more considering giving ableton a proper go.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 15:12:13 Reply

At 12/6/12 01:35 PM, jarrydn wrote: im more and more considering giving ableton a proper go.

yeah man you should. i'm still using FL for production but Ableton lets ideas flow in quite an interesting way when you're not so inspired. also, playing live using Ableton is really cool. here's a great example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONPRJIx_EfE
the only 'bad' thing is you need to spend a lot of time adjusting your tracks, but it really pays off in the end. you can jump from track to track very very easily and make mashups on the fly and stuff like that
now let's wait for someone to bash the sync function

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 17:25:50 Reply

Meh. Abletons work flow is rather slow unless you're using controllers. It's got a tiny little screen for adding midi notes thats an eyesore to use and you cant adapt it for intelligent use across multiple screens. A few simple GUI edits and It would be the shit. I got a chance to talk to a rep from ableton at my work and he said their focus is more on implementing live and controller functionality rather than adapting it to a wider typology of musicians. That got me pretty turned off from it.

I will say though, if you are look to make dance music with a controller and DJ, then its perfect as fuck.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 20:05:27 Reply

Why does my work ethic suck ass? :'(


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 21:15:25 Reply

At 12/6/12 08:16 AM, The-iMortal wrote:
At 12/6/12 08:06 AM, LiquidOoze wrote: I don't get why people do this kind of stuff. All they do is assign sounds to buttons and spend a shitload of time practicing the sequence in which they have to press them, only to show off to us.
That's the point! To show off! It looks freakin' sick, the audience on Youtube LOVES it, and I bet it's fun achieving it, even if the sonic result is the same.

I mean, it's like saying, "what's the point of live DJ'ing if you can just map it before the show? Sounds just as good."

Live performance always adds extra brownie points.

I would also like to point out that you can instantly remix your song and make it longer or shorter. It's just full of win.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 21:17:15 Reply

At 12/6/12 08:05 PM, Sequenced wrote: Why does my work ethic suck ass? :'(

Perhaps you don't consider the work you're doing to be important or valuable at all. If you see homework as a chore, you'll treat it like a chore: you'll hate doing it and you'll be unhappy.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 21:20:33 Reply

At 12/6/12 03:12 PM, garlagan wrote:
At 12/6/12 01:35 PM, jarrydn wrote:

I would honestly love to switch from fl to live. I just find the mixer and sequencer to be awkward. I would ofcorse still use fl for the drum sequencing.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 21:25:14 Reply

At 12/6/12 09:17 PM, Nav wrote:
At 12/6/12 08:05 PM, Sequenced wrote: Why does my work ethic suck ass? :'(
Perhaps you don't consider the work you're doing to be important or valuable at all. If you see homework as a chore, you'll treat it like a chore: you'll hate doing it and you'll be unhappy.

that pretty much sums it up.

I want to do well - but homework just pisses me off. I wish I could just learn by going to class and not worrying about tests or homework.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 21:32:13 Reply

At 12/6/12 09:25 PM, Sequenced wrote: I want to do well - but homework just pisses me off. I wish I could just learn by going to class and not worrying about tests or homework.

Spot on.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 21:46:26 Reply

At 12/6/12 09:32 PM, Yoshiii343 wrote:
At 12/6/12 09:25 PM, Sequenced wrote: I want to do well - but homework just pisses me off. I wish I could just learn by going to class and not worrying about tests or homework.
Spot on.

the thing is. if you didn't have to go to class to learn for tests and do homework, would you ACTUALLY go to class?

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 21:47:05 Reply

At 12/6/12 09:25 PM, Sequenced wrote: I want to do well - but homework just pisses me off. I wish I could just learn by going to class and not worrying about tests or homework.

See, I'm the opposite. I hate lectures, but I love homework and problem sets and labs. I can't get myself to pay attention in lecture, so I do most of my learning via homework.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 21:49:54 Reply

At 12/6/12 09:46 PM, Chronamut wrote:
At 12/6/12 09:32 PM, Yoshiii343 wrote:
At 12/6/12 09:25 PM, Sequenced wrote: I want to do well - but homework just pisses me off. I wish I could just learn by going to class and not worrying about tests or homework.
Spot on.
the thing is. if you didn't have to go to class to learn for tests and do homework, would you ACTUALLY go to class?

If I will get an A for showing up every class, yes. Learning shit just for tests is pointless, because you'll forget it later on.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 21:59:10 Reply

At 12/6/12 09:49 PM, Sequenced wrote: If I will get an A for showing up every class, yes. Learning shit just for tests is pointless, because you'll forget it later on.

if you are learning stuff just for tests then you are learning wrong

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 22:00:56 Reply

At 12/6/12 09:46 PM, Chronamut wrote: the thing is. if you didn't have to go to class to learn for tests and do homework, would you ACTUALLY go to class?

Probably.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 22:44:50 Reply

I'm a firm believer in individual learning.

Colleges and University are businesses first and places of learning second.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 22:52:29 Reply

At 12/6/12 10:44 PM, BrokenDeck wrote: I'm a firm believer in individual learning.

Autodidacticism

Colleges and University are businesses first and places of learning second.

this is sadly 100% true. i think learning comes third but, you could probably squeeze "spreaders of bullshit" in the middle

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-06 23:45:30 Reply

At 12/6/12 10:52 PM, jarrydn wrote:
At 12/6/12 10:44 PM, BrokenDeck wrote: I'm a firm believer in individual learning.
Autodidacticism

Colleges and University are businesses first and places of learning second.
this is sadly 100% true. i think learning comes third but, you could probably squeeze "spreaders of bullshit" in the middle

Very true. That is a pretty accurate way to describe my short experience with college. Took my money... took more of my money... try push me into spending more money for "better learning"... and somewhere in the time I was there, I learned a little bit of stuff I'll never use in the real world.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-07 01:17:28 Reply

although admistration may have money on the mind,

most teachers live to teach lol, not the other way around (teach to live)

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-07 03:02:19 Reply

does anyone else think school is boring and icky?

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At 12/7/12 03:02 AM, Buoy wrote: does anyone else think school is boring and icky?

yes


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-07 03:13:40 Reply

I've personally dropped off from from college for a full year now, and although I have acquired a fare amount of knowledge on my own, the lack of infrastructure and professional insight has really pulled me back in the past few months and have brought me to give school another go, especially considering the exceptionally good program I am now enrolling in and that I had somehow missed on my first try.

Basically, you should see school as a way to seek advice from very reputable people in the industry instead of an endurance run to acquire an often useless degree (when it comes to music, at least), as well as the perfect occasion to build up your contact list, for these people will most likely be the people you'll be working with for the next few decades, unless you move far away from your school.

That's what I got from it, at the very least, we'll see how it goes when I give it another go starting this January.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-12-07 03:40:59 Reply

did you know theres other things in university apart from music.......

things that actually earn MONEY.

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