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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-11 12:00:48 Reply

At 11/11/12 04:11 AM, Sequenced wrote:
At 11/11/12 03:01 AM, BrokenDeck wrote: OMG, I see Envy online...
see him all the time. derptiderp.

the guy's been pretty active for aslong as ever afaik, maybe just lurking more.. used to do that a ton


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-11 14:36:18 Reply

At 11/10/12 09:04 AM, Buoy wrote:
At 11/10/12 08:46 AM, la-yinn wrote: Want some beans with that self pity there, sir?

We don't get illa NO foods, HIGH FIVE MAH BROTHAH
a high five to you fellow members of the superior omnivore race. we must breed, slaughter the filthy sneezing weaklings and create a perfect society

I like to think that I'm an omnomnomnivore... I eat anything and everything lol. My only allergies are environmental fortunately... the changing of the seasons often really sucks, but my life isn't really impeded much by them.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-11 18:59:11 Reply

At 11/10/12 10:06 PM, guitarmandan wrote: Yes, thats the one. I did a harmonic and melodic analysis of the two songs and its pretty creepy how similar they are. I agree with what you said though... but I suppose there is no way to really prove if it was direct copyright infringement or a happy coincidence... but theres a part of me that still believes it is just TOO close for comfort to be a coincidence... in music you pretty much have three aspects: Rhythm, Melody and Harmony... La Vida is like a 95% match on all three... except its in a different key. The tempo and rhythm are exactly the same, the chord progression is the same... the melody is about 95% the same... the only major difference is key and we all know how that stuff works.

Apologies for the lengthy response.

You never know for sure that's true. It might be infringement. Still I think it isn't... Like you said there are a lot similarities. However, all of them can be explained by common song writing "rules".
The difference in key doesnâEUTMt say anything. That's true. If you play a song in a different key it's still the same song. But the same can be said about the tempo. It's still the same song, whether you play it fast or slow. So the fact that the tempo is almost (Viva La Vida being slightly faster than I Wish I Could Fly) the same, doesn't mean anything.
The chord progression is almost the same that's a good point. Viva La Vida has a basic VI VII III i scheme, while I Wish I Could Fly is an interesting variation on that scheme. Both schemes share 11/14 to 10/12 notes depending how you look at it. However the VI VII III i scheme is extremely common. Even Never Gona Give You Up has more or less the same chord progression (Fmaj7 G Em Am this is VI VII V i. So a V instead of a III, but those chords share 2 out of 3 notes so the scheme of NGGUU has 10/12 tones the same as La Vida, just like I Wish). There are a lot of songs sharing the same chord progression.
As far as the melody goes. The first three notes of I Wish I Could Fly are the same as the three notes of the verses of Viva La Vida after the anacrusis, but the rest of the melody is totally different. The melodies are up to 50% the same at the worst parts, though much less over the scope of the entire songs. Less than 20% I estimate. ThatâEUTMs a small number since there are only so much tones to choose from and there is a bias towards certain tones based on key, chord progression and rhythm.
At first glance both songs seem to have a similar rhythm. Both with a certain swing. That in itself isn't uncommon. When you play one song over the other, you hear it just doesn't sound right. On closer inspection there are several differences in rhythm.
I'm not even talking about the differences between the songs. The lyrics, the instrumentation, the mood, the style, the theme, etc. These things count too.

It's difficult to express similarities in percentages, but if I have to put numbers on it:

Chord Progression 80%
Melody 20%
Rhythm 50%
Overall Feel 20%

That makes a total of 42.5%. YouâEUTMd get an average of 20% for comparing two random songs. 80% or more for comparing a song to a shameless copy. 42.5% would be an unfortunate coincidence. Apparently enough to cause a stir.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-11 22:15:55 Reply

Posting from my PS3. Not having a working PC sucks.

Woooooo.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-11 23:25:04 Reply

At 11/11/12 10:15 PM, Back-From-Purgatory wrote: Posting from my PS3. Not having a working PC sucks.

Woooooo.

PC all the waaay bro


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-12 01:48:42 Reply

ancient rucklo found in shipwreck:

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-12 15:40:46 Reply

music
some music is good
literally good, man (3:42)

I wonder how that sounds to foreigners though?

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-12 16:41:00 Reply

You guys are boring. Post nudes.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-12 16:49:57 Reply

says the person who is literally a jellyfish

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-12 16:55:36 Reply

At 11/12/12 04:49 PM, Buoy wrote: says the person who is literally a jellyfish

Float with me for a second here.

Being a lump of stinging pulsing jelly... I don't get a lot of action. I just kind of go where ever the flow takes me. You'd think I'd see some mermaid titties once in a while but no, mermaids don't want to have anything to do with me. They just giggle and swim away from me.

fml

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-12 16:57:03 Reply

At 11/12/12 03:40 PM, Buoy wrote: music
some music is good
literally good, man (3:42)

I wonder how that sounds to foreigners though?

Everyone is a foreigner :) But I'm not Norwegian if that's what you mean, and I don't understand what's said. I like the music anyway. IâEUTMve heard of the Kaizers Orchestra before, but I havenâEUTMt got any of their albums. Thank you for reminding me about them.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-12 20:37:00 Reply

At 11/12/12 04:55 PM, Quarl wrote:
At 11/12/12 04:49 PM, Buoy wrote: says the person who is literally a jellyfish
Float with me for a second here...

IKR, being a broken piece of wood, both halves of me float also

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-12 20:45:04 Reply

At 11/12/12 04:41 PM, Quarl wrote: You guys are boring. Post nudes.

Are cocks good enough for you?
Here's a representation of mine.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-12 21:09:04 Reply

At 11/12/12 08:45 PM, Braiton wrote:
At 11/12/12 04:41 PM, Quarl wrote: You guys are boring. Post nudes.
Are cocks good enough for you?
Here's a representation of mine.

I knew that picture would show up!

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-12 21:45:35 Reply

At 11/12/12 04:41 PM, Quarl wrote: You guys are boring. Post nudes.

I DONT KNOW U


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-12 23:07:49 Reply

At 11/12/12 09:45 PM, Sequenced wrote:
At 11/12/12 04:41 PM, Quarl wrote: You guys are boring. Post nudes.
I DONT KNOW U

oh that makes it so much hotter baby


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-13 02:05:52 Reply

At 11/12/12 11:07 PM, la-yinn wrote:
At 11/12/12 09:45 PM, Sequenced wrote:
At 11/12/12 04:41 PM, Quarl wrote: You guys are boring. Post nudes.
I DONT KNOW U
oh that makes it so much hotter baby

we were like long lost bffs when we met though.

and then we act like it never happened.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-13 08:09:30 Reply

It seems that I didn't miss anything. :P


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-13 13:26:06 Reply

At 11/13/12 08:09 AM, LiquidOoze wrote: It seems that I didn't miss anything. :P

You did, but if you're quick you can still catch a glimpse of the dildofort we all built...

It is glorious. Morning glorious.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-13 14:01:06 Reply

At 11/13/12 01:26 PM, la-yinn wrote:
At 11/13/12 08:09 AM, LiquidOoze wrote: It seems that I didn't miss anything. :P
You did, but if you're quick you can still catch a glimpse of the dildofort we all built...

It is glorious. Morning glorious.

quarl wanted dicks.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-13 16:06:19 Reply

My PC is fucked up

So about a week ago I successfully got rid of the ukash virus, but now some other problems have returned, problems that kinda make my connection to the internet worthless.
First of all, Google Chrome isn't working and I've heard that has something to do with Google Chrome itself so I can't help it. Also sice a few days Internet Explorer has been giving me a runtime error everytime I go to a website that is not Google and no matter how many times I reset it to its default settings it keeps crashing. I've also tried this Microsoft FixIt thing but that didn't help either.
This basically means that I'm depending on Mozilla Firefox at the moment. Right now it's the only browser that lives up to its name (it let's me browse the interwebs) but it's got a shitload of problems as well. First of all, no matter how many times I set Google as my homepage, everytime I open Mozilla it links me to this 'certified-toolbar' thing, which is basically the same as Google but I just find it obnoxious that I can't simply change my homepage. Furthermore, when I used Mozilla for the first time in years again I obviously had to upgrade some of its add-ons, but for some reason my Adobe Shockwave for Director add-on refuses to overwrite its older file with its newer file so I keep getting a message that my version of Shockwave is 'vulnerable'. Last but not least, I DID manage to upgrade Flash Player to its latest version but it still won't work, which in a nutshell means that I can't use Youtube, SoundCloud, Bandcamp and Newgrounds (except for spamming the AFL with stuff like this).
Also I can no longer open files with Windows Media Player and I also can't change any of my computer's security settings like Windows Firewall (which is turned off atm).

Basically I'm just watching my computer die. Luckily FL Studio and all its plugins still work.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-13 17:02:52 Reply

At 11/13/12 04:06 PM, LiquidOoze wrote: Basically I'm just watching my computer die. Luckily FL Studio and all its plugins still work.

The best course of action is to buy an external hard drive, back up all plugins and FL Studio files (and whatever else), and to reformat the main hard drive in your computer. Your computer isn't dying, your hard drive is simply infected with viruses. A reformat will solve everything. I've reformatted my computers around 5 times. It sounds scarier than it is.

You may try to get it fixed, but problems will probably just re-occur. Reformatting is the safest way to make sure your computer is virus free.

Oh, and after you do reformat, make sure you get a quality anti-virus program ASAP. I use Norton, and despite what most people say, it keeps my computer virus-free.

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-13 17:18:30 Reply

At 11/13/12 02:01 PM, Sequenced wrote:
quarl wanted dicks.

maoorrrrrr dickz plox.

On a slightly more serious note, I'm loving California! If anyone missed it I randomly decided to drive across country from new york to room with some random chick. She's out of the picture but I'm getting nice and cozy over here. The place I'm staying at has a piano in the main lobby and everyone in the building plays. It's fricking great. I've been getting so much practice and jamming in.


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-13 18:55:55 Reply

*checks in lounge after two weeks*

*sees chickens*

*leaves*

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-13 18:57:29 Reply

Did somebody say "cock"?

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-13 19:39:48 Reply

At 11/13/12 06:55 PM, FatKidWitAJetPak wrote: *checks in lounge after two weeks*

*sees chickens*

*leaves*

YOU CAN'T JUDGE US YOU QUEER


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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-13 20:00:52 Reply

At 11/13/12 06:55 PM, FatKidWitAJetPak wrote: *checks in lounge after two weeks*

*sees chickens*

*leaves*

olol chicken he said chicken lolol

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Response to The Audio Forum Lounge 2012-11-13 20:08:37 Reply

At 11/13/12 04:06 PM, LiquidOoze wrote: My PC is fucked up

So about a week ago I successfully got rid of the ukash virus, but now some other problems have returned, problems that kinda make my connection to the internet worthless.
First of all, Google Chrome isn't working and I've heard that has something to do with Google Chrome itself so I can't help it. Also sice a few days Internet Explorer has been giving me a runtime error everytime I go to a website that is not Google and no matter how many times I reset it to its default settings it keeps crashing. I've also tried this Microsoft FixIt thing but that didn't help either.
This basically means that I'm depending on Mozilla Firefox at the moment. Right now it's the only browser that lives up to its name (it let's me browse the interwebs) but it's got a shitload of problems as well. First of all, no matter how many times I set Google as my homepage, everytime I open Mozilla it links me to this 'certified-toolbar' thing, which is basically the same as Google but I just find it obnoxious that I can't simply change my homepage. Furthermore, when I used Mozilla for the first time in years again I obviously had to upgrade some of its add-ons, but for some reason my Adobe Shockwave for Director add-on refuses to overwrite its older file with its newer file so I keep getting a message that my version of Shockwave is 'vulnerable'. Last but not least, I DID manage to upgrade Flash Player to its latest version but it still won't work, which in a nutshell means that I can't use Youtube, SoundCloud, Bandcamp and Newgrounds (except for spamming the AFL with stuff like this).
Also I can no longer open files with Windows Media Player and I also can't change any of my computer's security settings like Windows Firewall (which is turned off atm).

Basically I'm just watching my computer die. Luckily FL Studio and all its plugins still work.

That's rough. Your problems are quite common. Too bad they all happen at once on the same computer. I had the Ukash virus some weeks ago too. Took me halve a day to get rid of it. On my parents computer both Chrome and Explorer are broken, and can't be reinstalled. Firefox is the only browser that still works. Same as with you. They too have a problem with flash. Maybe firefox and flash don't work well together. I heard a lot of problems regarding that combination (and real player). What works for my parents is, after they try to reinstall flash, it suddenly works again. They have to do that each time they restart the computer though. And I say try to reinstall, because the installation stops at 50% and gives an error. Still it gives flash just enough of a boost to work again. Maybe this works for you too. Otherwise you could try Oprah. I have no experience with that browser, but I heard some good things. Otherwise you'll have to buy a new computer. But then you have to spend some cash, and days installing all of your programs, with no guarantee everything will work again. Good luck.


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So much wall of text


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