Hail to the Republican Party!

[pharoh2bsoon]

Why do people criticize the Republican Party or GOP? Traditionally, they are the better party. You may be suprised by this for all you ignorant people, but the Republicans were against slavery during the American Civil war. It was also the Republicans who were apposed to the annexation of Hawaii as a US territory. They have done varity of many historical acts throughout history. Regan and Nixon, two of our greatest presidents in the 20th centure, were both Republicans. They stand for traditional values that embrace human and family life. Sure they support the rich for they feel that most of the rich people earned their wealth through hard work that spans many years and they like to support lower taxes making it easier upon the people of the US. So lets throw aside the hatred of Republicans and give them the respect they deserve.

[Another0]

I think that you have overlooked something though. The republicans, up until around 1950 were the more liberal party. Now the democrats are the more liberal. So really, everything that you just praised the Republicans for is really just praising the democrats of today.

[pharoh2bsoon]

Notice that I included figures from the modern Republican Party, Regan and Nixon

[LikWide-PsyCh0Path]

At 12/22/03 02:25 PM, pharoh2bsoon wrote: Notice that I included figures from the modern Republican Party, Regan and Nixon

WHAT ABOUT REAGANOMICS AND WATERGATE. My family was a victim of the former. I'll start liking republicans if they stopmaking the life of the working class man harder. The rich are sleases and that is how they got there in the first place, I don't really think any of them have really earned their wealth in an honest way.

[bumcheekcity]

So what if they did some good thinga a hundred, or fifty years back? It's their policies NOW that we dont like.

Actually it might be the fact that Republicans are virtually all right-wingers who are uber-conservative with the anti-abortion and the pro-gun and pro-war and praying in school and whatnot.

Personally I hate both political parties. =)

[takeit2themax]

Not all republicans are rich or rednecks.

[FUNKbrs]

One day I'll understand people who favor gun control. Frankly, guns DEMAND respect. The main problem with the world today is a lack of respect for people and property. The solution? Surround all people and property with guns, and VOILA! everyone and everything is respected. There's no lying to a gun. There's no double dealing. You either get shot or you don't. The world needs more hard lessons like that, if we are to survive our own progress.

[pharoh2bsoon]

At 12/22/03 03:48 PM, liquid_psychopath wrote: WHAT ABOUT REAGANOMICS AND WATERGATE. My family was a victim of the former. I'll start liking republicans if they stopmaking the life of the working class man harder. The rich are sleases and that is how they got there in the first place, I don't really think any of them have really earned their wealth in an honest way.

You mean the Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981. That was a good thing, it was meant to improve the US economy and they did. In every economic plan people are sometimes screwed. And watergate was one issue that seems to cloud the good things of Nixon. The two things that the Nixon Administration did were pulling us out of Vietnam and he esttablished diplomatic relations with China.

[youngnastyman471]

GO SHIT POOR LIBERALS

[IceWraith15]

At 12/22/03 12:52 PM, pharoh2bsoon wrote: Why do people criticize the Republican Party or GOP? Traditionally, they are the better party. You may be suprised by this for all you ignorant people, but the Republicans were against slavery during the American Civil war. It was also the Republicans who were apposed to the annexation of Hawaii as a US territory. They have done varity of many historical acts throughout history. Regan and Nixon, two of our greatest presidents in the 20th centure, were both Republicans. They stand for traditional values that embrace human and family life. Sure they support the rich for they feel that most of the rich people earned their wealth through hard work that spans many years and they like to support lower taxes making it easier upon the people of the US. So lets throw aside the hatred of Republicans and give them the respect they deserve.

First of all, I agree that all parties should be given respect, as the true beauty of our system is that we can express difference of opinion, and as a Democrat, I often disagree with the Republicans, but I respect their opinion.

Secondly, here you go again with the Hawaii Annexation, I have looked into the issue and I can say that I don't approve of how Hawaii was annexed, but you should also acknowledge that the marines landing on Hawaii wasn't a government-authorized action, and the president later apoligized to the queen and refused to annex Hawaii. You should also note that if the United States hadn't eventually annexed Hawaii, they would have been taken over by the Japanese.

[pharoh2bsoon]

At 12/22/03 08:42 PM, IceWraith15 wrote: Secondly, here you go again with the Hawaii Annexation, I have looked into the issue and I can say that I don't approve of how Hawaii was annexed, but you should also acknowledge that the marines landing on Hawaii wasn't a government-authorized action, and the president later apoligized to the queen and refused to annex Hawaii. You should also note that if the United States hadn't eventually annexed Hawaii, they would have been taken over by the Japanese.

You fail to relize that before President Clevland was to apologiize, word got out that Queen Lililokaloni was to exicute the american terrorists. Grover Clevland then ordered that Lililokaloni was to be locked into her palace to die. Hawaii was then taken over by the US. But this is off the topic you ignorat fool Icewraith15. But on the otherhand you are right in saying that all parties should get respect

[OpIvy420]

The Republican Party of today (the only one people should be concerned about right now, because that is the one currently fucking up our planet) is the party of authoritarian, racist, homophobic warmongers like Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Norman Leibmann, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, John Ashcroft, and George W. Bush.

If there was a Republican who supported gun control, drug legalization, gay rights, abortion, and nationalized health care and was against war, censorship, and Christian fundementalism, then I would vote for them. I don't care what party someone is part of, I care about what they stand for.

[DrxFeelgood]

At 12/23/03 12:25 AM, OpIvy420 wrote: The Republican Party of today (the only one people should be concerned about right now, because that is the one currently fucking up our planet)

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight

is the party of authoritarian, racist, homophobic warmongers like Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Norman Leibmann, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, John Ashcroft, and George W. Bush.

You must have them mistaken for someone else because those people are great people. You probably love that gem of a bitch Hillary Clinton don't you?

If there was a Republican who supported gun control, drug legalization, gay rights, abortion, against war....

Why? We don't need any of that.

[bumcheekcity]

At 12/23/03 02:12 AM, 70TA wrote:

If there was a Republican who supported gun control, drug legalization, gay rights, abortion, against war....

Why? We don't need any of that.

Because you love having thousands of millions of guns on the streets, control over every aspect of your life and no rights for people who are simply loving another guy, dont you?

[lapslf]

At 12/23/03 02:12 AM, 70TA wrote:

is the party of authoritarian, racist, homophobic warmongers like Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Norman Leibmann, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, John Ashcroft, and George W. Bush.

You must have them mistaken for someone else because those people are great people.

I believe the majority of those people have a criminal record.

If there was a Republican who supported gun control, drug legalization, gay rights, abortion, against war....

Why? We don't need any of that.

Sure, if you like the possibility to get shot everywhere you go, not being able to smoke pot if you want to, not being allowed to marry the man you love or getting rid of an unborn child you won't be able to take care of and like the way things are going in Iraq and Afghanistan right now, than you might not need any of that. Perhaps you don't need it, but a lot of people do.

[pharoh2bsoon]

At 12/23/03 12:25 AM, OpIvy420 wrote: The Republican Party of today (the only one people should be concerned about right now, because that is the one currently fucking up our planet) is the party of authoritarian, racist, homophobic warmongers like Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Norman Leibmann, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, John Ashcroft, and George W. Bush.

If there was a Republican who supported gun control, drug legalization, gay rights, abortion, and nationalized health care and was against war, censorship, and Christian fundementalism, then I would vote for them. I don't care what party someone is part of, I care about what they stand for.

The people you mentchoned are only human. They are doing what they think is right. They are not athoritarian because they don't have characteristic of an absolute ruler or absolute rule; having absolute sovereignty. Give me hard core proof that they are racist. And there is something known as gay Republicans

Republicans also favor guns since the 2nd amendment allows for people to own guns. They hold traditonal values very high so it would be normal for them to be against abortion and gay rights for they do not believe that they are traditional. Nationalized health care is bad, take a look at Canada's health system, do you want social medicine. Censorship, and Christian fundementalism, they are not for or against them. Your ideas are based on false idea formed from their more conservative ideas. And you killed your argument, for if you believe that they are Christian Fundementalists, then they would be apposed to war. Where did you come up with these ideas 'cause pulling them out of your ass doesn't work. Your ignorance is your undoing.

[OpIvy420]

At 12/23/03 11:40 AM, pharoh2bsoon wrote: Why Republicans are great

I think you misunderstand the point I was trying to make. This topic asks us to all respect the Republican Party, and I was saying that if there was a Republican that stood for the causes that I believe in, then I would support them. I don't give a shit about what party someone is from, just what they stand for. If you want to debate liberal vs. conservative ideologies, that seems like it would warrant its own topic.

[IceWraith15]

At 12/22/03 09:17 PM, pharoh2bsoon wrote: You fail to relize that before President Clevland was to apologiize, word got out that Queen Lililokaloni was to exicute the american terrorists. Grover Clevland then ordered that Lililokaloni was to be locked into her palace to die. Hawaii was then taken over by the US. But this is off the topic you ignorat fool Icewraith15. But on the otherhand you are right in saying that all parties should get respect

Actually, she was locked in the palace by farmers that had immagrated from America, the marine landings were not authorized by congress or the president, and then a coup was staged and the immagrant farmers claimed to be the true rulers. President Cleveland heard of this, and then immediatley removed the troops, released the Queen apologized, and he then refused to annez Hawaii. Also, a country cannot simply "take over" another land (unless it is a conquest obviousley), also, I've heard from many sourced that Hawaii actually wanted to become a state, and they don't want sovereignty, they do however resent people from ANY nation (not just the mainland U.S) moving into the native islands.

[RedSkunk]

At 12/22/03 12:52 PM, pharoh2bsoon wrote: Regan and Nixon, two of our greatest presidents in the 20th centure, were both Republicans. They stand for traditional values that embrace human and family life.

Ugh. Your two greatest presidents are also hovering around the top of 'former prez's I'd most like to shit on' list.

Strange, huh?

[RedSkunk]

At 12/23/03 02:12 AM, 70TA wrote: You must have them mistaken for someone else because those people are great people. You probably love that gem of a bitch Hillary Clinton don't you?

I love hillary for the simple fact that whenever her name is mentioned, you get a rise out of all of the redneck farmers around here. It's soooo amusing. I forget if I actually voted for her, I just went across the line, voting Green, then Dem, then even Rep for uncontested races ('02, first gubernatorial election I voted in, woot, twas fun)

[RedSkunk]

At 12/23/03 11:40 AM, pharoh2bsoon wrote:

At 12/23/03 12:25 AM, OpIvy420 wrote: ... is the party of authoritarian, racist, homophobic warmongers like Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Norman Leibmann, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, John Ashcroft, and George W. Bush.

Give me hard core proof that they are racist.

http://www.gwbush04.com/archives/000093.php
"The White House has suspended Republican pundit Ann Coulter today for her disparaging remarks on ethnicities such as Asians and Arabs in her latest book.
In Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism, Coulter characterizes Asians as “savage Oriental beasts” and Arabs as smelly"

There you go!

And there is something known as gay Republicans

so? There's also something known as 'rich democrats' or 'white democrats'. What's your point?

Republicans also favor guns since the 2nd amendment allows for people to own guns.

Oh. I thought the 2nd amendment allows people to form organized state militas. Huh.

Nationalized health care is bad, take a look at Canada's health system, do you want social medicine.

Could of fooled me. I thought I did want socialized medicine. Guess Canadians are coming to the US for cheaper prescription drugs and surgeries.

Christian Fundementalists, then they would be apposed to war.

Modern day crusades anyone?

[karasz]

lets start at the beginning...

pharoh-- you picked nixon and reagan as great prez.. well first good and bad picks, good cuz hey, reagan was prez when the soviet union collapsed, so he gets the credit for it (same thing about clinton and the economy, had it been a republican when the economy boomed he would have had the high marks for job approval) AND on this site, whenever you say reagan if you are a conservative and are praising him, change the name to clinton and however pissed off you get is exactly how pissed off the libs will get over reagan... true nixon had some good foreign policy stuff, opening china getting out of vietnam, but he also helped chile's elected socialist govt be overthrown by general pinochet, who is up at the hague for war crimes and watergate, true only 2 measley things (sarcasm) but watergate destroyed the american public's trust in the government and still it hasnt been fixed...

judgefunk-- you dont understand people that favor gun control... well change people to countries and guns to nukes... thats how us libs look at it... there are irrational countries out there (north korea) and irrational people (criminals i know im generalizing but it proves my point)

a large base for republicans are killed the christian coalition, who just happen to be christians... AND since they vote for republicans republicans will usually vote on laws based on how that constituenicy (sp) wants them too... which is how a representative democracy works...

and lastly what is so bad about socialized medicine OR a national health care system? you seem to say look at canada...

but canada's drugs are cheaper, and i really havent seen any counter arguement in anything other than its 'a socialist plan' which wont hold up when old people are paying 2/3 of their social security on medicine they need to live...

if you have an actual arguement to that i would love to hear it, because honestly i havent yet... (im not being a dick i actually do mean this... )

and christian fundamentalists are kinda tricky when it comes to war... like they were divided on the war against iraq... some followed the pope who said on several occasions war is not the answer... but most followed the president that saddam being out of power was for the greater good of the world...

and i really dont feel like responding to a bunch of posts that bush didnt use that as a reason to go to war, then be asked by everyone where the WMDs are... so im not responding to any posts referring to WMDs in Iraq or the reasons for the war...

and yes i am a liberal, but i see both points of view... except on socialized health care, i just havent seen a conservative arguement against it other than socialism...

[karasz]

At 12/27/03 02:02 AM, karasz wrote: republicans are killed the christian coalition,

i meant are CALLED the christian coalition... its pretty late

[bumcheekcity]

At 12/27/03 12:30 AM, red_skunk wrote: Ugh. Your two greatest presidents are also hovering around the top of 'former prez's I'd most like to shit on' list.

Ditto here. Wasn't Nixon impeached?

[Another0]

Nixon actually wasn't that bad. I'm a democrat and can say that. He did open up the trade to China and all that and fixed a few problems here and there, but, just like Clinton, he messed up one time and that's all anyone wants to remember about him.

[True-Lies]

At 12/27/03 06:39 AM, bumcheekcity wrote:
Ditto here. Wasn't Nixon impeached?

He resigned a day before he was to be impeached, so technically, no.