Point n' Point
In this NG movie this is the description
"Point meets up with Point in the first dimension."
this aim convo is what resulted:
TooCool100 [9:47 P.M.]: a point is zero dimentions
starogre [9:48 P.M.]: haha yes i know. i was going to do the movie differently but my laptop mic sucks
TooCool100 [9:48 P.M.]: then why didn't you change the description
starogre [9:49 P.M.]: because i did it in 10 minutes and i don't care about it anymore :P
TooCool100 [9:49 P.M.]: noooooooooo
TooCool100 [9:49 P.M.]: think about it
starogre [9:49 P.M.]: hm?
starogre [9:50 P.M.]: think about changing it?
TooCool100 [9:50 P.M.]: some day in the distant future.. when some bored 13 year old searches for the word "point" on NG.. and he comes to your flash animation.. and that poor sucker reads the description and "learns" that a point is one dimention
TooCool100 [9:50 P.M.]: and later on in his life
TooCool100 [9:50 P.M.]: a gun is put to his head
TooCool100 [9:50 P.M.]: and will be set free if he could answer one question
TooCool100 [9:50 P.M.]: one question only
TooCool100 [9:51 P.M.]: and that question is
TooCool100 [9:51 P.M.]: how many dimentions is a point
TooCool100 [9:51 P.M.]: and he shits his pants
TooCool100 [9:51 P.M.]: but then is happy
TooCool100 [9:51 P.M.]: cause he read about it a long time ago on NG
TooCool100 [9:51 P.M.]: and he says "one dimention"
starogre [9:51 P.M.]: i don't think you understand completely
TooCool100 [9:51 P.M.]: and BOOM
TooCool100 [9:51 P.M.]: shot in the head
starogre [9:51 P.M.]: i understand your point, no pun intended
starogre [9:51 P.M.]: the line that are sitting on
starogre [9:51 P.M.]: is one dimension
starogre [9:51 P.M.]: yes, it is a pixel high
starogre [9:52 P.M.]: but it's for the lulz
TooCool100 [9:52 P.M.]: its too esoteric to be lulz
TooCool100 [9:53 P.M.]: ok.. i just watched it again
TooCool100 [9:53 P.M.]: the points were not in the dimention
TooCool100 [9:53 P.M.]: they were above the dimention
starogre [9:53 P.M.]: they were definitely touching it
TooCool100 [9:53 P.M.]: it looks to me they were right above that first dimention
TooCool100 [9:53 P.M.]: ergo
TooCool100 [9:53 P.M.]: the creatures in the first dimention could not see them
TooCool100 [9:53 P.M.]: therefore.. they were not in it
TooCool100 [9:54 P.M.]: hense.. another LIEEE
TooCool100 [9:54 P.M.]: lieeesss
TooCool100 [9:54 P.M.]: lieessssssss
TooCool100 [9:54 P.M.]: LIEEEEEEEES
starogre [9:54 P.M.]: if we lived in a matrix
starogre [9:54 P.M.]: none of it would matter
TooCool100 [9:54 P.M.]: yea but we dont
starogre [9:54 P.M.]: if i say we lived in such matrix
starogre [9:54 P.M.]: you can't prove me wrong
TooCool100 [9:55 P.M.]: i think this is the biggest overanalysis on the most tinyest insignificant pointless piece of crap ever
TooCool100 [9:55 P.M.]: lets continue
starogre [9:55 P.M.]: sweet
TooCool100 [9:56 P.M.]: what persay does this matrix do to proove that a zero dimentional creature can enter a one dimentional space when being above it
TooCool100 [9:57 P.M.]: and not entering it
starogre [9:58 P.M.]: well when you're in a matrix, none of these laws really apply, but if you were indeed in a matrix, it should be possible to travel between them
TooCool100 [9:58 P.M.]: i need details as to how this cosmological abberation can occur
starogre [10:00 P.M.]: well if you agree in the slightest, that we do infact live in a matrix, anything could be possible
starogre [10:00 P.M.]: however, i do not believe we do live in a matrix
starogre [10:01 P.M.]: chaos theory says the universe is expanding
starogre [10:02 P.M.]: which could be our matrix expanding
starogre [10:02 P.M.]: but no one knows
starogre [10:02 P.M.]: anyways, yes, i purposely wrote the description
TooCool100 [10:02 P.M.]: i do not prosper by the suspension of faith, but rather excell through the light of science and proof... grant upon me not your blind acceptance of knowledge, but rather your in depth understanding of math, space, science and proof
starogre [10:03 P.M.]: to make a 13 yr old kid shoot himself in the face
starogre [10:03 P.M.]: proof of what
starogre [10:03 P.M.]: what do you want me to prove
TooCool100 [10:03 P.M.]: no... some guy killed a 13 year old kid because he got the wrong info from you
starogre [10:03 P.M.]: ok whatever he dies in the end
TooCool100 [10:04 P.M.]: proove how a matrix can make a zero dimentional creature enter a one dimentional plane, when that zero dimentional creature is above that dimention
starogre [10:04 P.M.]: i don't think you fully understand
TooCool100 [10:04 P.M.]: oh i understand alright
starogre [10:04 P.M.]: a matrix could be able to do anything
TooCool100 [10:04 P.M.]: PROOF
starogre [10:04 P.M.]: considering its a computer program
TooCool100 [10:05 P.M.]: i can make my arm move up and down
TooCool100 [10:05 P.M.]: and i can proove it
starogre [10:05 P.M.]: ?
starogre [10:05 P.M.]: a matrix is a computer program where anything is possible
starogre [10:05 P.M.]: you can't argue the definition of that
TooCool100 [10:06 P.M.]: lets stop here for a sec
TooCool100 [10:06 P.M.]: what is this program of which you speak
starogre [10:07 P.M.]: our entire universe is a computer program
starogre [10:07 P.M.]: and we are all figments of said computer program
starogre [10:07 P.M.]: created by more knowledgeable beings
starogre [10:07 P.M.]: outside our realm of knowledge
starogre [10:07 P.M.]: i don't believe this is true but i can argue for it
TooCool100 [10:08 P.M.]: i dont think this is true but i can argue against it
starogre [10:08 P.M.]: because there's no way you can tell me it's not true
starogre [10:08 P.M.]: just like how i don't think time exists
TooCool100 [10:08 P.M.]: because there's no way you can tell me its true
starogre [10:08 P.M.]: exactly
starogre [10:08 P.M.]: but the point is
starogre [10:08 P.M.]: you were the one trying to argue something
starogre [10:08 P.M.]: and i countered
TooCool100 [10:09 P.M.]: on the other hand
starogre [10:09 P.M.]: so there's no way to tell me what you said about my flash movie is completely true, seeing as how you have not yet disproved my theory
TooCool100 [10:09 P.M.]: some scientists speculate that in a fraction of time so immensly small right after the big bang.. all dimentions existed at once
starogre [10:09 P.M.]: and that has to do with..?
TooCool100 [10:10 P.M.]: well im saying
TooCool100 [10:10 P.M.]: your theory of the matrix might be true in a super tiny fraction of time right after the big bang
TooCool100 [10:10 P.M.]: not so much the matrix itself.. but the effect is has on the combination of dimentions
starogre [10:11 P.M.]: what if the big bang was part of the matrix
TooCool100 [10:11 P.M.]: but that time is now 13 billion years in the past and is no longer a void point to this current time
TooCool100 [10:12 P.M.]: but our definitions depend on our observable universe, while your theory may be true, we still must give descriptions based on the contrictions of our current limitations
starogre [10:13 P.M.]: i agree, data is data
starogre [10:13 P.M.]: but it's never going to be 100% true
starogre [10:13 P.M.]: and you need 100% to say true or false
TooCool100 [10:13 P.M.]: maybe not, but it will always be 100% true in the confinds of our human limitations
TooCool100 [10:14 P.M.]: as long as they meet our human given definitions
starogre [10:14 P.M.]: yea, but that still doesn't disprove anything
TooCool100 [10:15 P.M.]: no it doesn't, but it does prove that the populous will be able to comprehend our expressions of geometry
TooCool100 [10:16 P.M.]: given in our own realm of human limitations
starogre [10:16 P.M.]: so you're saying we can never learn anything more because it's outside our current understanding?
TooCool100 [10:16 P.M.]: what is knowledge, but the ability of someone to understand the same thing that you are expressing
TooCool100 [10:17 P.M.]: no
