I am an animator, but shit artiste.

[SK8ninja]

Believe it or not (since I have done a bit of spamming in the past) am am a pretty good animator. But (yes, there's a but) I can't draw a decent graphic in flash for my life.

So, I was wondering if there was anyone out there who needs an animator.

You can be a programmer, or artist, but whatever, I only animate, no drawing or coding.
Does anyone wanna collaborate with an 11-year-old (which I hear are notoriously irritating) to make a flash? Anyone? Please? Pretty please? With cherries on top? And Ice-Cream? And chocolate sprinkles?

Didn't think so!

[EvanHayes]

hahaahahahaha,dude the main part of animation is the drawing lmfao. this is pathetic. so what your saying is,you can tween parts....wow thats cool i rate that under sprite animation.

[ixintro]

You animate... but can't draw?... That don't add up, THAT DON'T ADD UP!

[SK8ninja]

At 1/7/09 04:02 PM, sk8more wrote: hahaahahahaha,dude the main part of animation is the drawing lmfao. this is pathetic. so what your saying is,you can tween parts....wow thats cool i rate that under sprite animation.

I never said I can tween parts, which I can, because it's easy, but I can also frame-by-frame animate. And I do not use sprites. Who wants fucking Sonic in a flash?

[EvanHayes]

how the fuck can you do fbf if YOU CANT DRAW! you need to draw in order to fbf unless your making sticks. i said "tweening everything, is easier than sprite animations",anybody can do it.

you should not have sk8ninja as your name,mine is sk8more,you copied me,take it out.

[4urentertainment]

At 1/7/09 04:05 PM, SK8ninja wrote: I never said I can tween parts, which I can, because it's easy, but I can also frame-by-frame animate. And I do not use sprites. Who wants fucking Sonic in a flash?

First: Please refrain from use words such as "fu**ing" Just because everyone else says it doesn't mean you should too.

Second: Start out by tracing stuff. let's say you want to make a room with a chair and a tv. Search for the items on google, put them in flash, lock their layers then make a new layer above them then use the pen tool to trace over them. You'll have a pretty cool looking room in the end. Then try to animate THAT. Then from there you can really start to progress.

Also, search on some animation tutorials on flashkit.com or something.

[beast-unleashed]

now the best way you can put that is you know HOW to animate. you just suck horribly at it. because if you suck at drawing you suck at animating.

[beast-unleashed]

At 1/7/09 04:36 PM, beast-unleashed wrote: now the best way you can put that is you know HOW to animate. you just suck horribly at it. because if you suck at drawing you suck at animating.

and thats why im a sprite animator. but its not like im too proud of it

[zedd56]

At 1/7/09 04:03 PM, ixintro wrote: You animate... but can't draw?... That don't add up, THAT DON'T ADD UP!

Welcome to the world of stick figures. Even that takes some patience/skill though, fuckin tweening drawn parts is way below any other form of animation. You wanna know why? Because it's not animating. You draw a picture and then basically tell the computer to break it up and move it around to make it seem as though it was animated.

Mind you, good tweening, fbf in conjunction with the free transform tool can make some fuckin smooth shit.

I'll stick to mah stick figures until i learn fb properly.

[ixintro]

At 1/7/09 04:52 PM, zedd56 wrote:

Welcome to the world of stick figures...

Stick figures make me want to jump through a plate glass window.

[zedd56]

newgrounds rarely sees any decent stick animation.

[Ertyguy]

weren't you guys listening he doesn't draw sticks, he traces everything

[zedd56]

At 1/7/09 08:54 PM, Ertyguy wrote: weren't you guys listening he doesn't draw sticks, he traces everything

We stopped caring about OP.

[Andy-Parker]

i dont like the way everyone's jumped on this guys case about being able to animate but not draw. being able to animate isn't necessarily the next logical step after being able to draw.

a good animator is someone who can envision how things move in a realistic and/or artistic manner and then put it on paper (or in this case, flash).

being able to draw is a separate skill which i shouldn't have to explain.

to use an example, someone who is good at animating might only be able to draw a crude looking person but then animate them walking in a very fluent way. but then someone who is good at drawing might be able to draw a near-lifelike person but then have serious trouble moving them at all.

speaking from experience i can animate a lot better than i can draw, and that has always been the case. some people might say that's not hard given my drawing abilities, and some people might say it doesn't matter because i manage to cover it up. either way, that's not really the point.

i haven't looked at any of this kid's work so i'm not saying this applies to him. but my advice to him is keep animating with your own drawings. you'll slowly get better and the fact that you can't draw that well will just mean you have to animate better to make up for it, and at the end of the day you will be a better animator because of it.

[xXsnowbladeXx]

The guy above me has a very good point. Drawing does have some weight in animation, but just because someone cant draw very well doesnt mean they cant animate.

[UnknownFury]

If you're good at animating then show us what you can do. We're not just gonna say, 'he says he can animate, lets take him on'. Make something that'll impress us.

[Monny]

Drawing isn't necessarily "required" for animation. I mean, it's definitely a useful skill to have, obviously, but uh, again, not required.

The problem with getting artists to create visual elements for you to animate is the risk factor. If they give you really great art, chances are that you'll recycle it in your own creations (whether it be signatures, avatars, other animations [without the artist's consent], etc.).

If you really want to get great at animation, you can't really use others as a crutch, man. YOU have to make the effort, YOU have to take the time to practice, and YOU have to have the desire to get better.

Just practice. You're young, you have plenty of time to learn. And to practice.

[Asalraalaikum]

At 1/7/09 03:48 PM, SK8ninja wrote: 11-year-old

Underaged.

Didn't think so!

So why did you made this thread in the first place?

[Moltimert]

At 1/7/09 03:48 PM, SK8ninja wrote: Believe it or not am am a pretty good animator.

Actually, you're pretty bad at animating too
I used to do shit like that on PowerPoint

[zedd56]

At 1/8/09 05:01 AM, xXsnowbladeXx wrote: The guy above me has a very good point. Drawing does have some weight in animation, but just because someone cant draw very well doesnt mean they cant animate.

no, that's a very shitty point.
You can be the master of physics, but if you can't even draw a stickman, your movements in animation will look shitty too.

Sure, you can animate. But without being able to draw, you won't be able to animate anything impressive. Tweens don't count as being able to animate either, that's the computer animating your drawings for you.

[zedd56]

dear sweet jesus i just saw your latest animation

it isn't even animation
wow, seriously, you're not going anywhere in this field.
sorry, it's the sad truth.

it's not even that you're bad. It's that you think that these things take a couple minutes to make or something. Put your balls to the wall and see what you can do.

Seriously, it was really pathetic. At least fuckin try next time.

[patu1]

Bunch of morons...
Tweening is above sprites and stick figures. Tweening is used in professional 3d movies.
it can be used for rally good stuff like tankman..the problem is most people can't tween properly..

[thedo12]

only being good in animation will only get you so far , in the words of some famous animator guy who,s name I cant remeber.

"if you cant draw, forget it youre an actor without arms and legs"

[fluffkomix]

At 1/7/09 04:23 PM, 4urentertainment wrote: Second: Start out by tracing stuff. let's say you want to make a room with a chair and a tv. Search for the items on google, put them in flash, lock their layers then make a new layer above them then use the pen tool to trace over them. You'll have a pretty cool looking room in the end. Then try to animate THAT. Then from there you can really start to progress.

and when you do that, another way that looks more cartoony and really nice, as by zooming into %400 or %800 and use the size 3 or 2 brush. it looks amazing.