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What is your view on marriage?

personally marriage is a way women can trap "beta" males into doing whatever they want. Women only care about 2 things marriage and sex. Marriage is used to get women into much higher positions their minds can do and thats why the world is in chaos. Sex however is completely different from marriage and its the females dominant side.

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At 1/5/09 09:00 AM, Masterzakk wrote:

personally marriage is a way women can trap "beta" males into doing whatever they want. Women only care about 2 things marriage and sex. Marriage is used to get women into much higher positions their minds can do and thats why the world is in chaos. Sex however is completely different from marriage and its the females dominant side.

It seems like it should artificially increase the number of beta males, which is a good thing because it reduces the number of alphas and omegas (which I'd argue are both socially undesirable).

I believe that marriage is not for everyone. For instance, I believe that sex should be saved for marriage, so I will, but I would not try to force this belief on anyone, not even my kids. It is a personal choice that fits me, but if someone (most of you) disagree with me, that's your choice. I don't really think that there are very many moral implications in marriage anymore.

I qualify this by saying I know there are real reasons for divorce.
What I beleive is that today the high divorce rate has become self fuffilling. People see that half of all marriages end in divorce and that says to them that it's escapable, and that's how they approach it. They don't approach marriage like meaningful union it's supposed to be but something more like a stage of a realationship and that's fucking horrendous.

At 1/5/09 05:04 PM, CBP wrote: I believe that marriage is not for everyone. For instance, I believe that sex should be saved for marriage,

Why? I never really got what saving sex for marriage accomplishes.

so I will, but I would not try to force this belief on anyone, not even my kids.

So you would be perfectly fine if you had a teenage daughter who was having sex?

At 1/5/09 05:37 PM, aninjaman wrote:

At 1/5/09 05:04 PM, CBP wrote:

so I will, but I would not try to force this belief on anyone, not even my kids.

So you would be perfectly fine if you had a teenage daughter who was having sex?

It's not really fair to equaite sex before marriage toteenagers having sex. the two are seperate issues.

I think marriage sucks .
But I'm divorced so that makes me one with a predjudiced opinion.
But anyone who thinks marriage is expensive...wait til you pay for a divorce.
Secondly I would like to propse that the Party held after a divorce should be even bigger than the Party held after a wedding.
I know mine was.

At 1/5/09 05:41 PM, stafffighter wrote:

At 1/5/09 05:37 PM, aninjaman wrote:

At 1/5/09 05:04 PM, CBP wrote:

so I will, but I would not try to force this belief on anyone, not even my kids.

So you would be perfectly fine if you had a teenage daughter who was having sex?

It's not really fair to equaite sex before marriage toteenagers having sex. the two are seperate issues.

But CBP is a teenager promoting abstinence. He said he is fine with whatever his children do but I figured if he ever had children and they starting having sex his tone would change.

At 1/5/09 05:41 PM, stafffighter wrote:

At 1/5/09 05:37 PM, aninjaman wrote:

At 1/5/09 05:04 PM, CBP wrote:

so I will, but I would not try to force this belief on anyone, not even my kids.

So you would be perfectly fine if you had a teenage daughter who was having sex?

It's not really fair to equaite sex before marriage toteenagers having sex. the two are seperate issues.

Just barely. Kids are having sex and getting married in their youths (and generally in that order) due to the devaluing of both.

Marriage is the stupidest decision a man can ever make. It was devised back before women could work so that women can be provided for (tasks like cooking and cleaning took all day back then, so they weren't just being lazy,) but however, in todays world where women can work and you do not need a homemaker marriage is just a scam. Think about it -

Who almost always wins in divorce court?
Answer: The woman

If they get temporarily separated who is the one who usually stays in the house (even if it is the man's house)?
Answer: The woman

Who almost always wins custody battles?
Answer: The woman

Who gets the most valuable engagement ring?
Answer: The woman

In general, all you are doing by getting married is giving up your freedom, having to alter your schedule to benefit someone else who doesn't benefit you at all, giving up loads of money, giving up loads of time, and generally making your life a shithole. If you want sex prostitutes are cheaper in the long run. If you want companionship get a dog. If you want to ruin your life get married.

Marriage is good for tax purposes. So are kids for that mater, however kids offset the tax benifits with constant cost. lol

At 1/5/09 06:18 PM, zendahl wrote: Marriage is good for tax purposes. So are kids for that mater, however kids offset the tax benifits with constant cost. lol

The taxes saved by marriage are negligible compared to the extra costs of the wedding/ marriage/ divorce.

Not true I got married on fifty dollars and have been reaping the benifits for five years. Extra pay in the military, two incomes, tax breaks, the list goes on.

At 1/5/09 06:28 PM, zendahl wrote: Not true I got married on fifty dollars and have been reaping the benifits for five years. Extra pay in the military, two incomes, tax breaks, the list goes on.

From birth most women have been trained to want a story book wedding. They see little cartoons of huge elaborate ceremonies, and they grow to want it. Very few women will want a $50 marriage. In my state to get married you have to have a publicly recognized ceremony, yet if I get married (and I won't) I would just gather five or six people to watch me fill out the marriage paperwork. That will be the ceremony.

At 1/5/09 06:39 PM, Conspiracy3 wrote: yet if I get married (and I won't) I would just gather five or six people to watch me fill out the marriage paperwork. That will be the ceremony.

Would one of the people watching you fill out forms be the bride? Your language is very revealing here.

We had a cerimony, it just took place in a friends living room, preformed by a rabbi friend of mine, we bought a carrot cake from safeway, the wine came from a case I made myself, A friend from pizza hut sent us free pizza and the reception was in a coffee shop my friend owned. almost all free. All of it recognized by the government.

Let's divide men into three categories:

-Alphas, have more than one sex partner at a time
-Betas, have one sex partner at a time
-Omegas, usually have no sex partners

Marriage is a social construct that reduces the number of alphas and omegas, and increases the number of betas. In a society with no marriage, a less desirable man has to convince a woman that being with him exclusively is better than being with another man who has multiple partners. But in a society with marriage, such a man merely has to convince a woman that being with him is better than being alone.

Since being alone is much worse than sharing a partner, we'd expect the institution of marriage to reduce the number of omegas and increase the number of betas.

marriage has no bering on how many sexual partners you have. A person can be hapily maried to one woman and still have many sexual partners. And even more comon is a married man who never has sex and so no sexual partners. Plus the terms alpha beta and omega are not related just to number of partners. An alpha just has more opportunity due to the fact that they are stronger in the social order. alphas are strong, not just more sexualy active. They lead and have the ability to get his way. Alphas are the strong, that has nothing to do with sex.

Marriage is a fun way to ensure that you'll always have someone to play Monopoly with on a boring Thursday night.

All of you are overthinking this, and none of you seem to have a clue

At 1/5/09 07:06 PM, zendahl wrote:

'cept maybe this guy. He seems on the level.

At 1/5/09 09:00 AM, Masterzakk wrote: personally marriage is a way women can trap "beta" males into doing whatever they want. Women only care about 2 things marriage and sex. Marriage is used to get women into much higher positions their minds can do and thats why the world is in chaos. Sex however is completely different from marriage and its the females dominant side.

At 1/5/09 08:00 PM, Al6200 wrote: Let's divide men into three categories:

-Alphas, have more than one sex partner at a time
-Betas, have one sex partner at a time
-Omegas, usually have no sex partners

Marriage is a social construct that reduces the number of alphas and omegas, and increases the number of betas. In a society with no marriage, a less desirable man has to convince a woman that being with him exclusively is better than being with another man who has multiple partners. But in a society with marriage, such a man merely has to convince a woman that being with him is better than being alone.

Since being alone is much worse than sharing a partner, we'd expect the institution of marriage to reduce the number of omegas and increase the number of betas.

You guys crack me up.

Coming up next: a discussion on rock climbing by people who've never even seen a mountain.

Nah my wife hates playing momopoly with me because I always win. I always win at everything though. I'm very competitive. lol

At 1/5/09 08:17 PM, THEJamoke wrote:

You guys crack me up.

Coming up next: a discussion on rock climbing by people who've never even seen a mountain.

I've never been married, so I can't speak from personal experience. But all I really said was that married people are more likely to only have one partner than non-married people. To me, that seems like common knowledge.

That people have different number of sexual partners is simply a fact, consider this graph from the General Social Survey. It follows logically that if married people are in the middle of the distribution, that increasing the percentage of the population that is married will make the distribution less flat.

It would be interesting to see that graph for different cultures. I predict that it would be a flatter distribution in societies with a weaker marriage tradition, but I shouldn't be drawing conclusions before I actually see the data.

At 1/5/09 08:17 PM, THEJamoke wrote: Marriage is a fun way to ensure that you'll always have someone to play Monopoly with on a boring Thursday night.

Dog, exactly.

All you people are assholes who see life as a competition. You don't get married to seal the deal and lock up a bit of extra life quality for yourself, you do it because you love someone and want to share your life with them.

Everyone stop being dumb right now.

At 1/5/09 09:16 PM, Elfer wrote:

All you people are assholes who see life as a competition.

Humans are animals, and animals compete for mates. Does that mean that life is all about competition? Of course not.

You don't get married to seal the deal and lock up a bit of extra life quality for yourself, you do it because you love someone and want to share your life with them.

Of course not. Look, when a parent raises a child, you could say that the parent is increasing their fitness by improving the quality of their offspring. Or you could say that the parent loves their child and wants them to have a good life. In either case you'd be right. The fact that humans compete over mates in no way contradicts the fact that humans are loving, compassionate creatures.

In this discussion I'm pointing out that humans have to select mates, and that we have social institutions that improve this process. It's easy to demonstrate that some societies have social constructs that make the process a lot worse (consider polygamy in sub-saharan africa or the Fundamental LDS).

At 1/5/09 09:16 PM, Elfer wrote: Dog, exactly.

All you people are assholes who see life as a competition. You don't get married to seal the deal and lock up a bit of extra life quality for yourself, you do it because you love someone and want to share your life with them.

Everyone stop being dumb right now.

qft

At 1/5/09 05:37 PM, aninjaman wrote:

At 1/5/09 05:04 PM, CBP wrote: I believe that marriage is not for everyone. For instance, I believe that sex should be saved for marriage,

Why? I never really got what saving sex for marriage accomplishes.

Less chance for STDs and unwanted pregnancies, even when you take protection into account. Also, some would argue that it makes the first time that much more special in the minds of the participants - I seem to recall reading somewhere that, statistically, marriages in which one or both partners abstained until their wedding night tend to wind up happier together in the long run.

Less chance for STDs and unwanted pregnancies, even when you take protection into account. Also, some would argue that it makes the first time that much more special in the minds of the participants - I seem to recall reading somewhere that, statistically, marriages in which one or both partners abstained until their wedding night tend to wind up happier together in the long run.

Screw someone who is already married! Like I said married women want sex and marriage they are completely different the alpha males can get away with it!

At 1/5/09 08:00 PM, Al6200 wrote: Let's divide men into three categories:

-Alphas, have more than one sex partner at a time
-Betas, have one sex partner at a time
-Omegas, usually have no sex partners

Marriage is a social construct that reduces the number of alphas and omegas, and increases the number of betas. In a society with no marriage, a less desirable man has to convince a woman that being with him exclusively is better than being with another man who has multiple partners. But in a society with marriage, such a man merely has to convince a woman that being with him is better than being alone.

Since being alone is much worse than sharing a partner, we'd expect the institution of marriage to reduce the number of omegas and increase the number of betas.

You are completely ignoring polygamy and open marriages. In some societies it is completely acceptable for a man to marry more than one woman. In some societies it is completely acceptable for either partner to sleep around.

I'm glad to see Newgrounds is full of such swingin' young bachelors. It's sure changed from the forums I used to visit where the majority of you were bitter, angsty teens and tweens with almost no concept of how to attract women or what they wanted. Frankly, I'm surprised all of your multiple partners give you much time to post between orgies.

I love being married.

Two incomes is awesome, and without it we wouldn't be able to afford to live the lifestyles that we currently have, or the house we have.

The cost of being married doesn't have to be expensive. It depends on what the couple's priorities are. Ours were to start our marriage off right and not in much more debt than we started out in, so in all our wedding (with 6 people including us) cost 75 dollars. She bought a dress at a store, I got married in my Dress Blue Deltas and it went smooth.

Honeymoon, it's not needed, just more debt. You can always do it later when the couple is more financially stable.

We decided not to have kids, so that's not an issue with us.

But in the end I married my best friend, and I have had very few bad days in the past six years.