obama assassination

[CommisarGaunt]

am i the only one who thinks he's gonna get shot? i'm not being racist, and i supported him through the election, but to be realistic, he's goin down.

[CommisarGaunt]

yeah they'll jump off the back of the presidential limousine moments before the shooting. [kenneddy assassination reference]

[Shaggytheclown17]

At 1/4/09 06:32 AM, CommisarGaunt wrote: am i the only one who thinks he's gonna get shot? i'm not being racist, and i supported him through the election, but to be realistic, he's goin down.

Actually if you look at history hes the least likely to be assassinated, even if he has African American ancestors n white trash red necks have it out for people like him for reasons that can only be explained by their inbred white trash parents who carried their racism on from their inbred white trash parents....lol I'm a white American so I can say bad things about us 8P

Anyway, by what I've heard, Obama is either gonna be utterly untouchable, or there will be a planned assassination from the inside.
I've heard some pretty crazy ideas too, like if Obama's assinated he'll come back to life like the antichrist er something.
Anyway unless this corrupt government wants Obama gone and ultimately cause the collapse of the American government which would likely be created with his assassination which would be prolly be a horribly obvious conspiracy causing the entire country to riot and overthrow the government, likely rebuilding it later or selling off parts......ah nevermind I'm rambling 8(

Obama wont be assassinated man.

[CommisarGaunt]

At 1/4/09 07:25 AM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote:

At 1/4/09 06:32 AM, CommisarGaunt wrote: am i the only one who thinks he's gonna get shot? i'm not being racist, and i supported him through the election, but to be realistic, he's goin down.

Anyway, by what I've heard, Obama is either gonna be utterly untouchable, or there will be a planned assassination from the inside.
I've heard some pretty crazy ideas too, like if Obama's assinated he'll come back to life like the antichrist er something.

i've heard speculation about him being prophesied to come and take over the world by nostradamus or some shit. sounded weird but he kind of fit the description.

[Tancrisism]

At 1/4/09 08:13 AM, CommisarGaunt wrote: i've heard speculation about him being prophesied to come and take over the world by nostradamus or some shit. sounded weird but he kind of fit the description.

If you tried hard enough you could find a way to rationalize Barney as the antichrist.

I sincerely hope he doesn't get attacked. Apparently the secret service are already preparing for his inauguration.

[SmilezRoyale]

Am i the only one who feels like Obama probably has more political allies than George Bush? and is LESS likely to be assassinated.

[Tri-Nitro-Toluene]

At 1/4/09 08:39 AM, Tancrisism wrote:

At 1/4/09 08:13 AM, CommisarGaunt wrote: i've heard speculation about him being prophesied to come and take over the world by nostradamus or some shit. sounded weird but he kind of fit the description.

If you tried hard enough you could find a way to rationalize Barney as the antichrist.

You mean he isn't? O_o

Obama will be fine. The threat will be there of coruse just like with all presidents but the Secret service know what they are doing.

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He can't be killed, cause he is the anti-christ XD

[Tancrisism]

At 1/4/09 09:12 AM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote: Obama will be fine. The threat will be there of coruse just like with all presidents but the Secret service know what they are doing.

The threat is definitely elevated, but the Secret Security are really efficient at their job. And they are stepping up security even further now - hence the fact that Obama doesn't usually give a speech outside of a bullet proof glass.

[jakobhummelen]

That's the same secret service whom let a reported throw a shoe at the head of president Bush... Obama isn't untouchable but I don't think there are a lot of people who want him dead.

[Everlasting-Elements]

I've read that Adolf Hitler had over 40 hits on him, and they failed each time.
If you couldn't kill hitler, they're not gonna get to Obama. It'd have to be an inside job, most definately, which would be stupid, because like the one guy said, there'd be a huge fuckin' riot.
He'll be fine. Most definately.

[Al6200]

Think about the kind of people who would try to assassinate Obama. Get a picture of them in your head. (I'm seeing a neo-nazi from the deep south).

Now do you see those guys doing all of the preparation to pull off a proper assassination? Do you really see them out thinking the secret service? Do you see them out thinking anybody?

[Conspiracy3]

Obama has more secret service guards than any other president before him (about five times what Bush got.) I doubt he will be assassinated.

[Earfetish]

The internet should really stop predicting that Obama's gonna get killed.

[Conspiracy3]

At 1/4/09 07:25 AM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote:

At 1/4/09 06:32 AM, CommisarGaunt wrote:

Anyway, by what I've heard, Obama is either gonna be utterly untouchable, or there will be a planned assassination from the inside.

The only way I can really see it happening is as an inside Job. It would be completely possible for someone to pull a BRVTVS on the senate floor.

[D2Kvirus]

No, I think the novelty will wear off when it turns out he's an empty shill with no policies, and he'll be the first black President to be voited out of office in four years time.

[Bolo]

At 1/4/09 09:57 AM, jakobhummelen wrote: That's the same secret service whom let a reported throw a shoe at the head of president Bush... Obama isn't untouchable but I don't think there are a lot of people who want him dead.

Would a shoe have inflicted a mortal wound on the president had it happened to hit him? Unless the president has severe existing brain contusions, a mild trauma to the head is not going to be a deadly attack. Realistically, insult or not, a shoe is not a weapon capable of permanent damage at long range. This is why it was not stopped by the Secret Service before the reporter was allowed to enter into the press conference.

The secret service is incredibly thorough when it comes to actual weapons, and exists for the SOLE PURPOSE of protecting the president's life. The organization dedicates itself all day and every day to that purpose and even has a multimillion dollar training facility in D.C., as well as a few hundred full time employees, not to mention the entire swath of resources provided by the NSA, CIA, FBI, Pentagon, all branches of the military, and basically any United States government organization under the sun.

There really is no way foreseeable way for Obama to be assassinated, especially considering the fact that the KKK is a defunct and dying organization that has no reason to care about Obama's assumption of power anyways -- he's not a descendant of any slave (the initial object of the KKK's wrath), as his father was from Kenya and his mother was a white woman. In fact he is probably safer from assassination in the world at large than his predecessor, due to Obama's very positive public image in most parts of the planet.

Who would want to assassinate him, anyways, besides radical right-wingers?

[sirtom93]

He wont get assassinated.

[Conspiracy3]

At 1/4/09 03:14 PM, Bolo wrote:

At 1/4/09 09:57 AM, jakobhummelen wrote: That's the same secret service whom let a reported throw a shoe at the head of president Bush... Obama isn't untouchable but I don't think there are a lot of people who want him dead.

Would a shoe have inflicted a mortal wound on the president had it happened to hit him?

Before the Bush shoe incident the secret service were probably never told what to do if someone throws a shoe at the president. Today that is probably one of the first things that they are trained to handle.

[BrianEtrius]

At 1/4/09 01:11 PM, Earfetish wrote: The internet should really stop predicting that Obama's gonna get killed.

Seriously.

You don't think the Secret Service takes their jobs seriously? Peh.

Remember Wade's announcement a few years back? Well now it's probably a heavier charge. Also, they're going to be looking more.

Wade's linky.

[wildfire4461]

Don't forget what the Tin Foil Hat Brigade has to say about him.
They could make him a Martyr to the cause.

[Al6200]

At 1/4/09 03:14 PM, Bolo wrote:

Who would want to assassinate him, anyways, besides radical right-wingers?

Meh, militant white nationalists of the non-thinking type. The kind of people who name their son Adolf Hitler. It's important to note that these people also tend to be poor and uneducated, so it's unlikely that they could pose a serious threat to Obama even if they wanted to.

There are white nationalists of the thinking variety, though, but they wouldn't want to kill Obama because they realize how bad it would be. If Obama was assassinated tomorrow, everyone would remember Obama for his campaign promises, and not any actual policy, and any historical mention of him would be very positive.

[Proteas]

At 1/4/09 09:57 AM, jakobhummelen wrote: That's the same secret service whom let a reported throw a shoe at the head of president Bush... Obama isn't untouchable but I don't think there are a lot of people who want him dead.

Such a tragedy as last month's shoe throwing incident must never be allowed to happen again, to our President or any other dignitary. As such, I reccomend that an extreme course of action must be taken.

Chop all reporter's feet off.

No feet, no shoes to wear, no shoes to throw. Problem solved. And it's a solution that fits right in with middle eastern viewpoints.

At 1/4/09 10:28 AM, Everlasting-Elements wrote: I've read that Adolf Hitler had over 40 hits on him, and they failed each time.
If you couldn't kill hitler, they're not gonna get to Obama.

Das es troo, der Furher vas een-veen-ceeble, but it vas NOT beecause he was der Furher, it was beecause he vas een posession of dah Spear of Longinus, dah spear dat pierce Christ's side on de Cross. DEES made heem unspeakable pow-ah-full!

HEIL HITLER!!!

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All joking aside, what exactly is the fascination with the idea that Obama might be assasinated, hm? For 8 years we've had what my generation will always refer to as the WORST president of all time, and not ONE viable attempt was made on his life. Not one. The last President to have any sort of attempt made on his life was Reagan, and that was by a man who was clinically insane trying to impress Jodi Foster, it had nothing to do with him as a president or his policies.

Let's face facts, folks; the Curse of Tippecanoe didn't work for Reagan, it sure as hell didn't work for Bush, and the American public was to apathetic about either to make a proactive effort to assinate either. WHAT CHANCE IN HELL is there of Obama being assinated? NONE.

[SolInvictus]

At 1/4/09 08:13 AM, CommisarGaunt wrote: i've heard speculation about him being prophesied to come and take over the world by nostradamus or some shit. sounded weird but he kind of fit the description.

Nostradamus was a hack. just saying.

[Tancrisism]

At 1/4/09 09:57 AM, jakobhummelen wrote: That's the same secret service whom let a reported throw a shoe at the head of president Bush... Obama isn't untouchable but I don't think there are a lot of people who want him dead.

They let a reporter throw a shoe at him - no one in the room was strapped with guns, and no one within probably a kilometer had any sort of suspicious looking metallic objects. They can't very well take everyone's shoe now can they?

At 1/4/09 01:40 PM, D2Kvirus wrote: No, I think the novelty will wear off when it turns out he's an empty shill with no policies, and he'll be the first black President to be voited out of office in four years time.

An optimist, eh? I think taking this opinion is just as valid and wise as those who are blindly supporters of him.

At 1/4/09 06:47 PM, Proteas wrote: WHAT CHANCE IN HELL is there of Obama being assinated? NONE.

I do hope you're right.

[EKublai]

He won't get assassinated. You couldn't see it much in the broadcast, but his acceptance speech at Grant Park had an insane amount of security there. EVERY OFFICER IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO was there, plus secret service. Also, there were visors in the crowd that blocked the buildings and skyscrapers from getting a view of obama to prevent sniper attacks. You were not allowed to go on the street where his office building was at unless you were checked and had good reason (i.e lived on that street) And they shut down the highway this morning so his motorcade could get to midway airport. This man is better protected than the most powerful of dictators.

[animehater]

At 1/4/09 06:16 PM, Al6200 wrote: If Obama was assassinated tomorrow, everyone would remember Obama for his campaign promises, and not any actual policy, and any historical mention of him would be very positive.

But what if Obama's death/martyrdom leads to race riots across the country? Wouldn't that be exactly what they would want?

[MultiCanimefan]

At 1/4/09 06:12 PM, wildfire4461 wrote: Don't forget what the Tin Foil Hat Brigade has to say about him.

I'm subscribed to that guy.

[Proteas]

At 1/4/09 10:08 PM, animehater wrote: martyrdom

In order to BE a martyr, you have to be given a choice between denouncing your faith or facing certain death because you refused to denounce your faith. Being assinated does not allow you the opprotunity to denounce anything because you are not told before hand that you're going to be killed for your beliefs.

So unless you want to kindly explain to me WHY you want to throw the word "Martyr" around in reference to a possible assination attempt on Obama's life when it was NEVER used in reference to other political leaders who have been assinated, I suggest you take this term and shove up your ass.

[Bolo]

At 1/4/09 10:39 PM, Proteas wrote: In order to BE a martyr, you have to be given a choice between denouncing your faith or facing certain death because you refused to denounce your faith. Being assinated does not allow you the opprotunity to denounce anything because you are not told before hand that you're going to be killed for your beliefs.

In the traditional sense, as defined by the Catholic Church and perhaps several other religious organizations, you are correct that a martyr must be given the choice of denouncing his or her faith before being killed. This term, of course, evolved in the early days of Roman Catholicism when the likes of Peter and the other apostles were put to death after having been given, by the Roman overseers in the area around modern-day Israel, the opportunity to renounce Christianity.

This is covered under the first official definition of the word martyr, as delineated over on dictionary.com (a compendium of dictionary sources ranging from Webster's to American Heritage):

1. a person who willingly suffers death rather than renounce his or her religion;

However, your interpretation of the word seems to neglect taking into account the secondary accepted definition of martyr, which, although it is a more modern interpretation of the word, is also definitely definition:

2. a person who is put to death or endures great suffering on behalf of any belief, principle, or cause;

The way that Obama might be construed as a martyr under this definition is that, as the first African-American president, he would seem to be a standard-bearer for the betterment of the African-American lifestyle, and the general welfare of minorities at large. If her were to be assassinated, minorities who looked up to him as a symbol of what they could achieve in life would believe that he had died on behalf of his cause of (in their view) social equality and improvement, possibly going so far as to paint him as a Jesus figure -- deservedly or not.

Being given the choice between denouncing religion and facing death is not necessarily a prerequisite of martyrdom under this more modern definition, as it clearly indicates that one only has to suffer or be killed on behalf of his or her beliefs. An assassination could surely fall into this category given certain circumstances as above described.