PeTA Gone WAY too far.

[diazepim]

There you go, typical PeTA nonsense. Anti-animal violence promoting violent images to kids "Your mommy kills animals".

http://www.peta-online.org/

Get a grip PeTA. That's it. Where's Wade's club a seal flash again?

[takeit2themax]

Yeah I bet the skank ho leader of peta drives around in a c-class mercedes with top grain leather cow hide seats. Dumb bitches

[Dagodevas]

Before TOMMY posts his “nothing is wrong about the PETA statements”, let me remind you of all of this.

http://www.augustachronicle.com/stories/031302/opi_046-1452.shtml

http://www.consumerfreedom.com/headline_detail.cfm?HEADLINE_ID=2088

http://www.sierratimes.com/03/08/07/ar_elf_peta.htm

http://www.fb.com/views/focus/fo2002/fo0311.html

http://www.fb.com/views/focus/fo2001/fo1008.html

http://www.rickross.com/reference/animal/animal42.html

http://www.pimpworks.org/politics/elf-peta.pdf

http://www.findarticles.com/cf...4971436/p4/article.jhtml?term=

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/2617732/detail.html

http://www.standard.net/standa....html?sid=00020219231014789707

PETA supports ALF/ELF. They support terrorism. Period.

[bumcheekcity]

I have nothing against the people who want more rights for animals, hell, i'm one of them, but this is unnecessary, disgusting and stupid. It isn't a good campaign and it doesn't readily gain support.

[NEMESiSZ]

Vegetarianism is great!

Club seals, not sandwhiches.

At 12/18/03 12:39 PM, diazepim wrote: Anti-animal violence

PETA likes violence inflicted upon animals? Are you sure you're not seeing everything ass-backwards here?

promoting violent images to kids

Because kids just love to spend their time on a PETA website. Furthermore, how does promoting violent images affect anything or anyone or any level?

"Your mommy kills animals".

Yes, how awful of them to show the reality of things. (albeit in a cartoonish way)

[heyitsjohn]

yea, these bastards should take a look and re-evaluate their agenda's. they want more rights for animals, but dont care if humans are killed in the process? bah, save you hamburger, kill a peta member is my motto. they are no better than the radical anti-abortion fools, who kill adults, women, and the unborn babies they are trying to save when they bomb women's clinics and such.

PETA members do not kill people, nor do ALF or ELF members, kthxbye.

[Dagodevas]

At 12/18/03 05:13 PM, punk_shithead wrote: PETA members do not kill people, nor do ALF or ELF members, kthxbye.

Let’s see here, ELF (who has been labeled by the FBI as terrorists) has…

* Set fire to the Vail Mountain ski resort (claimed responsibility).

* Planted explosives on the Ice Mountain Spring Water Co. water pumping facility (claimed responsibility).

* Firebombed a 206-unit apartment complex resulting in $50 million dollars in damages (claimed responsibly).

* Torched numerous SUV dealerships (all of which they claim responsibility for).

* Torched countless housing complexes (all of which they claim responsibility for).

* Many more acts of vandalism and arson.

ELF has claimed responsibility for over 600 of these terrorist acts which exceeds $100 million in damages. But because no one has be reported to be killed yet, you say that there’s nothing wrong with them. Quit making pathetic, naive excuses condoning these terrorist acts.

[takeit2themax]

I love animals, but I also hunt, and I also respect them. I love to eat meat and so do millions of other people. Which is exactly the reason humans were born with 4 k-9 teeth. I don't mind vegetarians but I hate listening to them bitch at us when we have a steak or even a fucking chicken.

[TheWakingDeath]

"the indians had a name for vergetarians; lousy hunter"
"P eople for the Eeating of Tasty Animals "
and most importantly
"if god didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them taste so good!"

[Jimsween]

At 12/18/03 06:03 PM, Dagodevas wrote:

ELF has claimed responsibility for over 600 of these terrorist acts which exceeds $100 million in damages. But because no one has be reported to be killed yet, you say that there’s nothing wrong with them. Quit making pathetic, naive excuses condoning these terrorist acts.

You see, in punk's eyes, if he disagrees with somebody, anyone has the right to disobey the law and destroy that persons property and even risk the lives of innocent people just to make a point.

What did you expect from somebody with an Anarchy symbol in his sig?

At 12/18/03 06:03 PM, Dagodevas wrote:

At 12/18/03 05:13 PM, punk_shithead wrote: PETA members do not kill people, nor do ALF or ELF members, kthxbye.

Let’s see here, ELF (who has been labeled by the FBI as terrorists) has…

Yes I know this for a fact. You may find a diary of actions at the ELF website, http://www.earthliberationfront.com/

But because no one has be reported to be killed yet, you say that there’s nothing wrong with them.

Quit kidding yourself, had someone died as a result of ELF actions you can be assured that the corporate media would've been all over that story. "If it bleeds, it leads"

Quit making pathetic, naive excuses condoning these terrorist acts.

Who exactly is being "terrorised" by these acts?

[takeit2themax]

People eating tasty animals thats some funny shit.

Also, PETA and ELF are two separate enties who are not related to each other in any way. One is a urban guerilla group who believes in direct action against corporate exploitation of greenspace and natural resources while the other is a non-profit organization who deals with the ethical treatment of animals.

[FUNKbrs]

Lets compromise. I'll quit eating animals, and start eating PETA members. Oh, and of I course, I think we should all follow Maddox's advice, and sponsor a vegetarian (couldn't find this article, however, I DID find this one

PETA isn't a vegetarian organization.

[FUNKbrs]

At 12/18/03 07:39 PM, punk_shithead wrote: PETA isn't a vegetarian organization.

Wow, that's strange, because I clearly remember seeing a video linked to on this very forum showing the cruelty of the meat industry on the PETA website.

[Dagodevas]

At 12/18/03 07:21 PM, punk_shithead wrote: Who exactly is being "terrorised" by these acts?

You don’t even know what terrorism is.

Terrorism: Acts of murder and/or destruction deliberately directed against civilians or military in non-military situations.

Note that I’m using ELF’s diary here that you gave me.

ELF TERRORISM LIST (PART 1)

October 28, 1996. Detroit, OR, USA

A U.S. Forest Service pickup is torched on the parking lot of the Detroit Ranger District headquarters. The building is spray-painted with "Earth Liberation Front" and anti-logging slogans. A incendiary device consisting of plastic jug is later found on the roof. It did not go off.

Damages: $15,000

November 29, 1997. Burns, OR, USA

The Bureau of Land Management (B.L.M.) Wild Horse Corrals were terrorized when their office, horse pen barns, tack room, corrals and chutes on the facility were all burnt to the ground while the 488 wild horses and 51 burros held captive were let free.

Damages: $450,000+

June 21, 1998. Olympia, WA, USA

The Earth Liberation Front (E.L.F.) and the Animal Liberation Front (A.L.F.) claimed joint responsibility for the destruction of two U.S.D.A. (U.S. Department of Agriculture) Animal Damage Control Buildings.

Damages: $1.5 million in research, along with $400,000 in structural damages.

July 3, 1998. Middleton, WI, USA

Independence Day for Fur Farm Prisoners" was painted at the United Vaccines laboratory during a daylight raid jointly claimed by the Earth Liberation Front and the Animal Liberation Front where holes in the fence were cut and 310 ferrets and mink were released. Equipment and windows were also destroyed.

Damages: $10,000+

October 19, 1998. Vail, CO, USA

The Earth Liberation Front took direct action to stop Vail's expansion by setting fire to three buildings and four ski lifts at Vail Inc. The luxurious (500 seat, 33,000 square foot) Two Elk restaurant, the Ski Patrol Headquarters and the Camp One picnic area, as well as the four ski lifts were all reduced to ashes

Damages: Between 12-24 million dollars

December 26, 1998, Medford, Oregon

The US Forest Industries is victimized by arson. The office was set ablaze and ELF claimed responsibility.

Damages: $700,000

December 25, 1999. Monmouth, Oregon

Fire destroyed the Boise Cascade main office. ELF claimed responsibility.

Damages: $1,000,000

December 31, 1999

Arson of the offices of Catherine Ives, Room 324, Agriculture Hall at Michigan State University. The offices were doused with gasoline and set afire.

Damages: $900,000

January 23, 2000. Bloomington, IN, USA

A fire destroyed a house at the Sterling Woods Development in the Bloomington area.

Damages: $200,000

February 9, 2000. University of Minnesota, Saint Paul, MN, USA

Crop Destruction

Damages: $1000+

March 24, 2000. Highway 55 reroute, Mineapolis, MN, USA

Extensive damage done to construction equipment

Damages: $500,000

April 30, 2000. Ind. 46 construction, Bloomington, IN, USA

At least six pieces of logging and heavy construction equipment are sabotaged and a trailer full of wood chips is set ablaze at a road construction site just outside the city.

Damages: $75,000+

July 21, 2000. Rhinelander, WI, USA

U.S. Forest Service - Forest Biotechnology Laboratory, the ELF cut down thousands of experimental trees, mostly poplars, and spray-paint vehicles.

Damages: $1 million damages in crop destruction & vandalism

October 18, 2000. Martin County State Forest in Indiana, USA

Logging equipment (Three skidders and a loader) had hoses cut, slash seats, destroy gauges and pour sand in the engines, fuel tanks and radiators.

Damages: $55,000

November 27, 2000. Longmont, CO, USA

Fire hits one of the first luxury homes going up in a new subdivision.

Damages: $500,000+

[Dagodevas]

ELF TERRORISM LIST (PART 2)

December 9, 2000. Middle Island, Long Island, NY, USA

Fire erupts in a condominium under construction.

Damages: $200,000+

December 19, 2000. Miller Place, Long Island, NY, USA

The ELF burn down a home under construction.

Damages: $50,000+

December 29, 2000. Mount Sinai, Long Island, NY, USA

The ELF burned down four new luxury homes at Island Estates.

Damages: $2 million

January 1, 2001. Glendale, OR.

The Earth Liberation Front (E.L.F.) has officially claimed responsibility for burning down the Superior Lumber Company offices in Glendale.

Damages: $400,000

Feb. 20, 2001 Visalia, Calif

The ELF claims fire at a research cotton gin owned by Delta & Pine Land, a firm accused of ties to Monsanto's genetically engineered seed program.

Damages: $700,000

March 5, 2001 Long Island, New York

The Earth Liberation Front claims responsibility for smashing over eight 10x10 insulated plate glass windows and one neon sign at the Old Navy Outlet Center in downtown Huntington, Long Island.

Damages: $1800

April 15, 2001 Portland, Ore.

The ELF set fire to cement trucks at Ross Island Sand & Gravel using time-delayed fuses.

Damages: $210,000

MAY 21, 2001 Seattle, Wash.

ELF burns an office and a fleet of 13 trucks at Jefferson Poplar Farms in Clatskanie, Oregon. The ELF simultaneously burned down the office of Toby Bradshaw at the University of Washington.

Damages: $5 million

Sept. 8, 2001 Tucson, Ariz.

ELF & ALF both claim joint responsibility for the arson of a McDonalds restaurant.

Damages: $500,000

Jan. 29, 2002 St. Paul, Minn.

ELF claims arson at the University of Minnesota's Microbial and Plant Genomics Research Center, which was under construction.

Damages: $250,000

Aug. 11, 2002 Irvine, Penn.

The ELF claims attack on the United States Forest Service Northeast Research Station in Irvine, Pennsylvania.

Damages: $700,000 in damages and destroying 70 years worth of research.

July-Oct, 2002 Richmond, Virginia

The ELF takes numerous actions against SUVS in and around Richmond.

Damages: $50,000-$100,000

Jan. 1, 2003 Erie, Penn.

ELF torches Bob Ferrando Ford Lincoln Mercury Dealership.

Damages: $90,000

March 21, 2003 Superior Township, Mich

ELF sets fire to two luxury homes in a Superior Township housing development.

Damages: $400,000

June 4, 2003 Macomb County, Mich.

ELF sets fire to two luxury homes in a Macomb County housing development.

Damages: $700,000

August 01,2003 San Diego, Calif.

ELF claims responsibility for the fire in San Diego, California, that destroyed an unfinished five-story condominium complex.

Damages: $50 million

August 22, 2003 West Covina, Calif.

ELF set fire to four different SUV dealerships.

Damages: $2.5 Million

September 19,2003 San Diego, Calif.

ELF claims responsibility for torching our homes.

Damages: $1 million

Total Damages: Over $100 Million

Think twice before you ask stupid questions.

[OpIvy420]

What the ALF and the ELF do is extreme, but so is what humans are doing to animals and the environment. They firebombed a few car dealerships and a ski resort? Logging companies have removed entire forests from the face of the Earth. The meat industry feeds chickens so many hormones that they are unable to stand up. These people are committed to doing whatever it takes to save the planet, and if that means keeping a few yuppies from buying new H2s, then so be it.

[Dagodevas]

At 12/18/03 07:24 PM, punk_shithead wrote: Also, PETA and ELF are two separate enties who are not related to each other in any way.

http://www.stopecoviolence.org/pdfs/3_07_02.pdf

Next thing you'll probably tell me is that Italy & Japan weren't part of the Axis during WW2.

At 12/18/03 07:57 PM, JudgeFUNK wrote: Wow, that's strange, because I clearly remember seeing a video linked to on this very forum showing the cruelty of the meat industry on the PETA website.

They're People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. One can eat meat and still fight for the ethical treatments of animals wether they're used for food or not. I eat meat but I'm against fur unless you happen to live beyond the arctic circle and you're an Inuit, I also believe that the meat industry should accept the cst of one cent per use of the captive bolt pistol to render the animals unconscious before killing it, chickens shouldn't have their beaks cut and burnt off, etc.

[Dagodevas]

At 12/18/03 08:51 PM, OpIvy420 wrote: What the ALF and the ELF do is extreme, but so is what humans are doing to animals and the environment. etc...

I don’t see how any of this justifies violence and terrorism. Doesn’t anyone believe in non-violent protest anymore or getting involved in politics? The only way ELF confronts their problems is with violence. Their “quest to protect the planet” is just an excuse for them to threaten other people and destroy their businesses that they’ve worked so hard to construct.

[JoS]

Has the dude who posted the meat your meat video ever come back here?

At 12/18/03 08:51 PM, Dagodevas wrote: http://www.stopecoviolence.org/pdfs/3_07_02.pdf

As for the donation, PETA President Ingrid Newkirk admits giving the money, but claims it was an honest mistake, that the money was supposed to go towards "public education about destruction of habitat".

This article is over a year old, don't you think that something would've happened between then and now?

Also, SEV is more than happy to fight eco-terrorism but does it promote ways of protecting the environment?

At 12/18/03 08:57 PM, Dagodevas wrote: Their “quest to protect the planet” is just an excuse for them to threaten other people and destroy their businesses that they’ve worked so hard to construct.

And how do you know this? Are you an ELF member? Also, when did CEOs of big corporations ever "work so hard"?

[OpIvy420]

At 12/18/03 08:57 PM, Dagodevas wrote: The only way ELF confronts their problems is with violence. Their “quest to protect the planet” is just an excuse for them to threaten other people and destroy their businesses that they’ve worked so hard to construct.

Do you think ANYONE would care what they had to say if they didn't use violence? The environment, something that should be a serious issue, is treated like some kind of antique hippie concern. September 11th proved that the one thing Americans understand is violence. They don't care about diplomacy, about calm, rational debate, but they will notice destruction, because it's big, loud, and shiny. It's unfortunate that Americans are conditioned to only react to fire and explosions, but don't blame the ELF, blame Jerry Bruckheimer.

[Dagodevas]

At 12/18/03 09:09 PM, punk_shithead wrote: As for the donation, PETA President Ingrid Newkirk admits giving the money, but claims it was an honest mistake, that the money was supposed to go towards "public education about destruction of habitat".

This article is over a year old, don't you think that something would've happened between then and now?

I don’t see the point you’re trying to make. Al I see is a pathetic apology/lie for being caught in the act on PETA’s behalf.

[Dagodevas]

At 12/18/03 09:12 PM, punk_shithead wrote: And how do you know this? Are you an ELF member?

What a silly question. Do I sound like an ELF member? Didn't I just prove to you and everyone reading that ELF is destroying homes and businesses in the name of protecting the Earth? Do I have to rub it in your face?

Also, when did CEOs of big corporations ever "work so hard"?

That's entirely a matter of opinion. But hey, what about those people who worked to build those homes and offices? The people whose whose lives were those car dealerships or resorts? Is ELF going to compensate them for their loss? Excuses.