At 8/19/09 12:14 PM, CypressDahlia wrote:
At 8/19/09 12:06 PM, GlassBomb wrote:
Ah, but see. Isn't it at the liberty of the artist to say it's "just a style"? As in, if your anatomy is bad, you could say it's just a style choice. I've encountered that a lot on NG. I'm not saying you do it, or that you would do it. But that's a downfall of many cartoon artists. They get too comfortable with their liberties.
I don't want to sound too defensive (no doubt I will) but you can't just say that cartooning doesn't have any rules, perspective comes into play (although I'm certainly bad at displaying that right now) anatomy comes into play (which I'd like to think I'm getting better at) and of course color theory is a big part of cartooning.
And no, no, I'm not talking about portraits, still lifes--I meant no drawing from reference. It's basically like: "how well do I understand reality in art?"
Because I mean, draw from reference is a good learning method, but should never be the standard practice. Because that, too, is another thing a lot of artists indulge in. And then when you give them a blank piece of paper and say "draw something", they come up short.
And hey, you don't have to do it if you're not comfortable with it. I'm just saying, it'd be nice to see.
Yeah no I completely agree, I hate people who say "well that's just my style" I for one take full responsability when it comes to my fuck ups in art (I tend not to go back to fix them I hate working on something longer than I intended, I just make sure to fix whatever I did wrong in my next drawing)
For example, I fucked up gluttony's right horn, which, while I was intending to make it shorter, it still looks fucked up due to lack of perspective, his (stage right) breast doesn't look like it's coming into contact with his arm (probably because I drew a different arm pose after the fact) but the list goes on and on.
I can already tell after having roamed the art forum for a short amount of time that a lot of people here are incredibly defensive of their "art" and couldn't be comfortable with criticism if they tried.
On another note, there may be a misunderstanding here but I don't draw from reference, and If I do, I try and draw the same thing later on another piece of paper, to see how well I understood what I had drawn.
Reference does help incredibly though, but I agree, it shouldn't be used as a crutch, then it just comes off as hashed and unoriginal, and the only ideas you're left with are something from an image on a computer screen.