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The only way is to attack back. If we will attack so the world will come and see what really happen there. Then they will tell us to stop but also tell them to stop.

The main problem is that this airstrike and further activities in the region is exactly what Hamas wanted by firing the rockets into Israel.

For me, the only way I would criticise Isreal is if they just indiscriminately fired rockets & bombs into Gaza. THese so called Hamas Revolutionary Fighters need to come out from behind the children and other people they are using as human sheilds & and try to push their B.S. dogma down Isreals throat.
But they all know they are incapable of taking anyone on face to face all they have is intimidation & terror that they use ... They are presently not allowing wounded to get help from Eygpt who has medical personel & equipment at the Rafah crossing That they are using force to stop the people they are suppose to be helping is nothing short of a criminal act.

At 12/27/08 04:47 PM, Tancrisism wrote:

At 12/27/08 02:55 PM, heroicspatula wrote: Again, I know, but when fighting against an enemy who has the citizens backing them, your best bet is to win the citizens.

You must realize, though, that it is rather hard to concentrate on diplomatic efforts when your citizens are getting pounded by 70 rockets a day. It leaves little room to concentrate on anything but military retaliation.

I get that, what I mean is that the only way this will ever stop is if Israel can get the people behind them. They tried for a while(sending in food/medicine, etc) but what I've been saying is more of a "if it was possible" type thing.

Yeah, it is, but since I'm trying to keep things simplified, I gave those small ideas.
The Mossad is what I believe to the best bet to stop these attacks; all Israel needs to do is remove top level Hamas. If you don't know, the Mossad is good at those kinds of assassinations.

Perhaps. Chances are they have actually already been working pretty hard at doing something like that, I think. This isn't a time of espionage, though. Right now I think their reaction was pretty understandable, although I wonder what it will lead to.

I didn't say that it wasn't, and I agree with what the did. But as I said above, it was more of a "if possible" thing.
As for the Mossad, they should be taking out the heads of Hamas. It may not be a time of espionage, but the Mossad is designed to protect Israel, and assassinations are one of their strong suites.

At 12/27/08 11:44 PM, Creek wrote:

I think Israel is going about this the wrong way. They should attack Hamas, but no civilian casualties should be accepted; all it does is allow for more hatred towards Israel, and more propaganda for Hamas.

I'm sorry, but this sounds ridiculous. I wish you were exposed to more information before making this assumption. I will attempt to give you a better perspective on how Israel conducts the attacks, and they way Palestinians are involved.

Damn, I should have replied the other day, that way you would get what I meant. I was saying this as in a "if at all possible" type scenario. I understand that Hamas fights dirty, but if it WERE possible, it would be what they should do.

I think Israel needs to either A) not carpet bomb, I.E. have determined targets or B) Have a department of the Mossad (Israeli equivalent of the CIA) focus on Gaza, and conduct attacks when necessary.

It's much more complicated than you think.

I think it's much more complicated then you think. So what do you suggest, Israel reoccupying? Mossad?? to stop every single rocket? impossible! Israel has no other way to retaliate Hamas has forced itself into this situation.

Just a simple idea, not set in stone or anything.
As for the Mossad, maybe you didn't see my other post, but I was referring more to assassinations of top hamas officers.

Try to understand that Hamas wants civilian casualties, they are useful propaganda tools. As you see in yourself, they cause you to sympathize. Keep another thing in mind, If that man (the father) says anything Hamas doesn't want him to say, he will die. Nobody goes against the government in that region, it's not America.

I sympathize with no one. I was looking at it in terms of propaganda and future hatred towards Israel.

Clearly the news source is extremely unbiased.

At 12/28/08 09:37 PM, AbsintheClock wrote: Clearly the news source is extremely unbiased.

Biased? These are Israeli, not Arabs.

Not to mention that Haaretz are a left wing news.

At 12/28/08 09:49 PM, Doonie wrote:

At 12/28/08 09:37 PM, AbsintheClock wrote: Clearly the news source is extremely unbiased.

Biased? These are Israeli, not Arabs.

Not to mention that Haaretz are a left wing news.

Right, because the Arabic news sources are the only sources that have a bias.

Regardless of the source's bias, other sources have confirmed that rockets have been being fired lately. It's the information that counts, try to avoid their conclusion and make your own after comparing it with other sources.

Of course rockets have been fired. Israel closed off Gaza strip's borders even during the ceasefire starving the people to death. Also there is a large difference between Hamas and Palestinians as a whole. This is nothing more than Israel trying to make a case to gain back the Gaza strip. Then again when you've got a hammer everything looks like a nail.

Also did you know during the ceasefire Israeli soldiers killed 28 Palestinians. As for the reports of the rockets the figures are exaggerated. The proper estimate of rockets before the bombings was around 66. I don't care what's "left wing" or "right wing" a bias is a bias.

As for the support of Israel in western countries it's simply a matter of people trying not to piss off the Jewish people that live in the country. That'll make them lose votes, and nobody likes to lose votes. And yes I am saying that Jewish people are more inclined to support Israel than Palestine.

But I'm going to guess that you're going to say I'm misinformed, and that bombing innocent civilians in order to target a few extremists is acceptable. I'm not going to change your opinion, I just wanted to say in an educated way that you're full of shit.

What the Palestine people want, and the rest of the Arabs, is to claim the land of the Temple Mount as it contains al-Aqsa Mosque.

I mean, they're not shooting these rockets for random terrorism. Until they can actually share one city, which I doubt will ever happen, I don't see this conflict ever get resolved.

At 12/29/08 03:06 AM, AbsintheClock wrote: Of course rockets have been fired. Israel closed off Gaza strip's borders even during the ceasefire starving the people to death. Also there is a large difference between Hamas and Palestinians as a whole. This is nothing more than Israel trying to make a case to gain back the Gaza strip. Then again when you've got a hammer everything looks like a nail.

ROFL, and you call the news biased? That's the most ridiculous, stupid one sided reply i have ever seen. The Israeli journalism is one of the most free, professional news in the world.
One thing is sure. biased than you.

Of course rockets have been fired?
The Gaza strip's borders were closed because there were rockets shot during the ceasefire. It wasn't really a cease fire, at least for the Hamas.

There's a difference? The Palestinians chose Hamas democratically, the knew what they stand for. Killing and fighting. They chose them. Now they can't fucking whine. They represent them, there is not difference.

They had a chance for peace, but they chose Hamas. Israel made one sided disengagement plan, another missed opportunity.
"Starve to death", Gaza is flooded with foods and oil. Again, you are brainwashed by the Arab propaganda, you feed from biased sources, and then claim others are biased? Look in Africa, that's being starved. Look in Gaza, they are fat.

What will Israel earn from conquering Gaza again? What do you think they earn? Nothing.
The only reason they attack is to stop the rockets, and to bring down Hamas.
Who is still, for some reason, being backed by people like you.

Also did you know during the ceasefire Israeli soldiers killed 28 Palestinians. As for the reports of the rockets the figures are exaggerated. The proper estimate of rockets before the bombings was around 66. I don't care what's "left wing" or "right wing" a bias is a bias.

Also did you know that these Palestinians were killed in the West bank? There was no cease fire in the west bank. Also did you know when you say "People", you should change it when Terrorists. There were 28 Terrorists killed by the Israeli forces. You biased lying fuck.

This is the proper amount of rockets, the Hamas site you are updating yourself from, is not what id call accurate.

If there's someone biased here, it's you,

As for the support of Israel in western countries it's simply a matter of people trying not to piss off the Jewish people that live in the country. That'll make them lose votes, and nobody likes to lose votes. And yes I am saying that Jewish people are more inclined to support Israel than Palestine.

There's not support, everyone support the Arabs. Because of the massive worldwide propaganda campaign they did in the last few years.

I seriously can't understand how you support those extreme radical Muslim terrorists, i seriously can't. World of hypocrites.

But I'm going to guess that you're going to say I'm misinformed, and that bombing innocent civilians in order to target a few extremists is acceptable. I'm not going to change your opinion, I just wanted to say in an educated way that you're full of shit.

That's exactly what i'm doing. Just because you predicted it, only shows i'm right.

Bombing innocent civilians to target few extremists? Have you even checked the numbers. Why do you think the Arabs use the term "People"? Because they know Israel killed 99% of Hamas officers. Considering Hamas uses them as human shields, considering that's in gaza. That's an ACHIEVEMENT.
If Israel would have hit civilians, you'd see "OGMOGM EVIL NAZI STATE ISRAWEL KILLED HUNDREDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO JUST SIT THERE AND WANTeD TO LIVE OMG" Innocent Gazans? I don't think there's such a thing anyway.

At 12/28/08 04:01 PM, Tancrisism wrote: The main problem is that this airstrike and further activities in the region is exactly what Hamas wanted by firing the rockets into Israel.

This classic terrorist strategy works well only until a point. Inevitably kill civilians in airstrikes and people become outraged and proudly support Hamas and terrorism. But only so long as they are spared any real suffering.
Look at the "Sunni Revolution" in Iraq. Sunni extremist groups and clerics supported Al-Queda and others in the beginning because they believed doing so would improve their situation (more political influence, weakening of Shiite factions). After a few years and hundreds of suicide bombings later, it became clear that not only did the Americans not back down and offer support, but the Shiites actually became stronger, with stronger numbers in government and with militias supported by Iran and in some cases the US. It didn't matter how many errant US bombs fell or how many Sunnis were slaughtered by militia death squads. In the end, the Sunnis chose to cooperate.

Hamas is a grassroots organization with popular support, and its military capabilities aren't built upon factories and technology but people and cheap weapons. The average Palestinian is not going to appreciate the fact that Israel spends lots of money on precision weaponry, he will only be angry at what he will always view as injustice and aggression. The only way to defeat Hamas is to make the Palestinians suffer so greatly that they themselves will abandon Hamas and the pride that inspires them to fight. Life itself will become the most important thing to them; rhetoric about the Holy Land, martrydom, and roadblocks will be forgotten.

At 12/28/08 04:36 PM, heroicspatula wrote: I didn't say that it wasn't, and I agree with what the did. But as I said above, it was more of a "if possible" thing.
As for the Mossad, they should be taking out the heads of Hamas. It may not be a time of espionage, but the Mossad is designed to protect Israel, and assassinations are one of their strong suites.

What would that accomplish? By taking out the heads of Hamas all that will happen is new people will rise up and replace them. This creates a worse situation since Intelligence knows nothing about the new guys.

At 12/29/08 03:06 AM, AbsintheClock wrote: Of course rockets have been fired. Israel closed off Gaza strip's borders even during the ceasefire starving the people to death. Also there is a large difference between Hamas and Palestinians as a whole. This is nothing more than Israel trying to make a case to gain back the Gaza strip. Then again when you've got a hammer everything looks like a nail.

You really think Israel wants the Gaza strip that badly? Please explain.

Also did you know during the ceasefire Israeli soldiers killed 28 Palestinians. As for the reports of the rockets the figures are exaggerated. The proper estimate of rockets before the bombings was around 66. I don't care what's "left wing" or "right wing" a bias is a bias.

I don't doubt it (well, I do, but I doubt nearly everything that I read until I can back it up, so don't feel offended), but I would like to see a source.

As for the support of Israel in western countries it's simply a matter of people trying not to piss off the Jewish people that live in the country. That'll make them lose votes, and nobody likes to lose votes. And yes I am saying that Jewish people are more inclined to support Israel than Palestine.

Perhaps they are. I am a quarter Jewish, though, and I don't support Israel. I don't support Palestine either; I support the Israeli people and the Palestinian people.

But I'm going to guess that you're going to say I'm misinformed, and that bombing innocent civilians in order to target a few extremists is acceptable. I'm not going to change your opinion, I just wanted to say in an educated way that you're full of shit.

I'm curious who this is directed towards. I think if you read anything I wrote before immediately posting the bias you might have realized that I am not sold by the ridiculously present pro-Israeli sentiment in the West, nor by the Palestinian propaganda that groups like Hamas use to pervert the situation. I am merely trying to find the truth, something unbelievably difficult in this situation, as the poster just above me who replied to your post shows (as, truly, does your post show as well).

The saddest thing is that I read in the paper not 3 days before this shit that they released 200 prisoners as a gesture.
They never fucking learn.

There is somthing u guys don't understand!
Israel is attacked from Gaza for 8 years!.. I want to see how u react when someone bomb u'r house for 8 years. .
Israel have the rights to defend herself and her citizents! moreover Israel defend the palestines people.
the arabs have 22 countris to go to . the jewish have just one little place called Israel .
And if u want to talk religion so in the Quran the word "jerusalem" donsn't exist even 1 time!!

I don't understand how the world can support place that terror orginaztion is control there instead of help Israel and help for freedom in the middle east.

At 12/30/08 07:15 AM, squidweed wrote: There is somthing u guys don't understand!
Israel is attacked from Gaza for 8 years!.. I want to see how u react when someone bomb u'r house for 8 years. .
Israel have the rights to defend herself and her citizents! moreover Israel defend the palestines people.
the arabs have 22 countris to go to . the jewish have just one little place called Israel .
And if u want to talk religion so in the Quran the word "jerusalem" donsn't exist even 1 time!!

So? The King James Bible doesn't mention the Mormon's exodus to Utah. What's your point?

I don't understand how the world can support place that terror orginaztion is control there instead of help Israel and help for freedom in the middle east.

Well, after trying to decipher your writing, I think mostly I agree. Hamas is mostly at fault here, but the situation is much more complex than you seem to think it.

I think you guys should read thisabout the IDF's attempts to minimize civilian casualties.

Correct Link (sorry!)

At 12/30/08 04:44 PM, TimeLordX wrote: Correct Link (sorry!)

Wait wait wait.

Is there any doubt here on the fact that Israeli is not trying to hit civilans? And are doing what ever they can to avoid it?

Israelis are fighting Terrorists. Hamas are Terrorists. They are hiding behind the people they claim to protect, trying to hit Israeli citizens at the same time. But people are stupid enough to support them.

Palestinian girl, her house collapsed from Israeli Hamas bombign thrust, look who she blamed. Very brave girl, they probably executed her already.

Here's a solution... take the sherburn approach, israel does nothing for a week to ten days, doesn't even react to hammas attacks. If the attacks continue following the 10th day or afterward Israel gives itself the right to nuke anybody it likes, because israel can't take the blame for the violence that happens after the 10th day, since it hasn't done anything in the past 10 days.

At 12/31/08 02:39 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: Here's a solution... take the sherburn approach, israel does nothing for a week to ten days, doesn't even react to hammas attacks. If the attacks continue following the 10th day or afterward Israel gives itself the right to nuke anybody it likes, because israel can't take the blame for the violence that happens after the 10th day, since it hasn't done anything in the past 10 days.

It's been like that up to a few days ago.
Oh it appears I need to write some more text because Newgrounds won't let me post.

At 12/31/08 02:39 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: Here's a solution... take the sherburn approach, israel does nothing for a week to ten days, doesn't even react to hammas attacks. If the attacks continue following the 10th day or afterward Israel gives itself the right to nuke anybody it likes, because israel can't take the blame for the violence that happens after the 10th day, since it hasn't done anything in the past 10 days.

Been there, done that.
The world doesn't care, they only care when "the poor and the oppressed" are killed, the Arab propaganda is much more powerful and influential.
Also, Today there are military reasons that make this pretty impossible.

The blame lies 100% with Israeli and Hamas leadership. This is a complete step in the wrong direction for both countries, and it's a complete disappointment.

These people will never survive unless they start depending on each other for survival. This conflict will only subside in one of two ways:

1) They work together for common prosperity
2) Fighting intensified, and finally one side sparks a domino effect of getting other countries involved.

This region is like a dual glitch/virus in the grand fabric of international politics: what happens there will strike an echo in the surrounding region. Human nature isn't meant to remain under these conditions, and neither side is budging from the land. The annihilation of either will ensure long-lasting consequences.

Devoted service to the agenda of only Israel or Palestine is death wish for the world to burn.

At 12/31/08 05:53 PM, Nylo wrote: Devoted service to the agenda of only Israel or Palestine is death wish for the world to burn.

No, not really. The destruction of the Palestinian people would lead to no long term consequences because the Arab states lack the capability to do anything about it. Israel will nuke any country that invades, and any organized reprisal on US forces or interests in the region would be handily defeated (the US public would support a defensive war). Neither would these countries attempt to end oil exports since they depend on the revenue for their economies. Plus, we would probably confiscate the billions of dollars in US treasury bonds that oil-rich nations like Saudi Arabia possess.

The jihadist movement possess no real power. It only exists because the West is too weak to cause civilians to suffer even if it means quashing unconditional hatred and militancy.

At 12/31/08 05:53 PM, Nylo wrote: The blame lies 100% with Israeli and Hamas leadership. This is a complete step in the wrong direction for both countries, and it's a complete disappointment.

Only Hamas are to be blamed, and they again, they are not a country.

These people will never survive unless they start depending on each other for survival. This conflict will only subside in one of two ways:

1) They work together for common prosperity
2) Fighting intensified, and finally one side sparks a domino effect of getting other countries involved.

Hamas is a terror organization in control of Gaza, if you haven't understood that yet.
Hamas quotes :

"Before Israel dies, it must be humiliated and degraded. Allah willing, before they die, they will experience humiliation and degradation every day."

"Israel is not a legitimate entitity, and no amount of pressure can force us to recognize its right to exist"

""If you do not vote Hamas, God will punish you at the end."

They are brainwashing their people, they are suicide bombing terrorists. They asked to be recognized by Israel, and whine to the world about the "Israeli occupation", but THEY don't recognize Israel themselves, which is hilarious. They use their people as human shields, and shoot rockets into Israeli cities.

The Palestinians authorities are splitted to two, the West-Bank, and Gaza.
In the West Bank they didn't choose a crazy fanatic Muslim terror organization to government, and tey don't die.

Again, they are not a country, and never were a country. Hamas are using guerilla warfare, knowingly endangering their own people, in order to shoot rockets at Israeli cities.

--The thing that prevents them from becoming independent state are the terror organization that control them, and that they choose to control them. But why would the terror organization cease to exist if they are getting backed by the world? They win anyway.

Why is it so hard for people to understand?

This region is like a dual glitch/virus in the grand fabric of international politics: what happens there will strike an echo in the surrounding region. Human nature isn't meant to remain under these conditions, and neither side is budging from the land. The annihilation of either will ensure long-lasting consequences.

Devoted service to the agenda of only Israel or Palestine is death wish for the world to burn.

The annihilation of either? Israel is capable of destroying Gaza ten thousand times. The war here for the tenth time, is agains a guerilla Islamic terror organization, and as a result, sadly, people are killed, but a war is war, and they brought Hamas on themselves.

Israel is the only democratic state in the mideast, with free media, human rights, and is basically like every normal western state. We are surrounded by bunch of fascist radical Islamic dictatorships, trying to destroy us again and again, the thing they became good at lately, is propaganda. And that is annoying and frustrating. (AGAIN, WE ARE ONLY FIGHTING HAMAS-CONTROLLED GAZA, AND NOT "PALESTINE", THERE IS NO PALESTINE")

I'll conclude
We can destroy them 1000000000000000000 times if we want, they want to destroy us, but can't. They are shooting rockets from schools, hostpitals, mosques, knowingly and INTENTIONALLY endangering their population. (Ironically, dead Palestinians is Hamas's goal. Propaganda. Israelis actually care about their enemy lifes more than themselves). When we come to bring down them, we get criticized. What the fuck?

At 12/27/08 11:44 PM, Creek wrote:

I think Israel is going about this the wrong way. They should attack Hamas, but no civilian casualties should be accepted; all it does is allow for more hatred towards Israel, and more propaganda for Hamas.

I'm sorry, but this sounds ridiculous. I wish you were exposed to more information before making this assumption. I will attempt to give you a better perspective on how Israel conducts the attacks, and they way Palestinians are involved.

Have you ever heard of human shields? Palestinian civilians amongst the terrorists?
Palestinians fight dirty. How dirty? They hold children in front of their body's while a terrorist fires at Israeli soldiers.

Why? They know the Israeli soldiers would hesitate to attack because they can possibly shoot a child by accident. K

eep in mind not everyone all the time can shoot with 100% accuracy, and that's where the civilian casualties come from. Now for the palestinians this is a win-win scenario.

If they use civilians as human shields, they might possibly not get shot back at. If the civilians die, they are used as propaganda tools. BBC would have a headline similiar to this "Israeli soldiers kill 2 terrorists and 7 civilians including children"

I think Israel needs to either A) not carpet bomb, I.E. have determined targets or B) Have a department of the Mossad (Israeli equivalent of the CIA) focus on Gaza, and conduct attacks when necessary.

It's much more complicated than you think.

I think it's much more complicated then you think. So what do you suggest, Israel reoccupying? Mossad?? to stop every single rocket? impossible! Israel has no other way to retaliate Hamas has forced itself into this situation.

Try to understand that Hamas wants civilian casualties, they are useful propaganda tools. As you see in yourself, they cause you to sympathize. Keep another thing in mind, If that man (the father) says anything Hamas doesn't want him to say, he will die. Nobody goes against the government in that region, it's not America.

Here are the latest Statistics on Casualties.

ISRAEL:

Deaths: 4
Civillians: 3 (I think one was an arab carpenter... I still feel bad for him and his family though...)
Soldiers: 1
Injuries:
All: 31 (Mostly Civillians and mild)
Force:
Troops: 176,000 (Most not fighting but working in Israel).
And Atleast 80 fighting planes and helicopters.

Damage: Some buildings damaged, most not seriously. One hit an empty school with no casualties. I have some cousins in Ashkelon so that is a concern, but they have a bomb shelter.

Protests: Some for both sides.

GAZA:

Deaths: 350 (Majority Hamas Millitants)

Injuries: Over 1,400 (a few hundred Seriously give or take)

Force:
20,000 troops and a few Son of the Fucking Bitch Iranians helping out.

Damage: Vast majority of Hamas buildings wrecked or atleast damaged. Some Public buildings damaged but to a MUCH lesser extent. Hey, I may be Pro Israel, but I feel bad for the Arab Civillians too...

Protests: Several Anti-Semetic ones.

EGYPT

Deaths: 1 Egyptian Borderguard Killed by Palestinean Gunmen.

Protests: Several, mostly anti Israel.

DENMARK:

Injuries: 2 Israeli's shot at a mall (both light injuries) They were shot in the leg and arm. Both are ok.

Protests: Denmark is known to be a very pro Israeli/Jewish nation. It had saved over 80% of it's Jewish population from the Holocaust. Not surprisingly, most protests are Pro Israeli. Yet, there is a small number of Pro-Palestinean protests.

USA:

Injuries: 1 Pro Israeli American Christian was injured while entering a Pro Palestinean March and shouting out that Israel has the right to protect itself. He was injured very mildly.
Protests: Several, with mixed supporting of either Israel or Palestine.

I myself am VERY pro Israel. And I think Israel is going to win! (:

At 12/30/08 04:54 PM, zoolrule wrote:

At 12/30/08 04:44 PM, TimeLordX wrote: Correct Link (sorry!)

Wait wait wait.

Is there any doubt here on the fact that Israeli is not trying to hit civilans? And are doing what ever they can to avoid it?

Israelis are fighting Terrorists. Hamas are Terrorists. They are hiding behind the people they claim to protect, trying to hit Israeli citizens at the same time. But people are stupid enough to support them.

Palestinian girl, her house collapsed from Israeli Hamas bombing thrust, look who she blamed. Very brave girl, they probably executed her already.

Unfortunately, several people of the world, including about 1/3 the USA and Japan, are ignorant in this issue. Luckily, the USA and Most of the other governments are not.

True, Israel is trying to avoid all the civilian casualties it can. Unfortunately, there is a Palestinians who have the balls to keep on complaining over those few who died.To my view, Israel is very successful at avoiding deaths of civilians.

Technically, Israel is winning though. Israel, from 1947 onward, I never saw lose to any palestinean nation or even the USSR. Even in "tough" wars like 2006's Lebanon, or that war Golda Meir resigned because of, Israel has always been able to destroy a bunch of the enemies Soldiers and Material. In 1948, Israel defeated every surrounding Arab nation which attacked even with a TINY amount of Weapons and Airforce. And with a very small population. Remember, this was JUST AFTER ISRAEL ASKED IT'S SURROUNDING NATIONS FOR PEACE.

I am just concerned over my cousins. They live in Ashkelon and Tel-Aviv. I used to live in Tel Aviv. But people, one thing's for sure. God, IS on Israel's side.

At 1/1/09 06:54 AM, mangostenmaster wrote: one thing's for sure. God, IS on Israel's side.

I'm trying to understand if you are joking.. but if not.
No, god isn't on the Israeli side, and don't say it because you make Israelis look bad. Especially because most of the Israelis aren't religious and you make it look like they are.

At 1/1/09 07:13 AM, zoolrule wrote:

At 1/1/09 06:54 AM, mangostenmaster wrote: one thing's for sure. God, IS on Israel's side.

I'm trying to understand if you are joking.. but if not.
No, god isn't on the Israeli side, and don't say it because you make Israelis look bad. Especially because most of the Israelis aren't religious and you make it look like they are.

No, I am not Israeli. I lived in Israel for a year or two, but I am not Israeli. No, it isn't a joke... I know that most Israelis aren't religious. Just remember, a small share of them are. And the majority of Israeli's are jewish. But I do believe in God and if you have a problem with that... whether if your atheist or some sort of mad doubtful man, keep to your own business...

Piss off!!!