Easy Muisic?

[Jeckellotus]

So i just picked up a guitar for the very first time yesterday and ive done smoke on the water but past that i dont know any really easy songs for begginers. Can someone help me out please? Im not doing sheet muisic im doing tabs so any tabs of songs you know would be great but if you dont i just need the song name THANK YOU!!!

[Jeckellotus]

Oh and i snapped my high E string so songs without a High E are appreciated

[Phoog]

Have a little look at some pop punk. Blink 182, Sum 41, all that sort of jibber jabber. Some of it's pretty easy to play.

[Krank]

hot cross buns

[S3C]

Stop using tabs.

[Phoog]

At 12/3/08 11:53 AM, S3C wrote: Stop using tabs.

Why would that help?

[CWN]

At 12/3/08 12:07 PM, Ambimetric wrote:

At 12/3/08 11:53 AM, S3C wrote: Stop using tabs.

Why would that help?

Because playing with tabs doesn't train anything and most importantly: most tabs you find on the internet are WRONG.
Learning by ear is a lot funner and trains numerous qualities.

Try learning something by Nirvana, like Come As You Are. That's probably the easiest song to play I know.

[Hades]

At 12/3/08 01:46 PM, CWN wrote: ...a lot funner...

Rule 10.

Tabs are good to start off with, I wouldn't stop using them at least in the first period of playing.

[Phoog]

I wouldn't stop using them fullstop.
But to be fair, I wouldn't follow them as a bible either.

[HaniiPuppy]

At 12/3/08 01:48 PM, Hades0013 wrote: Rule 10.

What's Rule 10?

[LucreOnBeats]

Not to sound condescending, but you've gotten some noob advice, i.e., advice that will hardly help you (if at all).

Tabs are okay to start out with if you just want to get to playing, but it really is important to learn actual theory so you can do some of the more advanced things on guitar. However, as far as easy songs go, anything by Weezer, Green Day, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Nirvana, Blink 182, The White Stripes (especially The White Stripes) and all those power chord-loving popular "rock" bands are very basic simple chord structures. Tabs are quite often wrong, or in the cases in which they're the right notes, they're in a different tuning (prepare to see Drop D-tuning quite a bit, as it is made 4 n00bz0rz) and often leave you kerfuddled.

Help will come in the form of a chord book. Train yourself on the majors and minors first, then work you way to bar chords (7ths, 9ths, etc.) and you'll find tablature a lot easier. The sooner you know your chords, the sooner you'll recognize just how n00b so-called "professional" musicians are (on the radio, that is). Once you're comfortable with your chord playing and tablature knowledge, I would then highly suggest you go learn yourself some theory, since this will be about the time you're ready to start sounding bad**s.

[CWN]

Yup. Simply taking some guitar lessons can't hurt either.

[SmdSkata]

At 12/3/08 06:09 PM, CWN wrote: Yup. Simply taking some guitar lessons can't hurt either.

Yeah but for only 6 months. After that its pretty much useless. Atleast in my opinion.

[Hades]

At 12/3/08 06:14 PM, SmdSkata wrote: Yeah but for only 6 months. After that its pretty much useless. Atleast in my opinion.

Did you learn e.g. sweep picking after 6 months?

[Darkmaster603]

While I agree tabs are somethign that shouldn't be used ALL THE TIME, I disagree with you guys saying don't use tabs. For gutiar, tab is like sheet music. I say what the hell, use tabs, but it helps to figure out songs yourself.

The first song I learned was Offend in Everyway by the white stripes, its pretty easy.

[SmdSkata]

At 12/3/08 06:17 PM, Hades0013 wrote:

At 12/3/08 06:14 PM, SmdSkata wrote: Yeah but for only 6 months. After that its pretty much useless. Atleast in my opinion.

Did you learn e.g. sweep picking after 6 months?

Nah I went for a year, and we never did sweep picking. Learned scales, but no sweep. According to my uncle also, he belives that after a period of time, you need to be on your own to develop your own style. And from what I see, once you know the basics, you should be able to pick up up a guitar learn by yourself.

[Darkmaster603]

At 12/3/08 06:25 PM, SmdSkata wrote:

At 12/3/08 06:17 PM, Hades0013 wrote:

At 12/3/08 06:14 PM, SmdSkata wrote: Yeah but for only 6 months. After that its pretty much useless. Atleast in my opinion.

Did you learn e.g. sweep picking after 6 months?

Nah I went for a year, and we never did sweep picking. Learned scales, but no sweep. According to my uncle also, he belives that after a period of time, you need to be on your own to develop your own style. And from what I see, once you know the basics, you should be able to pick up up a guitar learn by yourself.

I dissagree with this too, even people who have been playing for decades STILL get lessons. Why? because they help. Paul Giblert even went to music collage for a few years. Randy Rhoads was quiting ozzy to get classical guitar lessons at a collage. Seriously, People get lessons for years. Nothing to be ashamed about.

[SmdSkata]

At 12/3/08 06:45 PM, Darkmaster603 wrote: I dissagree with this too, even people who have been playing for decades STILL get lessons.

Lessons just didn't seem to be going anywhere...oh well :(

[S3C]

At 12/3/08 06:14 PM, SmdSkata wrote:

At 12/3/08 06:09 PM, CWN wrote: Yup. Simply taking some guitar lessons can't hurt either.

Yeah but for only 6 months. After that its pretty much useless. Atleast in my opinion.

Umm, what?

My piano teacher has been playing for decades, (I'd say atleast 40 years), and he still gets occasional piano lessons, from those that are more experienced then him. People who go to colleges to get a degree in a instrument probably have been learning since their childhood, and still take lessons to make them into professionals. And from there, you still should seek advice from teachers. Music is a neverending process, unless you're some God, there will ALWAYS be a way you can improve your skills.

I understand, once youve been more accustomed to your instrument and know how to practice, lessons are less needed, but far from useless.

[S3C]

At 12/3/08 06:18 PM, Darkmaster603 wrote: While I agree tabs are somethign that shouldn't be used ALL THE TIME, I disagree with you guys saying don't use tabs. For gutiar, tab is like sheet music. I say what the hell, use tabs, but it helps to figure out songs yourself.

The first song I learned was Offend in Everyway by the white stripes, its pretty easy.

First off, sorry for not reading your previous post. I see that my post above pretty much gives out the same message that you did, lol.

Guitar tabs are not sheet music for guitar for the fact that they are:

1. Commonly incorrect
2. Usually dont contain rhythm elements
3. Hard to sight-read (?)

Of course, tablature can be just as effective as sheet music, in some cultures this is how musicians write down their music, and in more cultures than there is traditionally no written down record of their works. Sure, maybe saying to quit tabs all together was too much.

The fact is, that tabs taken off the internet usually will commonly create bad habits, especially for point #2, where guitarists will commonly disregard the rhythms, which will can lead to a poor understanding of meter and the overall importance of timing in music.

[darthduba]

You might wanna learn the white stripes - seven nations army

[Mr-T]

I find listening by ear and trying to emulate exactly what you hear is the best way of teaching yourself to learn. You can't tab half the accents and effects you hear in most music now anyway; just find your way around the guitar.

[CWN]

At 12/4/08 09:09 AM, Mr-T wrote: I find listening by ear and trying to emulate exactly what you hear is the best way of teaching yourself to learn. You can't tab half the accents and effects you hear in most music now anyway; just find your way around the guitar.

Amen.

[Jeckellotus]

thank you for those that stayed on top and actually helped, especially the hot cross buns and seven nations army guy.

[Psil0]

I think the first song I learned to play was Violent Pornography by SOAD. And no, drop tunings are not noobish, players develop their own styles and sometimes that style also uses a different tuning. You can learn full chords (and yes it is useful), but not needed to make music. Some of the best modern music for guitar doesn't use full chords. Especially for most peoples' current influences (like Metallica, Slayer, Avenged Sevenfold, and a lot of others) use more power chords than anything. Its just knowing when to apply full tchords.

On sweeping, sweep picking is something that will come with time and depends on how often you practice. A lot of people these days can sweep, but most of the time it sounds like crap (even so called pros). You really got to practice it and listen to the people who are good at it. (John Petrucci, Yngwie Malmsteen, Paul Gilbert...etc.).

Guitar for about the first 2 two years is practicing, after that it becomes about developing your own style. Just practice the songs you like (at least try and I don't mean sit around for 10 minutes, get frustrated and quit, I mean 3 hours a day, guitar in hand and constantly going through the albums).

[Lost-Thought]

At 12/3/08 01:46 PM, CWN wrote:

At 12/3/08 12:07 PM, Ambimetric wrote:

At 12/3/08 11:53 AM, S3C wrote: Stop using tabs.

Why would that help?

Because playing with tabs doesn't train anything and most importantly: most tabs you find on the internet are WRONG.
Learning by ear is a lot funner and trains numerous qualities.

What about people like me who have been playing for a few 2 years and can't learn by ear? its not funner for me

[Kor-Rune]

At 12/9/08 05:13 PM, Lost-Thought wrote:

At 12/3/08 01:46 PM, CWN wrote:

At 12/3/08 12:07 PM, Ambimetric wrote:

At 12/3/08 11:53 AM, S3C wrote: Stop using tabs.

Why would that help?

Because playing with tabs doesn't train anything and most importantly: most tabs you find on the internet are WRONG.
Learning by ear is a lot funner and trains numerous qualities.

What about people like me who have been playing for a few 2 years and can't learn by ear? its not funner for me

I've been playing for about a year and a half and can determine the sort of scale, key and chord progressions and what not by ear. Before picking up a guitar, I was tone deaf. I think it just takes listening to a wide range of music and even trying to make your own for a little while. That's how I trained my ear, I think.

[HardcoreBrigade]

how about horse with no name

[S3C]

At 12/9/08 05:13 PM, Lost-Thought wrote:

At 12/3/08 01:46 PM, CWN wrote:

At 12/3/08 12:07 PM, Ambimetric wrote:

At 12/3/08 11:53 AM, S3C wrote: Stop using tabs.

Why would that help?

Because playing with tabs doesn't train anything and most importantly: most tabs you find on the internet are WRONG.
Learning by ear is a lot funner and trains numerous qualities.

What about people like me who have been playing for a few 2 years and can't learn by ear? its not funner for me

To add on to what Kor-rune said, I've been in the same situation as you. I played for 2 years and couldnt learn anything by ear worth shit. In senior year of high school I took music theory class and the ear notation excercises where hard times for me...From there, I've been listening and making music moreso from an anaylitical standpoint, and just now after four years of musical experience I can hear something by ear and play it back, although I still suck at it.

Learn what intervals, scales, and chords sound like through various tools you can find online, try playing simple tunes like Mary had a little lamb and from there you will gradually be able to hear and play more complex works. For some its just a skill that takes time.

[Sialys]

During the nine or so years I've been playing, I've come across numerous techniques and hundreds of opinions from elitist fucks who think learning everything by ear is the way to go.

Yes, I encourage learning by ear. But shit, you can't expect someone who's been playing for a day to just start learning by ear. That takes time and practice, hell, he can't even navigate a fret board properly yet.

I recommend getting lessons if you can afford them, staying away from alternate tunings until you're familiar with the standard EADGBE, and please use tabs. So what if they're wrong? That just gives you the opportunity to switch it up and make it your own!

I have never, ever learned a full song by anyone. And I don't ever plan to, I think it's a waste of time. Learn bits and pieces of tons of songs in multiple genres to figure out the different styles but make sure you try to make 'em your own before moving on.

For example, recently I learned the intro and chorus to The Unforgiven by Metallica, and before that I learned the intro to Anthem (We are the Fire) by Trivium. I combined the chorus of the Unforgiven and the speed and style of Trivium together and made it my own. Now no one can even recognize the song, and it sounds great!

Anyway, all I'm saying is. Don't make the guitar a job, make it a hobby. If you only wanna play for a half hour, play for a half hour. Don't feel forced to get in as much practice as possible.

I can't stress this enough, just have fun

Sorry if some parts weren't clear, I'm very tired. But I'd be more than happy to explain what I mean if you or anyone has any questions for me!