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What's with this idiocy I see these days where people think their anger makes them stronger? I don't know HOW many times I hear some total IDIOT babbling about how angry they get in fights, and how strong it makes them.

Look, let's get down to business. I've beat a LOT of asses, and in every case, THEY were angry, and I WASN'T. Look at the world's best fighters on Pride, UFC, boxing... who are the best? The guys who NEVER lose their cool, the guys who cerebrally destroy their oponents before they ever take the first swing. In fact, the greats look downright SLEEPY in the ring; the idea is that the less you look like you're dangerous, the more dangerous you become, kind of like a landmine.

I mean, where are you guys getting this from, that being angry makes you look anything other than like some little kid throwing a temper tantrum? A grown ass man should NEVER raise his voice. He shouldn't have to. A grown ass man knows that actions speak louder than words, and the less you talk about what you're going to do, the more likely you are to be successful.

Look, Dragon Ball Z was a fucking cartoon. You can't just sit there getting all angry to "build up your power level." It's a bunch of fucking bullshit. The cooler you keep your head in a fight, the more likely you are to defend yourself and see opportunities in your opponent's defenses. If you get all pissed off and start throwing a bunch of sloppy haymakers, you're just BEGGING for someone to keep their head, be slick, dodge your punch, use your own momentum to slam you on the ground, climb up on your back, and ride you like a fucking pony.

So WHATEVER you do, if someone's trying to piss you off or get a rise out of you, DON'T LET THEM. Keep your head, make them think you're not a threat, wait until they least expect it, and fuck their shit up. Then act like it NEVER HAPPENED. Payback's a motherfucker, after all, and the last thing you want to do is humiliate someone into doing something drastic just because you proved you could beat their ass in a fair fight. That's how you get your dumb ass stabbed in the neck with a pencil.

Remember, the fight's not over until your opponent gives up. You can knock a guy unconcious, but if he wakes up and still wants to fight, you've got a serious problem, because he's not going to bother fighting fair, and you MIGHT just find yourself getting beaten down from behind with a baseball bat. Being all pissy like a little bitch and throwing a little girl yelling match makes you a target, because it makes your opponent think that you're not reasonable, and that they have to run you off in order to live in peace. A fast, dirty, random, emotionless beat down makes it look like you're more than a little crazy, but if left alone, but you can keep a handle on it and nobody has to get hurt.

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What? WHAT?!?!?! TYPING IN CAPS TO APPEAR ANGRY!! *LOTS OF SWEARING!!!*

I fail at anger.

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I think if Rocky 3 taught us nothing else, it taught us this.

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At 12/2/08 11:29 AM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: I think if Rocky 3 taught us nothing else, it taught us this.

That communism is fundamentally flawed but those crazy soviets can be alright?

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At 12/2/08 11:30 AM, DingoTheDog wrote: That communism is fundamentally flawed but those crazy soviets can be alright?

That was Rocky 4 silly. Rocky 3 taught us that fighting when emotional causes you to make mistakes, whereas if you put your head down and fight properly, you can beat Clubber Lang.

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At 12/2/08 11:27 AM, HungarianSupermarket wrote: What? WHAT?!?!?! TYPING IN CAPS TO APPEAR ANGRY!! *LOTS OF SWEARING!!!*

I fail at anger.

Everyone FAILs at anger, because anger FAILs.

You need to go for cold, calculating hatred. You can hate and still be smart, but anger makes you dumb.

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At 12/2/08 11:32 AM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote:
That was Rocky 4 silly. Rocky 3 taught us that fighting when emotional causes you to make mistakes, whereas if you put your head down and fight properly, you can beat Clubber Lang.

My god, my Diploma on Rockyology is void after that fuckup.

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At 12/2/08 11:33 AM, FUNKbrs wrote: but anger makes you dumb.

that's explains a lot about you.

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One definition I've heard: anger actually stems from helplessness - it's a way to feel powerful when one actually feels very out-of-control and powerless under the surface. Fear and sadness are also often a big part of anger.

Another way to think of it - anger is a way to make yourself big and scary when there's a dispute over limited resources. Not usually a great solution for living in civilization, but it works very well in nature, and the fact that it remains with us speaks for its evolutionary usefulness.

Something else I've heard about anger - when we are infants, screaming and crying are the main tools we have to get our needs heard and met. When things go poorly and our brains shut down, that's what we revert to.

Adrenaline is a big part of an anger reaction - the "fight or flight" reaction is a very difficult one to reason ourselves out of once it hits. In addition to giving us quick reactions and additional strength, adrenaline gives us "tunnel vision" - we are only able to think about, or even see, one or maybe two variables at a moment (as opposed to when our conscious minds function normally, and we can juggle 5-7 variables in a situation).

angry people are pathetic.

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The Dragon Ball Z reference sealed the deal as the perfect example of what you're trying to teach these guys. I couldn't agree with your argument more if I wanted to...

Calm, cool demeanor coupled with explosive dominance is an effective combination, no exceptions.
The only people that back down just because someone is angry and yelling were never a real threat to anybody anyway.

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At 12/2/08 11:25 AM, FUNKbrs wrote: What's with this idiocy I see these days where people think their anger makes them stronger?

That'll be adrenaline.
Everyone gets angry buddy, you just have to talk to them after the moment passes when they realise that they were acting ridiculous.


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At 12/2/08 11:33 AM, FUNKbrs wrote:
You need to go for cold, calculating hatred. You can hate and still be smart, but anger makes you dumb.

Rage can be intimidating, and intimidation can make all the difference.

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At 12/2/08 11:38 AM, metalninjaman wrote:
At 12/2/08 11:33 AM, FUNKbrs wrote: but anger makes you dumb.
that's explains a lot about you.

I have yet to see funk show anger towards something. Hatred, yes, but not anger.

Back it up with some quality linkage that he has shown anger and I'll be a rebel and diss mods along with you.

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anger makes you old.

I had one of my good friends storm into my apartment at 8 am. beating on my door yelling and cussing to give him back his 20 dollar pocket knife. Then when i opened the door he swung at me and started throwing his arms all over the place like a damned idiot. He managed to get one hit off, but thats how i learned he hits like a pussy. Good thing im docile or i would have painted my carpet with his blood. LOL

but yeah,, anger is bad. esspecially people who get pissed off at everything.

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Heh you timed this just right because I had a fight today. He was really angry and I kept laughing at him every time he threw a punch which made him angrier. He had to be sent home to calm down.

The fight got spilt up before anything bad happened so it was a draw in case your wondering who won.


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This makes me pleasantly upset at the world.

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I'm mad right now but my country is also in the process of becoming a dictatorship, so you'll have to give me a few days.


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Anger can be a good ally, but it can also be your worst enemy.

It's as simple as that.


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Yyyyyyyeaaah...

You know what else makes you a good fighter? Training.
And a gun.

But I sure do hate people who get angry and yell. I think it's pathetic to get angry at other humans.


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I don't really get angry anymore. I know from experience that the few times I've done shit in a rage, nothing ended well, and nothing was made better.

As ironic as it is, nothing gets a rise out of my more than somebody saying "Why are you so angry?" when I'm not. I don't know what the fuck it is, but it's hard to keep calm in situations like that.


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You have the why, but not the how. HOW do I keep cool? Anger isn't some faucet that can be turned on and off with the twist of the wrist.

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At 12/2/08 12:00 PM, poxpower wrote: Yyyyyyyeaaah...

You know what else makes you a good fighter? Training.
And a gun.

I was gonna say...you can be calm all you want, but if the other guy is angry and has a gun you're still probably on the disadvantage. What better way to be prepared for the situation than carrying your own and waving it around as often as possible to show others how much they should fear you? It'll also let others know you have a big dick. Become what you hate! It's the new black.

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FUNK giving actually helpful advice? No way man.
On a serious note, I agree. Pissing people off isn't such a good idea, but once they're angry, they make mistakes. They also become relatively easy to see through.
Of course, you shouldn't piss people off in the first place.

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.

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At 12/2/08 11:49 AM, CanadianSnowman wrote: I'm mad right now but my country is also in the process of becoming a dictatorship, so you'll have to give me a few days.

What, you mean low-fat America light with 0 trans-fats is becoming a dictatorship?

Praise the lord and Hallelujah! Quick, lets all get on the roof to get a good view of the coronation procession!

BTW, who will the entire continent be calling fuhrer in the coming years?

HATE.
Because 2,000 years of "For God so loved the world" doesn't trump 1.2 million years of "Survival of the Fittest."


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Very informative topic, and I totally agree.

That's the reason behind taunting - provoking your opponent. Anger makes you act without thinking things through. Straightforward, easy to block, easy to counter.

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You've beat a lot of asses, you say?

So either you are an internet stuff guy or one hell of a gay pornstar.

I suppose they same could be applied to any pornstar or any sexual orientation, but gay pornstar felt right.


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At 12/2/08 12:07 PM, gradenator wrote: You have the why, but not the how. HOW do I keep cool? Anger isn't some faucet that can be turned on and off with the twist of the wrist.

It's possibly one of the most difficult to acquire and most useful skills you can ever practice; self discipline.

It can only be obtained through practice. You don't necessarily have to be in a situation that makes you angry and then forced yourself to act calm, although that's the best kind of practice, but just in general allowing the logical part of your brain to override the emotional side.

Emotions are generated in vestigial parts of the brain, like the tailbone is to the skeleton, or the appendix is to the digestive tract. Emotions make you animal; a dog feels anger in much the same way a human does.

When ever you start to get angry, ask yourself: "Am I a man, or am I a little bitch dog, that lets my anger control me?" Breathe deeply, in through the nose, out through the mouth. This will help slow your heart rate, increasing your calm.

Look at the effect of the anger inside your objectively. Take time to notice your heart rate and breathing increase. Question why, try to reason out the purpose of it. You can't conquer your objective if you first can't conquer yourself, so don't worry that you're not snapping back with witty, cutting remarks. Your silence will be MUCH more intimidating, because it makes you look comfortable and in control; it makes you look like an unassailable wall who cannot be forced to react, cannot be manipulated, and can only be worked AROUND.

Whoever or whatever you're angry at has lost some of it's power over you when you no longer allow it to manipulate your thinking. You stop being a reactor, who can be manipulated, and start being an original actor, who DOES the manipulating.

First and foremost, always remember that it's your ability to keep your head IN SPITE of being attacked that will assure your victory. If you fail to achieve your goal, ensure that it wasn't because of lack of self-control or because of stupidity, but because your best simply wasn't enough. That way if you DO fail, you can still be proud of the effort you put forth, instead of worrying about whether or not your lack of self control caused you to not live up to your potential.

Another side of being a real man is being able to take your ass whooping like a man. When you get hit in the face, spit on, insulted, or just otherwise attacked, you have to accept that as part of life. It happens to everyone, eventually, and this is just your time. You can't expect to go through life without getting hurt; in some ways, it's the willingness to get hurt, the willingness to take chances and sometimes fail through no fault of your own that's actually your advantage when you're in a confrontational situation where you're becoming angry. Your reaction needs to be timed to maximize it's effectiveness; you can't allow your opponent to taunt you into doing something stupid. You have to fight YOUR fight, you have to use the strategy that you know how to win with. When you fight on terms that aren't your own, you're automatically at a disadvantage. Pick your battles, and know that fighting when you have no chance of winning is the move of a bitch, and that taking your lumps and waiting for your opportunity is the move of a man.

I hope that answers your question, because that's a pretty important question to have the answer to.

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At 12/2/08 12:21 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: Praise the lord and Hallelujah! Quick, lets all get on the roof to get a good view of the coronation procession!

Much nerd rage in the direction of your anus.


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At 12/2/08 12:31 PM, SirLebowski wrote: You've beat a lot of asses, you say?

So either you are an internet stuff guy or one hell of a gay pornstar.

I suppose they same could be applied to any pornstar or any sexual orientation, but gay pornstar felt right.

Gay pornstar.

But no, seriously, I grew up in a really rough neighborhood where if you couldn't fight, you were a victim. I went to highschool with Quentin Jackson from the Pride fighting circuit. After that, I'm also a realy talented metal drummer (check my audio portal submissions... VOTE 5!) and that put me in a lot of bars, which got me in bar fights... you get the picture. In those situations, you end up fighting lots of angry drunks, and you learn to adapt a style that plays off that anger and makes it a weakness, while at the same time avoiding criminal charges for assault.

HATE.
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