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Posted at: 12/1/08 05:23 PM

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Since the new Sonic game wasnt much of a "Come back". I thought of this.

Sonic the outcast?

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At 12/1/08 05:23 PM, Gaaz wrote: Since the new Sonic game wasnt much of a "Come back". I thought of this.

This is what I thought of your picture.

Sonic the outcast?

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Posted at: 12/1/08 05:28 PM

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Man, Gazz, you're just evil. Comparing any game to Crash and Spyro is like denying the Holocaust...

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At 12/1/08 05:26 PM, ShadowWest wrote:
At 12/1/08 05:23 PM, Gaaz wrote: Since the new Sonic game wasnt much of a "Come back". I thought of this.
This is what I thought of your picture.

But I do actually agree with what Mario is saying

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At 12/1/08 05:23 PM, Gaaz wrote: Since the new Sonic game wasnt much of a "Come back". I thought of this.

Epic Win.


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It sucks but it's true. Though Banjo shouldn't with Mario and Mega Man at all. Banjo's new game completely stripped the pair of what made them awesome in the first place, their duo attacks and abililities. They failed worse than Sonic!

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YOU SUCK! SONIC RULES! YOU WILL BURN FOR YOUR SINS!!!

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At 12/1/08 06:20 PM, Talio17 wrote: YOU SUCK! SONIC RULES! YOU WILL BURN FOR YOUR SINS!!!

Lol stupid fanboy, I can only hope your being sarcastic.


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At 12/1/08 06:21 PM, Skygee wrote:
At 12/1/08 06:20 PM, Talio17 wrote: YOU SUCK! SONIC RULES! YOU WILL BURN FOR YOUR SINS!!!
Lol stupid fanboy, I can only hope your being sarcastic.

Sonic does rule. It just that his awesomeness can't compare with Mario's.

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Denying that Sonic now sucks, and the series is dead is like denying the holocaust.

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At 12/1/08 05:23 PM, Gaaz wrote: Since the new Sonic game wasnt much of a "Come back". I thought of this.

as if you did that. i'm very tempted to post a facepalm but since i don't want to get banned i wouldn't.

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Posted at: 12/2/08 12:49 PM

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Sonic was killed by it's own fanboy-ism....

The game worked lovley in a 2D environment beceause that's what it was designed for. Sega wanted to show off the speed of their new system so they designed a 2d platforming game that was all about speed.

But once the 3D worlds took over there really wasn't much room for Sonic. Speed was no longer an issue for consoles and everybody started focusing on graphics. Sonic was never a graphic heavy game... the characters where kind of bland and cartoony, and the Sonic world was empty and full of grassy plains and empty streets. It's really hard to turn that into something that can visually compete with games that are designed to show off more on a graphical aspect (IE: Gears of War). No matter how good a Sonic game looks, it'll always look like cartoony garbage. That's not to say that the graphics are bad, but they'll just never have that "Next-Gen Console Shine" to them that we all want.

Speed was the only real aspect of the game. But you can't do speed in 3D... In a 3D environment there is no "perfect camera position" and there's always going to be that offscreen object that haults you dead in your tracks. Areas where Sonic hits a spring have become little more then in-game cutscenes and areas where you're left to run on your own are left empty and boring to avoid the sudden stops. Sonic could only really work in a 3D environment if it took on the same form as Space Harrior or the 3D Battles of World Runner. But lets be realistic... that's been done and just wouldn't make for that great of a Next-Gen game.

To make up for it, Sonic has had to add in new characters, features, or gameplay mechanics. But none of them work simply because nobody wants to play a Sonic game where you control some previously unknown character that moves boxes around with his mind.

The developers of Sonic have gotten so desperate they've done everything imaginable to the title in order to keep it alive, yet none of it ever works. Sonic now has 17 friends, a new enemy, diffrent worlds to travel in, human to interact with, fighting powers, sword weilding abilities, and the ability to transform into a wolf. Yet, at the end of the day, it fails. Because the only people that want Sonic to survive (even if it means changing everything about it that made him great to begin with) are the annoying fanboys. The rest of us would rather he dissapear and go down in history as 'good memories'. Unfortinutly though, fanbodys just wont let that happen... and they should.

I was there when Sonic was new... don't ruin my generations memories of a classic game because your generation was too busy putting on it's eye-liner to come up with anything of it's own.

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At 12/1/08 06:12 PM, Dragoonwing wrote: Though Banjo shouldn't with Mario and Mega Man at all. Banjo's new game completely stripped the pair of what made them awesome in the first place, their duo attacks and abililities.

That's why Kazooie is out of the picture...

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Dude, the only bad Sonic games we had were Heroes, Shadow and Sonic 06. And we did have Sonic Advance 2. Also, Sonic Unleashed is also about platforming, not only speed. Sonic never was about speed. It was about speed and platforming. And at least SatBK has speed and platforming, so stop whining.


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At 12/2/08 02:57 PM, SilverTheHedgehog wrote: Sonic never was about speed.

The holocaust never was about killing Jews.

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At 12/2/08 05:46 PM, Yacazuma wrote:
At 12/2/08 02:57 PM, SilverTheHedgehog wrote: Sonic never was about speed.
The holocaust never was about killing Jews.

The Sonic games weren't about speed. If they were about speed than you would have gone just as fast as in Unleashed as in the 2D games.

It was marketed as "faster, more intense than Mario with a cute character" and the thing stuck. Speed is a trademark of Sonic, but there were very few times you were freely running fast.


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At 12/2/08 02:02 PM, Jaresk wrote:
At 12/1/08 06:12 PM, Dragoonwing wrote: Though Banjo shouldn't with Mario and Mega Man at all. Banjo's new game completely stripped the pair of what made them awesome in the first place, their duo attacks and abililities.
That's why Kazooie is out of the picture...

Banjo doesn't deserve to be there either both of them lost their credit at good game characters.

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I pose the question, has there actually been a good 3D sonic game?

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Posted at: 12/2/08 07:23 PM

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leave sonic alone. he's going through a rough patch of his life were every game he is in excluding brawl i a sub par failure

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At 12/2/08 07:23 PM, seahawk95 wrote: leave sonic alone. he's going through a rough patch of his life were every game he is in excluding brawl i a sub par failure

LEAVE SONIC ALONE!

PLEASE!

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Man you dont know sonic much. you're just bei'n dumb

Sonic the outcast?

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At 12/1/08 05:23 PM, Gaaz wrote: Since the new Sonic game wasnt much of a "Come back". I thought of this.

So true, also very nice picture!

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At 12/1/08 06:20 PM, Talio17 wrote: YOU SUCK! SONIC RULES! YOU WILL BURN FOR YOUR SINS!!!

TALIO IS RIGHT, MAN! YOU DO SUCK. SONIC RULES!!!!!!!!!!! AND ALL THOSE WHO DENY IT SHALL BURN TOO!!!!!!

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At 12/1/08 05:26 PM, ShadowWest wrote:
At 12/1/08 05:23 PM, Gaaz wrote: Since the new Sonic game wasnt much of a "Come back". I thought of this.
This is what I thought of your picture.

Most video game cartoons are lame.

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SONIC RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Okay for all of you capping your words yelling,"Leave Sonic alone!" Please shut up. I'm a Sonic fan too but I'm not afraid to admit that his recent adventures SUCK, except for Secret Rings. I don't know about Unleashed yet because I have yet to play the game. Secret Rings is a good game and I have high hopes for Black Knight. The Rush series wasn't bad but it didn't feel like a Sonic game. Right now Sonic's future looks grim and if Sonic Team can't do a thing to help him, then I won't be suprised if the plug gets pulled...

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At 12/2/08 07:41 PM, njsmaster wrote: SONIC RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At 12/2/08 07:33 PM, njsmaster wrote: TALIO IS RIGHT, MAN! YOU DO SUCK. SONIC RULES!!!!!!!!!!! AND ALL THOSE WHO DENY IT SHALL BURN TOO!!!!!!

Fuck off and go kill yourself.

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At 12/1/08 05:23 PM, Gaaz wrote: Since the new Sonic game wasnt much of a "Come back". I thought of this.

LOL! Nice! But I didnt know Megaman was doing good, unless you count Megaman 9? : /

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Sonic is not much of an outcast. The developers hell of did not get desperate. They are apparently trying to continue the series without combining too much other universes. Sonic is still thriving in many ways. Even though i agree gears of war and other major graphical games did kick Sonics ASS. Though, Mario is starting to fail and Spyro and crash have deeply failed since their retarded hit on the Playstation One. I've played it. and i still can. I still am poking fun at you COUGH DIEHARD COUGH sonic fans who masturbate on him. Its only a matter of time since Sonic will fail and fanboys are writing to sega a letter a freakin second WHERES SONIC WHERES SONIC?!?!?!? and sega is going to send back letters saying Thank you for your useless letter. Sonic fans. Stop. I feel sorry for you. Hes gonna fail. Yes. He will. No he will. But i have to admit i was once a sonic fan. but now idk what i am now. but now i enjoy many games and even sonic games. but i am not a diehard for much stuff now. Enjoy the :p face on the top

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Posted at: 12/6/08 12:06 PM

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Well... with all the insults this thread has recieved, I believe I've made my point. The only bad point of the Sonic games are the level setup, not the controls or storyline. The levels are only bad because they deal with speed, only when you learn to master the concept of speed gaming does Sonic show his true Awesomeness.

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