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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK0GmiSMN GI

Cascada-Everytime We Touch

This is the kind of music I listen too but I do not know the genre of it. I only know how o say the genre in Romanian not English so I won't be able to search it on youtube or google.


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Pop.

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At 11/30/08 01:01 PM, Nav wrote: Pop.

Haha xD

I'm sure many TV Broadcasters in my Country would agree, since RnB now gets played on MTV Dance.

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Pop/Dance/Trance

I mean, c'mon. That's not hard. How about figuring this one out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbk6kExKf 2Q


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Dance music. Pretty much everything Cascada do is Dance. (apart from their Piano/Vocals duets) They're notorious for it.

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At 11/30/08 02:07 PM, LucreOnBeats wrote: Pop/Dance/Trance

I mean, c'mon. That's not hard. How about figuring this one out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbk6kExKf 2Q

That's just pure awesome.


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At 11/30/08 02:07 PM, LucreOnBeats wrote: I mean, c'mon. That's not hard. How about figuring this one out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbk6kExKf 2Q

House. The ONLY genre for porn music.

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Cascada is pretty effin obviously eurodance

FFS my artist name is chim


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Cascada borderlines trance and house.

That tralala and ding ding dong song is house.

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At 11/30/08 05:42 PM, DjDTM wrote: Cascada borderlines trance and house.

No it's not. It doesn't contain any house elements whatsoever. The trance elements it once contained were removed by having a pop-like structure. It's really neither.

It was made to get people to buy it. Therefore it's pop.

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At 11/30/08 05:52 PM, Nav wrote: It was made to get people to buy it. Therefore it's pop.

By the same definition, you could say Motörhead, Sisters of Mercy, Beethoven, Nightwish, and Marylin Manson are pop.

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By popular definition, it is dance music.
I refuse to use pop as a genre, because a death metal song could one day be just as popular as a hip hop track. It doesn't work.

The only thing I've really heard Cascada classed as is dance and europop.


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At 11/30/08 06:35 PM, Ambimetric wrote: By popular definition, it is dance music.
I refuse to use pop as a genre, because a death metal song could one day be just as popular as a hip hop track. It doesn't work.

The only thing I've really heard Cascada classed as is dance and europop.

Pop is very much a genre, no matter how much you refuse. Pop is in a simplified from, the over-produced product of mixing dance, RnB, and more often nowadays, piano bar music (Winehouse, Adele, Aguilera, etc.). It hasn't changed much over the years, it's just been produced at higher qualities than before. However, because of it's distinct sound, you can recognize it immedeately. Not all popular music becomes "pop." On the flip side of things, not all "pop" is popular music. That definition of Pop music just being Pop because it's "popular" is a major fallacy that a lot of unexperienced people buy into simply because they can't identify the recurring themes in the Pop genre. Listen to Madona, Michael Jackson, Britney Spears, N*Sync, and Beyonce and you'll recognize all of the aforementioned elements.

However, because of this new wave of completely horrible rock and rap, there have become sub-genres, as with any major genre on music. Thus, Pop-Rock and Pop-Rap are thrust into the lexicon of music lingo and with it, many music analysists misconstruing the definitions of these genres and sub-genres.

In short, Pop is a legitimate genre and if you refuse to recognize that, it's simply stubborness on your part.


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At 12/1/08 10:06 AM, LucreOnBeats wrote: In short, Pop is a legitimate genre and if you refuse to recognize that, it's simply stubborness on your part.

I agree with some of what you said.
Sounds like you were being a bit harsh on me, though ;)
I just feel that if someone was like "I heard this wicked new pop song" I'm not going to have a clue what it's going to sound like, unless I hear it.


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It's progressive. In Europe that kind of music is called just like that, progressive. Good examples of progressive are songs like

Ian Van Dahl - Castles In The Sky

Kate Ryan - Desenchatee

Anneke Van Hoof - Lie To Me

Candee Jay - If I Were You

Baracuda - Ladida

Basshunter - Boten Ana

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But you just CAN'T call Cascada pop. Madonna is pop. Cascada IS NOT

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At 12/1/08 11:14 AM, Airprogressive wrote: It's progressive. In Europe that kind of music is called just like that, progressive. Good examples of progressive are songs like

Ian Van Dahl - Castles In The Sky

Kate Ryan - Desenchatee

Anneke Van Hoof - Lie To Me

Candee Jay - If I Were You

Baracuda - Ladida

Basshunter - Boten Ana

etc.

No you cannot call it progressive, progressive is a term used to describe other genres, ie. progressive trance, progressive house. and is used to describe offshoot genres that are innovative and bring new elements in or to describe songs that slowly build and fall in energy over time seamlessly. None of these charachteristics go with these songs.

IMO they are Pop/Eurodance.

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If you want to call them Eurodance, I can understand that, but pop? C'mon, pop si not like that.

Pet Shop Boys, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Justin Timberlake, N'Sync, Britney Spears, Jesse McCartney, etc. That's pop music.
Cascada pop? Basshunter pop? Candee jay pop?Sorry, but not. You can't say that Jesse McCartney's Beautiful Soul is in the same music style that Candee Jay's If I Were You

Probably to call a song just progressive is not ''scientifically'' correct, but it's very usual to hear that in radio programs, tv adverts, or cd compilations. I can assure you that in Spain, if you ask about progressive music, people would say to you, wat I'm saying now

Distinguishing between electronic music styles is always a very polemic topic

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At 12/1/08 12:28 PM, Airprogressive wrote: Stuff

Progressive isn't a genre, and it's not something used to describe electronic music specifically, it's used to describe the style of a piece of music alongside the genre, just like "fast", "hard", "slow", or "soft".

As a side note, it's usually simply referred to as "prog"

IE Prog-goth, prog-rock, prog-punk, etc.

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At 12/1/08 12:28 PM, Airprogressive wrote: If you want to call them Eurodance, I can understand that, but pop? C'mon, pop si not like that.

Pet Shop Boys, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Justin Timberlake, N'Sync, Britney Spears, Jesse McCartney, etc. That's pop music.
Cascada pop? Basshunter pop? Candee jay pop?Sorry, but not. You can't say that Jesse McCartney's Beautiful Soul is in the same music style that Candee Jay's If I Were You

And that's why I say Pop/Eurodance, just like a watered down rock song would be called Pop-Rock, watered down dance and trance I would call Pop/Eurodance, as in being a hybrid of the two, but not completely them both. Also, you cannot fit Ian Van Dahls - Castle's in the sky in the same genre as Cascada and Basshunter, they sound nothing alike.

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At 12/1/08 10:15 AM, Ambimetric wrote:
At 12/1/08 10:06 AM, LucreOnBeats wrote: In short, Pop is a legitimate genre and if you refuse to recognize that, it's simply stubborness on your part.
I agree with some of what you said.
Sounds like you were being a bit harsh on me, though ;)
I just feel that if someone was like "I heard this wicked new pop song" I'm not going to have a clue what it's going to sound like, unless I hear it.

Okay okay, I was being a bit harsh. Sounded like you would refute pop no matter what though. Back on topic though....

Progressive? Prog? C'mon guys, you're just fishing for sub-labels and sub-genre markers. It's got elements of Dance, Pop, and Trance. You don't have to stick it under one label. You could call it Progressive Euro-Dance-Pop. The reason we have all of these labels and genres is because not everything fits under one label. That's why you have music sections in stores labeled Misc., World, Etc., or something in that vein. Let's be open-minded here.


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I think that we are not going to come to any agreement about this.

sub-labels and sub-genre markers??? Oh, LucreOnBeats c'mon!

You can't name a song Progressive Euro-Dance-Pop. Why don't you continue? Rock-Indie-Funk-Jass-Classical-Electro-T rance. All together XD

Electronic music can englobe all if you want to name a style without naming it at all.

I also have some questions too.

How would you name this track?

Âme - Rej (Original Mix) ¿house, techno, club?

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At 12/1/08 04:15 PM, Airprogressive wrote: Âme - Rej (Original Mix) ¿house, techno, club?

Minimal Techno, I beleive so.

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At 12/1/08 04:59 PM, xKore wrote:
At 12/1/08 04:15 PM, Airprogressive wrote: Âme - Rej (Original Mix) ¿house, techno, club?
Minimal Techno, I beleive so.

Hip hop

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Swedish Trance?

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swedish trance! XD

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Isn't it great how we're all fighting over subgenres?
Lets all shut the fuck up, the OP can wack "dance" into google and find artists he likes. That's all he wanted.
Or, he could go to myspace and look through artists top friends until he finds shit he likes.

Now everyone go play in traffic.


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I called it pop because pop is a word similar to progressive. While progressive in most cases refers to innovative tracks in the genre, pop refers to the most popular tracks of that genre. The artists you named were 80s and 90s pop. Now, in the big 00s, pop music, as it always does, is picking up elements from the underground, namely Trance.

It's happened before, and it will happen again. Guess what was big in the 90s? Hiphop. Hiphop was pop music in the 90s. Guess where it came from? Small, underground artists in the 80s experimenting with drum machines. It wasn't pop music then, but it is now.

Guess where Cascada came from? Underground dance music in the 90s! It wasn't pop then, but it is now.

However, non-pop styles still exist. You rarely hear turntablism in pop-hiphop, and you rarely hear extended tracks, DJ trickery, and mixing in pop-dance. In other words, when a genre becomes popular, it loses the original aspects of the genre, and contorts it to cater to the tastes of the general public.

That's EXACTLY what artists like Cascada and Basshunter are doing! Even Daft Punk, to an extent. I have friends who say they hear kids talking about Basshunter, and I live in AMERICA, the PURVEYOR of pop music!

You can't deny it. Cascada has lost what originally made electronic music unique, IE experimentation with sounds, and friendlyness to DJs. They've turned it into 3 minute radio edits which simply copy their own and other peoples' tracks. It is truly a charade of what electronic music used to be.

Enjoy your radio edits. I'll be listening to "old skool" hardcore, hard house, and progressive trance, from back when set genre limits didn't exist.

Remember: Disco was pop music in the 70s. It fell. As did synthpop after the 80s. Hiphop from the 90s didn't fall, so much as it became even more convoluted and terrible. Electronic-pop is destined to do the same.

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IT BE ELECTRIC POP


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Crappy dance-pop.

I punched the last person who asked me to sing anything by Cascada. :3

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