At 11/9/01 01:31 PM, WadeFulp wrote:
Maher is free to say whatever he wants, but he can't expect to keep his TV show if he mouths off things that piss off all his sponsers.
But see he was taken out of context, those people who got pissed heard one thing but that's not what he was saying at all. Not once has he ever spoken bad about America, people are overly sensitive on this issue and I understand that but he didn't say anything to get them pissed off, it was just a misunderstanding that has been taken way too far.
People like you who think we deserved this attack, or the terrorist had some kind of reason to be mad at us, are in the minority right now. You people love any kind of conspiracy that makes our government look bad.
Don't do this "you people" shit, it's thinking like that, that has put us here in the first place. Instead of thinking in terms of "us" and "them" we should thinking about "we". I know this sounds hippie-ish and I don't want it to come across like that, but that's really what it's all about. I never said we deserved what happened, I clearly stated that in my previous point, but unlike many Americans, I would actually like to see both sides of what is happening, rather than buying into the propaganda being spewed constantly on the news. I am not one of those people who will jump at a chance to believe "the man" is trying to stick it to us, but I also do not trust the news and would like an unbiased account of what is going on so I can have an educated opinion on the matter.
Unless you were living over there with Osama and have first hand experience with what we did to make those people so pissed off, I don't wanna hear it. There is so much miss information floating around you don't know what to believe. Like all these people saying how in Iraq all these kids are starving to death and it's OUR fault because of the sanctions we put on Iraq. That is total and utter BS. We went into IRAQ and interviewed people and they are prospering and doing very well. The people who are starving are the people Saddam is purposely starving! They have the money and means to feed those people, but THEY choose not to. So that isn't OUR fault. As far as Osama, I've heard he's mad at us because we have troops on "his" soil. We are upsetting him religiously. Well guess what, most of the people over there ARE NOT mad at us. It's only these small groups of people who are nut caes! It's not like the who middle east hates us! Most of them support us! You are foolish if you think we should bend over and let these people ram us up the ass because they are unhappy with us! It's only a SMALL group of people! They are CRAZY! They are all brainwashed by a few key people. Osama himself maybe brainwashed by his 2nd in command.
You are, right. We don't know what's going on. And that's just the problem right there. The news can make it sound like they are the evil empire who are jealous of us because of our american ideals and that's complete bullshit. It is a small group of people but they are powerful because they have control over a lot of people, I am not saying we shouldn't fight back but that's not what we are doing. You gave an analogy in a previous post similar to if someone punches you in the face, you fight back. But we are not fighting back the asshole who punched us, we're merely kicking their dog and taking it out the poor animal. If this was as simple as fighting against a whole country because a whole country was responsible for the attacks, then war would make sense, but we are fighting a group of scattered people and the problem with that is in our attempt to attack this scattered group, a bunch of innocent lives are lost, perhaps even more innocent people are dying than are guilty. The people over there see us harming them and then they begin to hate us when previously they didn't. That is how we are making things worse. If all the terrorists were bunched together in one location and we bombed that location then that would be great, but we are merely attacking in their general direction, thus doing more harm than good, it's not helping anything.
The governemnt isn't going after Maher, it is his sponsers that don't agree with him, and they have a right not to agree with him. So Maher didn't do anything wrong, or illegal. He has the freedom to say what he wants, but at the same time he offended his sponsers, and they choose not to support him anymore, and that's to bad for Maher. Maybe he can find some other sponsers to support him, and another network.
Perhaps, but again, he didn't say anything that would have been offensive, his words were misinterpreted and those sponsers who stopped supporting him based it on what they thought he said rather than what he actually said and that's really unfortunate. But of course they have every right to do so, it's their millions, but it's still stupid.