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At 10/26/06 02:48 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:

Would this make me a horrible person? Or would I be justified?

It would be fairly harsh. And don't go out wit her just to dump her.
You'll lose dignity for bein such a wanker. Just forgive her. (if she is sorry)

If you love her still, go for it.
You won't lose any dignity or anything.

But never even consider shootin someone just for gettin his willy wet you fuckin nutter!!!

At 10/23/06 11:13 PM, TheMason wrote:

Comparing the UK to Rome is like comparing a Jaguar to a Ferrari: both are sports cars, the former just isn't as good as the latter...(and yes, America would be a Lambourghini)

America would be a fucking Ford Pick up with a massive Engine which drinks to much fuckin petrol and is still Gutless as shit.

Americas not even an empire, it's a modern day super power.
Who has it invaded and conquered?

Rome was a small city that conquered the world as they knew it.

America Is a Huge Country Rich in Resources and good land that was colonised by the leading power of the time. Had a reveloution and for a couple of hundred of years grew an grew with out much interference.

America isn't anything like Rome, neither is the British EMpire or any other Empire.

And all Empires are Bad anyway. So i don't know why you like to see america as one

At 10/21/06 07:14 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:

So maybe people like bad news because its entertaining? It turns people on I suppose.

Only fuckin sick cunts like you maybe

It won't start ww3 There may be a war involving the UN an Korea I dunno. Not likely.

I reckon the next world war will be fought mostly by Super Powers.

USA
European Union
India

v

China

At 10/21/06 06:57 PM, TheMason wrote:

At 10/21/06 02:23 PM, zzzzd wrote:
I disagree with people who have called america Imperialistic, They don't need to be, America is one of the biggest countries with some of the most resources. They may have been out for more power but not more land. The difference between Empires and super powers in my opinion.

I suggest you look up and read some books by Harvard historian Niall Ferguson who makes the argument that the US is indeed an Empire. However, he sees this as a good thing. To oversimplify, the international community exists in a state of anarchy and Empires help maintain order as well as economic & physical safetly and stability.

The American empire is more like the Roman empire rather than the european colonial ones that actually broke the world in the 19th and early 20th century (giving Imperialism a bad name). America does encourage democracy and promulgation of its governing institutions around the world (much like Rome) and allowing economic expansion for the citizens who toiled under its spheres of influence...

I'm Sorry But yea i disagree with the European Colonial Empires But you as an american can not as if they hadn't happened there would be no USA Or Any other country in North or South america except for THe natives.
And The Roman Empire was Amazing , It still did Kill Invade many countries and slaughter the people. Hopefully America is not like that.
Anyway I don't see how you can possibly Compare America to the Roman empire,

If your talking about whp's Encouraging Democracy then it's the Europoean Union, have a look at that. It's Using Soft Power to Encourage Democracy instead of Hard Power.

I am a proponent of the idea of America as Empire and faithfully served six active years in its Legions!

At 10/22/06 05:17 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:

At 10/22/06 01:19 AM, ImmoralLibertarian wrote:

At 10/21/06 06:36 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: Btw, how do you tolerate your beer/ale/stout in your country? It's like drinking mud, except not as tasty.

What…? Opposed to the weak pig-piss you call beer?

You mean that liquid, golden heaven that I call beer?

I tried to get drunk in several American bars, didn’t happen, I only needed to go to the toilets a lot.

Your beer only has 3% more alcohol than American beer has on average. We have 5-6% you guys got about 8% I believe.

The difference between American beer an scottish beer is american beer is a lager disguised as a 'light beer' which doesn't have any taste. Scottish Beer Is Proper Ale Beer which has taste, But people who drink mostly Lagers aren't ready for the taste of real beer.

I drink Lager most of the time cause it's cheaper, but proper beers alot better

To be honest, if America were out for more land, then america would of had more land.
I disagree with people who have called america Imperialistic, They don't need to be, America is one of the biggest countries with some of the most resources. They may have been out for more power but not more land. The difference between Empires and super powers in my opinion.

I remeber starting this post, and all I wanted to know was why America hasn't got a real name. I said Everyone calls Americans americans, an the USA america. But atually it could mean anyone from north or south america because there also on american continent.

And Mexico Is a United states in america.
But it's real name is Mexico.

But the US's real name is the united states of AMerica, why doesn't it have a real name as well.

Most country names are names of there own, Like england scotland france, canada,mexico etc.

AMerica on the othe hand is The United states of America.

At 10/19/06 01:55 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:

I don't hate Canada, Mexico, Britain, or France. I dislike the actions and behavior of individuals and organizations within those countries. I don't hate Britain because of morons like you, I dislike certain British viewpoints that are uttered by uneducated, misinformed, and ignorant little children like you. You distory REALITY in your head, you have a predisposition to label all things that counter your untrue views as 'hatred' when really its just strident, informed and coherent criticism.

lol no it's not, re-read you fuckin posts, recently you randomely started callin canadians Cowards because of an american who sayed he wanted to move to canada, and you've proper slagged of mexicans, your continuly callin every one anti-american because everyones jealous of america., your posts are often very biased an sometimes just nicely typed bollocks. You rarely have anything to back up your claims. Your keep callin people uneducated and childish if they don't agree with the shyte you right.

If someone doesn;t agree with the war on iraq or guns, you call them cowards an hippys an shit.

I mean in the other post were i sayed 1812 was a canadian/British victory you told me to kill myself, lol

to the actuall post an not me just bitchin bout cellardoor.

The news shows Mostly Bad news because Bad news is unfortunatly more important than good news. Terrorist attacks, soldiers dying an murders are need to be told more than how Jamie Olivers getting on with his school dinners

At 10/12/06 07:50 AM, isolatedboy wrote: OK,thanks for the reply of cellardoor6 anyway.
i want to tell you that i do live in China now and i am Chinese.
i have read all that you wrote and understand it.
i feel that you seem to hate and look down upon we Chinese.
in my view, i think that China involved in Korea War 50 years is a wrong decision. because most of Chinese now hate N. Korean very much, though our government helped N. Korea. I hope you can distinguish between Chinese government and Chinese. our leaders do not represent us. we also like democracy and freedom,just like you.
because of your powerful weapons, so Americans were killed fewer in that war.
anyhow thanks for your reply.

lol you muppet, he just sneakily boasted on how many chinese his grandfather killed.

I hear alot of mention to korean war in american films an TV. And of course theres M.A.S.H

I don't know anything about it really cause i'm English.
But I do know The CHinese Suffered huge amounts of casulties.
Americans were hugely advanced in technology and tactics to the Chinese who just used Sheer numbers. I don't know why you say AMericans the americans were cowardly.

ANd america became very good allies with south Korea.

http://www.guardian...y/0,,1736424,00.html

32.6% of adults keep guns in or around their home , according to a 2002 survey. An estimated 40% own a gun

30,136 people were killed by firearms in the US in 2003; 730 of these were accidental

1.3m rifles were manufactured in the US in 2004; as well as an estimated 294,000 revolvers; 728,500 pistols; and 732,000 shotguns. Only 132,50o of these weapons were exported

And to Cellardoors statement saying You all need guns because your
Get so much Crime from illegal immigrants. Therfore need guns.
The UK Has a much higher Assault, Burgalry, Robbery an car theft rate. But AMerica has a much higher Murder rate. So that proves your little statement wrong.

Ok in America, someone robs your house, your allowed to kill him. Fair enough, bit savage but yea, at least he won't be robbin any one else of there stuff. lol

But 730!!! Accidental Shootings. FUCKIN HELLL! 730 people killed by accident.
ok you get more of that by cars but you can take away guns and you save 730 people a year.

I think it's stupid for the most advanced nation with a medium Crime rate to have to keep guns to protect them selves from other people and the goverment.
How is that free

At 10/18/06 08:26 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Disproportionate bad news is a political tool by opposition parties. If ANYTHING happens that is bad or negative, ANYWHERE in the world, people will blame the US and it will increase Anti-US sentiment even if the US has nothing to do with it. People believe that America is the center of all bad in the world therefore any bad news will be blamed on the US.

Your distorted in your view my friend, People aren't anti-american were anti people like you who have to bring up America in every fuckin post you make.
I don't no how you can keep repeating the same thing about everyone being anti-US when your Blatently Anti every other country. Your always find a way to bring your love for america into every topic and your hate for Canada, Mexico, Britain, france.......etc.

At 10/18/06 12:10 AM, 200monkeys wrote:

At 10/18/06 12:02 AM, zzzzd wrote: France has never been an enemy of the US.

I never said US. I said America. The United States came after this time period, so I was hoping no one would think to associate them with the period we are talking about. America, or the American Colonies, did fight France. Even though they were British, they were Americans. So the British Colony of America fought France. Then, when America attempted to become it's own nation, France sided with them because they truly only fought the Americans because they were British.

You either mean US or the continents of north an south america and france hasn't thought either, they jsut thought british colonists. The american colonies were spanish, british, french...... France only fought the british. They were british colonists in northen america, they wernt americans. You only talk about americans if your talkin about native americans or united stateians (lol weird name).

It's better to put it like the French Fought the British then alot of the British's people revolted and france sided with them. And fought the British.

If i went to live in america i wouldnt be american unless i got american citezenship.

The colonists were British until they got independece.

lol fuckin hell mate. calm down, i didn't wanna make you cry or anythin i'm just pointing out the truth.
if it makes you feel better then i'll say the redcoats one it.

And whats with the saying how shit canada is because its uninhabitable. That's not there falt lol.

If canada or australia were as inhabitable as america is then both of them would be as powerfull as america is today.

Theres not a big deal about america, it;s just a huge bit of land which is all inhabitable and full of resources which was colonised by one of the leading powers of the time , had no dangerous enemys around. And therfore just managed to easily build for a couple of centurys and remerge a super power.

And Canada did take land of you. They just gave it back.

Chist, your really gettin pissed off. You really can't admit america lost to your neibours.

At 10/17/06 11:55 PM, 200monkeys wrote:

At 10/17/06 11:52 PM, zzzzd wrote: France has never been a Enemy of America, infact it was your first allie, and without the french the war may of turned the other way.

French-Indian War. The French and the Indians fought against the American Colonies. I made it clear that that was because we were ruled by Britian, but obviously you didn't read my post too well.

I read what you said, but before the american independece war, you were British, So France has never been an enemy of the US.

You said it i a weird way. And you also said France was in a way americas enemy. Which is not true because there was no USA in the seven years war. therfore France was not an enemy, and infact the nation which the US should hold most dearest to them.

At 10/17/06 11:44 PM, 200monkeys wrote: (beautiful, beautiful post Cellardoor, but next time you pour your mind into a long post, you might want to try to make it on topic. I know you just used a lot of words to make his little words look insigifigant, but neither of the posts were really on topic, so I would suggest forgetting your quarrels and discussing the matter at hand)

I heard people talking earlier about France being an ally and an enemy and all, so just for clarificiation for the dumber among us, We fought France in the French-Indian War because we were with Britian. Then, in the Revolutionary War, they sided with us to get at Britian. So in a way, they were America's enemy, but hardly, because it was only when we were British citizens.

France has never been a Enemy of America, infact it was your first allie, and without the french the war may of turned the other way.

And Cellar door. Your long post didn't explaim anything just then, just seemed you started gettin pissed of because.... in your words 'your embarrised by your countys passed' something you've said about a number of countrys in your previous posts.

Canada ended up with more land. America didn't.
It wasn't a desicive victory but technically seeing as you both invaded each other. Canada won.

And i was reading you did start it. One of your fellow americans said he would of gone to canada. And you started calling him and canadians cowards even so he himself isn't atually candian, I don't know if he was joking or whatever but theres no need to start calling canada cowards. (especially when they won a war 'technically speaking' against america)

ya wankerrr!!!

At 10/17/06 09:04 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:
Thats not loyalty, thats submission to opression. The Americans who revolted against the British were loyal until the British started exploiting them, treating them as 2nd class citizens, taxing them into oblivion, and disallowing them from making their own decisions. Then the final straw was when British soldiers raped our women and massacred children. Then the determination of the Revolutionaries was made stronger when the British executed wounded colonists and massacred entire towns for harboring (or allegedly harboring) revolutionaries.

Canadians are descendents of cowards who would rather lay down in submission to the British than fight for their freedom. And the fact that Canada is technically still part of the British empire and it's head of state is the Queen of england is a testament to their cowardice. They may not actually be ruled by England, but take a look at the facts. Canada is technically a Constitutional Monarchy, an extension of Royal rule: Monarchy in Canada

Lol, the cowardly canadians who beat the 'mighty americans' in 1812 is it. o yes

your so anti every one and every country which isn't american.
Theres no need to start sayin shit about canadians. This is about Americans Independence from Britain.
Stop using any chance to start insulting other countries with stupid remarks.

What country does celebrate an amount of people in there country. lol

At 10/16/06 10:11 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:

Um The Soviet Union had over 100 people die in their space program. Thats not including their own scientists that they executed who failed to engineer a spacecraft to reach the moon before the Americans could. Thats not mentioning the fact that America had WAY more frequent and WAY more ambitious space missions than everyone else.

lol, it makes you laugh though. I don't know why they were executed, they won the first two races which were way more impotant. poor cunts

And thats HILARIOUS coming from you, a British person who belongs to a country whose only citizens ever to go into orbit had to hitch a ride on a US space shuttle! How pathetic are you to mention the death of 12 NASA astronauts when the US has had 10 times as many space missions as all other countries and organizations combined? This is all while your country doesn't even have a real space program and relies on the US to launch your fucking satellites!

It's not pathetic you ignorant cunt, Britain doesn't have the funding to send people into space, when space technology came about, Britains time had gone. It's only been 40years anyway, the space age has just begun. in the next 40years, chinas space program will be huge, as will americas and i expect the european union will have deveolped it further than that shitty one in france. Also indias got one going well.

Theres more of a chance that it WILL be than the flag of any other current country. In fact, did you not already know that there is a US flag ON THE MOON RIGHT NOW? The moon already has a flag on it, and thats the good ol' American Stars and Stripes.

I don't like the american flag, its to complicated. lol. British design basically anyway

The bottomline is, the US is simply leaps and bounds ahead of any other nation in space technology and funding and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. If the US could land men on the moon 40 years ago, it can land multiple men and women on the moon with equipment to maintain their lives for long periods of time within 40 years from now, that is before China will probably even send a spacecraft out of orbit judging by the rate they are going now.

judging by the rate there going???? open your eyes boi, a couple of years ago they hardly had cars, now they've sent two men in to space. It's mental. If they have advanced so far to do that they can get people out of orbit. Your one of those americans which cant accept the fact that america will not be in the lead for very long. and ignore chinas presence

The reason that China has the economy to sustain a space program is almost entirely due to the investment that western nations put into their country, especially the US. More than 60% of China's economy revolves around the US, the economic cooperation the US has with China is pretty much the only reason that China has the success it has today. If China was really in a space race against the US, the US would simply cut off investment and cooperation with China. This would hurt the US economy, but it would DESTROY the Chinese economy, then they wouldn't be able to maintain a space program.

At the moment.... Soon china will be extremmely independent economay wise.

anyhow america landed on the moon but didnt claim it. Your to western world to make such claims. China is going to be the one which claims it.

The US claimed the moon on behalf of the human race for sentimental purposes. But if the US feeled obliged, it would inhabit the moon if such a thing is possible in the near future. The US spends billions a year on achieving this goal and other goals like landing a man on Mars. If the US is truly determined to inhabit the moon, it will happen before any other country. Not to brag, but the US is almost always at the forefront of human developement and is almost always the country where the biggest breakthroughs take place. From discovering electricity, to inventing the lightbulb, inventing the airplane, inventing the computer/internet, first, landing on the moon and so forth.

I know america has easily got the technology to land on the moon again an again succesfully an do whatever, but 40years have gone by an they haven;t sent another, i know there planning again, but china is right behind. AMerica has said they will land on the moon again in 2018 i think but china have said 2017 and say what you want i belive completly they will do it.

Also Electricity, the ancient greeks had some understanding of electricity, the american with the kite had the same idea as many europeans at the time. The reall people of electricity are Alessandro Volta an italian who invented the battery and Michael Faraday a british man who understood it.

And englishman first made an electric light (Humphry Davy,), his work followed by another englishman, then followed by two americans the last of which found the best filement (thomas Edison)

who invented the computer? Depends how you look at it, Many Europeans had ideas in the 18th and 19th century including Charles Babbage who deigned a programmable digital computer, but lack of funding and technology didnt make it happpen.

the first Digital, Binary and programmable Computer was german made, shorlty after america invented the first electrical digital,binary computer, But it wasn't programmable. THen A British scientist invented the first electrical, digital, binary programmable computer.

All these were invented within years of each other in the 1940's

the americans did invent the internet, even so alot of british say we did, i think a englishman did something huge towards it but americans did invent the internet

Of course the wright brothers are famous for the first areoplane, But a couple of others did fly before them. Just didn;t take photographs, lol

I don't think so. If any country 'controlls' the moon it will almost certainly be the US. If you go to an observatory and they direct their telescope at the moon during the summer months you can see the American flag! (debunking the conspiracy theories). The US already has its flag on the moon...

Mate, I never fucking belive any of those conspiracy theorys anyway, I know Man landed on the moon and even so i'm not american i feel 'uplifted' an 'moved' when armstrong steps on to the moon. But i still reckon china will get a man on the moon before americas next man.

At 10/16/06 05:59 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:

At 10/15/06 08:11 PM, zzzzd wrote: I reckon it'll be this, seein as china are planning to land on the moon in the next 25 years.

Hahaha I don't think so. They are decades behind the US in space technology. They haven't even launched a probe out of orbit yet... The US was the first and only country to land a man on the moon and did this 6 times. The US has landed 3 robots on Mars, the US is the only country that has had successful probes reach the outer planets and in fact the only country that has sent an object outside of the solar system. All China has done is what the US and the Soviet Union did in the 50s.

Also, the US is also developing a spacecraft to transport humans to Mars and plans to do so before 2015. People may say this is impossible, but they said the same thing when President Kennedy planned to lan a man on the moon "within a decade", and they did it...

China simply lacks the technology and economy to support a sufficient space program.

If any country that exists today is destined to inhabit the moon, it will be the US, thats not patriotism that is just logic. The only possible competitor is Russia, but their space program is laughable compared to that of the US and current Russian spacecraft are copies of the US NASA space shuttle.

This is what I think the moon flag will be. 51 stars, the 51st state of the union is the moon:

But China have come from one of the shittyest poorest countrys to being the 3rd nation to send a man into space,

anyhow america landed on the moon but didnt claim it. Your to western world to make such claims. China is going to be the one which claims it.

I bet 20years ago everyone would laugh if we said china would send people to space. But they already have.

I still think it's sad russia gave up on there moon program once america had done it.
Russia was the first to get a satterlight into space and the first to get a man to space, and they did it so much better than americans. America spent millions on designing a pen which works in space. the Russians just used a pencil. legends lol.

But yea i would much rather america controlling the moon than the chinese.
But i reckon china will do it

At 10/16/06 07:22 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:

Besides, if a deer isn't shot, then the way it will eventually die is usually from wolves or bears that get them when the deer gets old or sick and can't run away. Personally, I'd rather get shot in my heart/lungs and bleed to death in 30 seconds than the alternative of getting clawed to shreds and finally have my throat ripped out by a hungry predator. Wouldn't you?

Theres nothing wrong with hunting, and no way should americans have that taken away, But You don't need to go hunting deer with an AK47 or a Tactical sniper rifle or anyother army based gun. It's stupid

At 10/15/06 10:09 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

At 10/15/06 02:11 PM, Der-Lowe wrote:

At 10/15/06 08:54 AM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:

Oh, in case you hadn't noticed

Empanado's habitat : Santiago, Chile.
Pyromaniac-1's habitat : Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Der-Lowe's habitat : La Plata, Argentina

Again, why should we care?

Why should we care about all the bollocks about america posted on these boards, stop being an arrogant cunt

At 10/15/06 10:12 PM, JMHX wrote: I dislike that answer.

i'm not bein a cunt. Obversly the US lost many brave young soldiers an god bless them for that, With out them i might be speaking fucking german,

but the way cellerdoor bluntly put it that is how i can see it, not trying to be a wanker to america, different people hav different views on war

I wouldn't say wars pointless otherwise i'm saying all the soldiers who have died in war have died for no reason, but i would say war shouldn't happen.

At 10/15/06 09:05 PM, BanditByte wrote:

So all you english asslicks can piss off.

more like Britain payed for your way to your new household and protected you from all the muggy cunts

I reckon it'll be this, seein as china are planning to land on the moon in the next 25 years.

Is argentinia an brazil spanish the same as spanish spanish, like america an canada is to england, or is it alot different?

At 10/15/06 07:44 PM, fahrenheit wrote:

At 10/15/06 07:35 PM, zzzzd wrote: You were British.

This wasnt directly after the British landed in America. By then the Colonists had become their own seperate group and had developed their own cultures. Calling them British is like calling me a New Yorker, just because we originate from the same place does not make us the same culture.

yeah but you an new yorkers are still american, i'm just saying the difference between the american independence and other countrys who were invaded an occupied by a forein force

At 10/15/06 01:59 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made so, and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

What is war good for? It depends on the motive behind the war and the possible benefits of a victory by the benevolent party that participates in the war. War can be the only tool in preventing other wars or other events that are worse and of greater scale and detriment to human society.

There have been people who have said that nothing is worth war and that war has done no good. In fact, in the late 30's and early 40s there were people in the US that said no matter what the US tried to do to prevent the spread of fascism and to liberate Eurpope, that the by-product of US involvement would cause greater harm than good. But the claims of these same people were repudiated by the course of history and the clear fact that most of the modern world lives in freedom because of the war effort of certain countries, not only the US.

War itself is bad, the death of innocent people, and the untimely death of humans in general is an awful thing. But when war is won by a benevolent party it can bring about good, a good that was worth the death and destruction because it ensured the life and liberty of future generations.

I expect different people have different views, some americans like your self may think war is bad but brings out good , In ww2 Most countrys which fought in it came out absolutly devestated, Britain lost everything to the world wars, even so we won, cities an towns flattened hundreds of thousands civilians killed, also goes for many other countrys. America howether came out a super power, So ww2 was a good thing for america but absolutly devestating on europe.

So as you would say wars a bad thing but brings out good if you win.

I would say its a bad thing which win or lose your gonna suffer greatly, It certainly should never happen but always will.

At 10/15/06 06:06 PM, PirateMale24 wrote:

At 10/15/06 05:55 PM, EcKo-WR wrote: I mean a couple of taxes were no reason to rebel.

It wasn't just taxation. It was taxation without representation. Imagined being dicked over by a bigger country without having a say in the matter.

But it wasn't a different country , it was 'new england' We didn't invade your country and kill your people like britain did in ireland. You were British.

People in Britain wern't treated any worse than in america, the People of Britain were treated like shit by the rich. Poverty was huge, taxes took away what little money they had and so many riots were ended in the british army firing an killing British people.
so When people decided to risk leaving and going to the 'new world' they were a bit pissed of when it was the same as it was in england.