At 12/30/08 08:25 PM, MyMonkey wrote:
At 12/30/08 08:15 PM, nsc007 wrote:
so you're saying that the chances of the earth revolving around the sun and the sun revolving around the earth are the same?
Yes, as neither can be proven.
And why you think that the earth revolves around the sun? Just because someone told you? If you were told that the sun is the size of an apple, you'd be believing it as a fact.
I honestly think you are retarded. Quit spewing bullshit around. Everyone's aware that nothing can be proven, and the our entire existance could be one confection of the mind.
Why don't you fucking face reality, grow up, and realize that it's not a confection of the mind.
Human anatomy of how our senses work and science backed up with irefutable evidence tells us the earth revolves around the sun. (You should have learned this in Physics, you were probably too busy daydreaming about how everything could be a lie, Galiileo ring a bell?)
Copy Pasted so I don't have to explain:
That out of the way, let's get to specifics. If the Earth revolves around the Sun - and is not static in space - then it must be true that over the course of a year say, we observe differences - for example in:
i) the stars that appear at the same time in the night sky
ii) the altitude and azimuth (position with respect to the horizon's N, S points) of the Sun.
The first is easily verified, say over the course of obseving the night sky at the same time (say, 8 p.m. local time) each night. You will therefore see a procession of different stars, objects as time goes by.
This is the first indicator that Earth must be moving through space and not stationary.
A further observation to reinforce this is *revolution* and not merely linear displacement is obtained by repeating said observations *year after year* and making notes of the objects seen.
In the same 6-month period, therefore, you ought to see the same objects in the night sky at the same time.
This implies repetitive motion, and hence that the Earth is not merely linearly moving in space, but returning time and again to the same relative position in space (e.g. in it s orbit)
Second, the position, altitude of the Sun. If you do the same thing for the Sun, you will note its changing positions both in altitude - at specific calendar dates - and its rising (and setting) positions along the horizon.
Thus, it ought to be obvious - again, say over a 6-month period of observation - that these are changing.
Again, if you repeat them *year after year* you will see the exact same positions duplicated, suggesting that the Earth is returning to its same position in space relative to the Sun. (The seasons, of course, are also indicators of this)
