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At 1/14/09 01:27 PM, Tancrisism wrote: In other news, as has been widely known, Russia has been hoping to put a pipeline north of Russia, possibly through Poland. Poland, of course, is not happy with this, while large players like Germany are. In truth I agree with Poland - no one is more well rehearsed in Russia fucking a nation over than Poland.

Do you have a link for this? The only North pipeline I am aware of is The Nord Stream, which will run from Russia along the bottom of the Baltic Sea straight to Germany. If this is the pipeline you are reffering to, then I think you are slightly wrong.

The purpose of this pipeline is to bypass countries like Ukraine, Poland, %u0421zech Republic, etc to avoid paying transit fees. Poland is pissed off about this because now Russia won't need them to transfer gas to Western Europe. Which means Poland won't be making money from transit fees, and this would allow Russia to shut off the gas supplies to Poland whenever needed (for political reasons) without affecting the other European countries.

You are right about Poland being pissed off, but the reasons are wrong. They don't want an off-shore pipeline, they want a land-based one through their territory, which will give them negotating power with Russia, which in turn means more gas disputes.

So this pipeline is good news for Western countries like Germany, whom will be left untouched during conflicts. But for transit countries like Poland, this is bad news.

At 1/10/09 03:44 PM, domdom2323 wrote: Don't worry, it happens. Russia is just trying to make itself look tough with this action. However, it has shown that by shutting off the gas, it threatens to kill elderly people by depriving them of the warmth they need during the harsh weather in Europe.

Ukraine shut off the gas to Europe, Russia merely shut off the gas to Ukraine, AFTER confirming that none is getting through to Europe.

At 1/8/09 12:42 AM, Al6200 wrote:

At 1/8/09 12:19 AM, zase8 wrote: If time travel is possible, how come no one from the future ever visits?

It's possible that we could make a time machine that would only allow people to go back to the time where the time travel machine was created.

Yea, I guess that's an option. Or maybe the human race doesn't survive long enough to discover time travel.

If time travel is possible, how come no one from the future ever visits?

At 1/7/09 02:14 PM, Tancrisism wrote: The thing is, I am not so sure how concrete this accusation is. Gazprom are the ones who said that Ukraine siphoned gas, and they made this accusation after demanding that Ukraine pays more, to which Ukraine complained. Then they shut Ukraine off on Sunday, and said that the Balkans are feeling the effects of the siphoning... Isn't it possible (or logical) that the effects they are feeling is the shutoff of supply, not the siphoning?

You seem very positive that it is a one-sided matter. Do you know something I don't?

European countries registered a massive drop in gas supply on Tuesday, after Ukraine shut off 3 of the 4 pipelines leading to Europe. On Wensday, apparently, the fourth pipeline has been shut off, completly cutting off the supply of Russian gas to Europe through Ukraine. As a result, Russia shut off the supply to the Ukrainian border. The effects European nations are feeling now are the result of the shut off pipelines, not the syphoning. However, they initially registered reduced supplies of gas, this led Gazprom to accuse Neftogaz of syphoning.

Both countries are blaming each other. But, Ukraine has a history of syphoning Russian gas, this occured in 2006, and they even admitted to doing so: Link

As for the raised price, Ukraine pays $180/1000 cubic meters of gas, compared to Europe, which pays $450/1000 cubic meters. Gazprom wants to raise the amount Ukraine pays to $418, Ukraine doesn't want to go over $200. In addition to that, Ukraine wants to charge Russia more in transit fees and Ukraine owes Gazprom over $2 billion, for earlier gas supplies.

At 1/7/09 02:42 AM, LordJaric wrote:

At 1/7/09 02:25 AM, zase8 wrote: Ukraine stole gas from Russian pipelines going through Ukraine, so Russia will cut the supply by the amount that Ukraine stole, seems fair to me.

Is it fare that the rest of Europe has to suffer.

Nope, and Ukraine is the blame. They syphoned gas that was intended for Europe, so European countries recieved less gas than usual and now Ukraine completly shut off Russian pipelines leading to Europe. Russia is looking for other ways to restore the supply of gas to Europe, these include Belarus and the Black Sea.

Ukraine stole gas from Russian pipelines going through Ukraine, so Russia will cut the supply by the amount that Ukraine stole, seems fair to me.

The US isn't going to collapse, because I simply don't see this happening. Surely I know more about economy and politics than this guy does, after all, I got a C+ on my State Capitals test, and that stuff was hard. The article calims this geezer is a Prossofor or something, that's not even a profession, lololol.

People like Andrei Amalrik, Emmanuel Todd, and Daniel Moynihan, all of whom predicted USSR to collapse in 80's or 90's, were all complete lunatics, because no one believed them at the time.

There's no way to even approximate what could possibly occur in the future. For instance, if I release a ball from some height above the floor, there's no way to tell what will happen to that ball, it might fly up, it might fly to the left, or it might start playing pocker. I can't see the future...

At 11/5/08 12:33 AM, Gustavos wrote: Now we just wait until he's assasinated and we vote between Hilary and McCain, then McCain dies naturally, and chaos from there...

But for now, hooray.

I have that same feeling man.

At 9/27/08 09:27 PM, Randy74 wrote: Even though some scientist believe that everything started from the Big Bang, it is still just a theory. So we still haven't proven religion wrong on how God created everything. Besides, I agree on the mod who replied to this topic first on how being wrong sucks ass. I'm pretty sure you experienced something like that.

Every time there's a debate between Science and religion, some moron always brings up, "Big Bang's just a THEORY", or "Evolution's just a THEORY." That statement right there implies that you know NOTHING about science. This is one of the first things you learn, and clearly, you are uneducated in the field of science. So in that case, why are you even arguing about science when you know nothing about it?

A theory is something that's been proven with multiple tests and experiments, it has data and facts supporting it. The theory of gravity is also JUST a theory.

And, you're right, we haven't proven that religion is wrong, but that doesn't make it right. I can tell you that I am a giant octopus from space, and you won't be able to prove me wrong, so does that mean that I am, without a doubt, a giant octopus from space?

At 8/21/08 06:51 PM, animehater wrote:

At 8/21/08 06:46 PM, Saruman200 wrote: democratically elected

Sure.

People in Russia love Putin. There's no point in rigging the election when the majority of the population will vote for him anyway. Think about it for a second, why would Russians not vote for Putin? Yeah, sure, He constantly threatens European nations by cutting off the gas supply in the winter, and he also threatens them with nukes, blah, blah blah. But guess what? This has nothing to do with Russians. Do you really think the average Ivan in Russia gives a crap about Poland being under threat? He can't afford to feed his family but when he's voting, he will think, "Hmm, how will the world benefit from Putin?"

In 1990's Russia was a complete shithole, the country was in crisis, the economy was shit, people were piss poor. Many didn't even have telephone lines. Then Putin came to power, and in less then 10 years he turned it into a country that's well on it's way to reaching superpower status once again. Russia is becoming an economic superpower, it's becoming the energy supplier of the world. Russia already supplies most of Central Europe with Oil and Gas, and it's expanding the network to cover ALL of Europe, Asia, and even South America. It also has plans to build nuclear power plants to supply the neighbouring countries with electricity.

Russia's GDP has almost doubled in the last 2 years. Sure Russia is no America yet, and the standard of living there is much lower, but compared to what it was in the 1990's, it's very different. Moscow now has the largest number of billionares in the wolrd. Crime rates fell dramatically, hell even the Russian soccer team is starting to do better.

No matter how you look at it, Putin coming to power was the best thing to happen to the Russian people in the last 20 years. It might not be good for the rest of the world, but the rest of the world doesn't live in Russia.

I think Georgia is the only one digging itself into a hole. Putin isn't a moron, infact quite the opposite.

In my opinion the Georgian government is full of lies and deception. They keep signing cease-fire agreements, yet the fighting resumes. If Russia had no intrest to cease fire, they simply wouldn't sign the documents and keep the war going. So I doubt it's Russia who keeps violating these agreements, both sides are pointing fingers, and I think it's the Georgian army who keeps provoking Russia to fight. They're trying to make Russia look bad, but eventually the truth will come out. And if what I say is true, then Georgia will never be allowed into NATO. I say, brilliant move by Putin, and idiotic moves by the Georgian government. Like taking candy from a baby.

What I like the most, is how the Georgian president keeps saying that Russia hates the free world and wants to destroy the democracy in Georgia. The funny thing is, Russia itself is democratic now, and the people in South Ossetia have voted that they do NOT want to be part of Georgia. Yet, for some reason, their freedom is being denied by the "freedom" of the Georgian "democracy."

Medvedev is only a figurehead president. He has no real power, Putin is still calling all the shots. And Putin will be president again in 2012. You cannot be president for more than two consequtive terms, but you can be president for more than 2 terms. Putin is the one who nominated Medvedev, and in return Medvedev said that he will make Putin PM if elected. When people voted for him, they knew that in reality they were voting for Putin.

As for the conflict in Georgia, as far as I know Georgia started it by attacking South Ossetia. It was a brilliant trap laid by Putin to keep Georgia out of NATO. Georgia fell for it, and from what I've read, they were advised by US NOT to attack those breakaway regions. I smell a lot of Georgian propaganda here, in an attempt to get the world to unite against Russia.

The Georgian president seems suspicious to me, first of all he has a flag of EU in his office, last time I checked Georgia isn't part of the EU. Second, he uses very agressive language towards the Russians, their army and Putin. Childish insults if you ask me, considering he's the one who started the conflict after being advised not to. And finally, he is constantly being called on his bluffs by the Pentagon. He made claims that Russians are still advancing, that they are approaching Tbilisi, then he said that they have surrounded Tbilisi. While the Pentagon said that there are no Russian troops anywhere near Tbilisi, and it looks like they are slowly planning to leave the country. I don't know what the situation is like now, but at the time that's what the Pentagon was saying. Seems to me like he is putting on a show for the rest of the world to make himself look like an innocent angel.

I don't know who's to blame for this yet, but I definitely feel like we're only hearing half of the story.

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