257 Forum Posts by "Zalbun"
Yes, Because If there's one country the US HATES it Britain....
Wait, What?
Our Journalists portray the war in a Negative light as well. (Except for Fox), Yet Wolf Blitzer or the NY Times editorial staff aren't being knocked off in Mob Style hits.
Maybe they killed him, and if this was a targeted assasination whoever ordered it should be tried (and spend sometime in Gitmo) but I don't think that's likely...
Hillary wanted to make a Congressional Investigation into the "Hot Cofee" Mod.
Meanwhile, (real) people are dying.
He then Authorized a Treaty of Absolute alliance with the French which was supposed to go on until infinity, but in reality lasted maybe 20 years.
Everybody thinks they're winning!
The Scientific comment was your support for this ridiculous theory which is a theory of Political Science.
The argument over whether Conservatives are counter-darwinian (I made that one up) is trumped only by the you're stupid, no you're stupid, comments.
At 9/21/06 06:50 PM, AMFYOYO wrote:At 9/21/06 06:47 PM, Zalbun wrote:
I don't understand you're english. Maybe it's because you can't write. And that's not my name. Was that an attempt at a joke?
I forgot you're name. I also do'nt understand you're comment not understanding m'y english. I guess Im just not as good at grammar as your.
What does me saying that conservatives are stupid have to do with liberals standing up against conservatives who say that gays are the devil?
Becuase you Villify conservatives as Gay-Bashing and then procede to Right-Bash with ridiculous arguments such as "Scientific" proof of Lower Intelligence.
Libel isn't any more justified for political, rather than sexual, orientation.
I fucked that up, Here it is:
"Why do we back either side? Israel gives us nothing and in return we give them billions."
The GeoPolitical answer: Israel is the only democracy in the reason and we have a policy of supporting Democratized Regions. They were a crucial ally during the cold war.
The Realists Answer: They keep the Arab World In check. They're Public enemy no.1. America is no.2. Also, they give us information, and Lot's of it.
"And then they create terrorists. They want to live with that, fine, good for them. But I would rather have Americas name not associated with that attitude. We dont need to have our citizens dying because of some bullshit Israel is pulling."
Think The turmoil in the middle-east is caused by Israel alone? That's bullshit...It's a clash of civilizations in which both know dangerously little about the other. Americans are dying because they stand for something--don't back down from ideals.
1) Can you tell me why there are over 100 registered PAC's, with 50 active at any given time during an election, whose only job is to further Israels interests in America.
Because A lot of people don't like Israel. It's not like they're aren't pro-Palestinian PAC's their just not as good at it. That's their problem.
2) Can you tell me why the lions share of our foreign aid goes to Israel, a country with a GDP the size of Spains?
because they rely on our mutual defense pact. I don't think they should get most of out foreign aide, but that's an aside.
3) Can you tell me why AIPAC, considered by many one of the most powerful PAC's out there, sole job is to promote Israel in the USA?
See answer no.1 Also, So what? The Sierra club is a Powerfull PAC out to protect the Environment. Amnesty is their for human rights. What's the big deal?
4) Can you tell me why Wolfowitz, Perle, Wurmser, Feith, all members of our government when we went into Iraq, have written policy briefs for the Israeli government before?
Velied Anti-Semitism, which you'll deny as Anti-Zionism but it's there nonetheless. The answer is that they all worked with the Netanyahu administration, and Netanyahu is from a similiar strain of (I hate saying this) Neoconservatism. Do you think if a Buchanan republican was in power it would still happen?
5) Can you tell me why Israels opinion should matter to the US at all?
Because they are among our closest allies. But wait you're a Liberal aren't you? Why should the UN's opinion Matter to the US? or Britain? or anyone? If we have no obligation to the world outside the American people....well that school of thought (Moussolini, Anti WWII Movement, Pat Buchanan, Hu Jintao) That I simply cannot accept.
Fine, But I don't have time to present a complete argment for a Jewish Homeland so I'll answer some of your questions.
"Why do we back either side? Israel gives us nothing and in return we give them billions."
And then they create terrorists. They want to live with that, fine, good for them. But I would rather have Americas name not associated with that attitude. We dont need to have our citizens dying because of some bullshit Israel is pulling.
I'm not worried about any influence Israel has over the US. I'm more worried about the influence lesser countries have over the US. Random countries like Sweeden, Denmark, Lithuania, etc. Explain to me why their opinion matters to the US?
1) Can you tell me why there are over 100 registered PAC's, with 50 active at any given time during an election, whose only job is to further Israels interests in America?
2) Can you tell me why the lions share of our foreign aid goes to Israel, a country with a GDP the size of Spains?
3) Can you tell me why AIPAC, considered by many one of the most powerful PAC's out there, sole job is to promote Israel in the USA?
4) Can you tell me why Wolfowitz, Perle, Wurmser, Feith, all members of our government when we went into Iraq, have written policy briefs for the Israeli government before?
5) Can you tell me why Israels opinion should matter to the US at all?
Yeah--Liberals protect Gays.
But those Elitist Christians,Zionists,Nazis,Corporatists,Red
necks,War Loving, Jesus Freaks.
Fuck Those Guys, Their IQ is Lower than ours.
You can't have it both ways AMYOYO-MA
Why would you use ABC'S when there was no acrostic quality to that post.
Your suplerfluous argument adds nothing to current discourse, and merely serves as emotionally charged noise.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
LOLZ JK 1337 Bush is uber gay and cuz he sipports Israel and dem effin Zionists Nazi murdrers. COMMUNISM ROCKS!.
Wesley K. Clark.
He is a General.
No one else running was even a Drummer Boy.
I think that Libertarians would state that Monopolies are, infact, a detrimental market force to the same tune of Unions (simply inverse) essentially, both would be artificially distorting market equilibrium.
I'm sure Milton Friedman has an answer, but I don't know it.
John Kerry Had Lower Grades at Yale thatn G-Dub.
He's also not stupid, he got elected President of the United States while losing a war horribly, and running as an outsider despite being a Connecticuit Born, Blue-blooded, Tycoon heir.
He might be a horrible president but he's not stupid.
Furthermore IQ has little to do with Politics. (See: Bobby Fisher.)
It's a silly argument.
At 9/14/06 08:18 PM, SmilingAssasin wrote: The trend i've been noticing is its taking a lot of flak from americans, I rarely see a non american slate loose change.
Strange? I'll let you decide.
Yeah, Just Like In the Early Days of Auchwitz, Read up on it, You'll rarely see a non Jew/Catholic/Gypsy slate on the final solution
Strange? Not really.
It didn't happen to you. The perspective shift in America was far more that any other country, and the threat was felt most deeply in America, Just like the Holocaust was felt most deeply by the Jews.
Both are now claimed to be bastardized and corporatized, though I don't think anyone would say such a thing to a NY 9 year old who lost their parent, or a quiet old man with numbers tatooed on his arm.
Not to mention the NG forums rarely draw anyone outside the left (in any country).
And you are a man who doesn't know spelling.
At 6/2/06 09:55 AM, Flashthinker wrote: Why don't people just give up their religion?
Almost every single war that occurs on earth is about religion or race!
OK their Bud, because Imperialism/Land Expansion/Power Struggles never had anything to do with it. You know Like in the....
Pelponessian War.
Shu Han War
Alexandrian Wars
7 years War
War of Jenkins ear
Russo-Japenese War
WWI
War of Spanish Sucssesion
War of Austrian Susscession
The Dutch Revolt
Franco-Prussian War
War of Italian Unification
Austro-Prussian War
Spanish-American War
Filipino-American War
American Revolution
French Revoluion
Russian Revolution
War of 1812
Mexico-American War
Gulf War
Spanish Civil War
War of the Roses
Jacobite Rebeliions
the many many many wars of Ghenghis Khan
the Falkland War
The Football war (unless Soccer is a Religion)
The Panamanian War of Independence
The Cuban Revolution
The Mexican Revolution
The Sino-Indian War
the Columbian Civil War
The American Civil War (Not about Race)
The Boer War
The Zulu Wars
The Libyan Campaigns
The French and Indian Wars
...Just to name a few...
Look....Most People don't believe the ark Story(ies, There's three of them if you look). But discrediting a Folk Tale doesn't Discredit the existence of God, It's Like saying a Mistake in Taxonomy discredits Evolution.
I don't think their motives or Carrying out of those motives are any different from the CIA or MI-6, I just think unlike those organizations they Want People to know what they've done, as a "see-what happens when you mess with us" message. Have they done shitty things in the past? of course, but all those organizations have.
Sun-Worship.
1. You can see it
2.It provides life,
3. Itwill eventually destroy all known life (Probably)
and
5.without it we wouldn't exist.
Seems to fit the bill to me.
Paulie Shore will Provide the most incredible acting performance in History, and win an oscar.
Yeah.
All I can say is Welcome Home.
Jews (Mind you not Zionists, but Jews) are often very "Guarded" when speaking about the Holocaust. I ask you to consider the fact that their were 7 Specials on Bird Flu in the last two weeks (Sweeps of Course) and Do I think that was too much, yes.
But here's why we get Defensive. Because the World Church of the Creator still Shoots up JCC's, because It is outright Denied in Iran and other Middle east countries, because the Protocals of the Elder's of Zion is still read in fucking schools in Japan (according to Wiki so maybe). And Lastly, because survivors still live.
I have not seen a single piece of information ever produced for Holocaust Education which failed to mention the slaughter of Homosexuals, Poles, Catholics, Gypsies, so I'm not sure what you are getting at.
Too be honest, besides the History (Hitlery) Channel, the most i ever see about the Holocaust is on these forums.
Of Course there's the Zionist Connection, but that's not just self-satisfying, if the world wide Romani community Claimed they needed a safe Nation, I'd be all for it, but because of their lifestyle it is not likely. If Poles justified the Nation of Poland in its name, well I think that would be reason enough too.
RedSkunk, How is it written off as "human nature" apollogetically, when the Palestinians vote for reactionaries, and yet the Israelis, while still in a "police state afraid of being suicide bombed." are reprimanded when they Don't vote for reation Likud, in favor of a *Moderate* Option.
Jos, they're Moderates. The Reactionaries want to take over the Reigion and Segregate out Arab-Israelis as well.
At 4/21/06 08:25 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:At 4/21/06 08:21 PM, Zalbun wrote:If you would read the fuckin article its a DEMOCRAT from FLORIDA who is doing all the hell raising.
JEW MASTURBATION
Yeah A stupid fucking One, Who Doesn't Realize this is a Golden Oppurtunity for The Republicans to offer the Jews (With their Hordes of Money and Perhaps Goyim Blood.)
She's a Stupid PC Bitch.
Here's the bottom Line, NO ONE FUCKING CARES! IT'S JUST RETARDED!!!
You can Complain about it, but it's not going to affect anyone or anything, except some borderline Righty New-Left Neocon Prospects.
At 4/21/06 08:16 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:At 4/21/06 08:09 PM, Zalbun wrote: But Then I would be a Prick.Yeah, the problem is Blacks and Hispanics are under-represented in the media and goverment, not over-represented.
I agree.
Jews dont grow up in ghettos. Jews dont have problems spreading their messages. Jews dont have problems getting a good education.
And..That's a Bad thing.....That we advanced in Society...Because I got News for you Bub...In 1930 The Jews were in Hell's Kitchen, the West Side of Chicago, 7 Mile in Detroit, It was the Mics, Whops, and Kikes. Murder Inc, that was a Jewish Mob, as was the Purple Gang.
But like other Turn of the Century Immigrant groups we got out.
This month is Jew masturbation, nothing more or less.
It's Jew-Vote Mongering
And you are an idiot who twisted my words.
No, I pointed out you were being a dick.
As if we dont hear about the fuckin Holocaust, Israel, and other assorted jewery a-fuckin-nough.
Your just mad cause, OMG, I spoke against Jews right to bitch and raise as much shit as they possibly can.
Do you know what your doing right now? Bitching. I hate those who Bitch. Jewish Women like Barabara (as i Previously Stated) Black People, WHite People, Kentucky Blue People.
At 4/21/06 08:01 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:At 4/21/06 07:47 PM, Zalbun wrote: No, I dispute the fact that you aren't a dick.How? Pointing out the obvious?
No By Dismissing one of the Greatest Massacres in human History
Media Coverage=Where The Story is, we're industrious people, and Often end up where the Story is.So you need a month to make you feel more recgonized in America despite the fact you recgonize Jews recieve copious media coverage (and have a copious ego) and everyone knows what plights Jews in America have to go through, like which bagel to buy?
See That's Where you lose. Right There. You don't seem to Be Realizing that I think the Month is stupid. What I'm arguing is that Your a Prick. I could easily say Black People Don't Deserve a Month because their toughest Desicsions have been which 7-11 to Knock over. I could say the only stuggle Mexican-Americans Face is Drying Their Back, Arabs are terrorists, Indians smell bad and Monopolize our Stores-- But Oh The White Protestant Race--Now They are being kept down.
But Then I would be a Prick.
Here's My Interperetation. NeoCons are a New Phenomenon.
99% of Jewish Conservatives are Neocons.
There are Elections later this Year.
Ergo.
The Republicans Are Trying to take the Jewish Vote (Jews Vote more often than most) by supporting Israel.
It's Stupid, It's Politics, Fuck the Neocons.
At 4/21/06 07:48 PM, The_Tank wrote: I had an epiphany. How about Genocide remebrance (or awareness) month.
I am spartacis!
At 4/21/06 07:46 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:At 4/21/06 07:41 PM, -MuTe_EcHo- wrote: You had to try to kill each and everyone of them.Yeah, thats what you tend to try and do to enemy armys.
The Point of War is not to Kill, the point of War is to Win.
Kunta Kinte.
