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Wow, I'm not the only one who has wondered about this question. Kinda like how everyone seems to think in literalism rather than expansionism, thas okay though everyone has a valid view on this subject.

At 2/3/05 08:49 PM, dr1zztt wrote: Is there truly a reason to our existance?

The reason for existence is like reality. Its all subjective to the individual. My reason for existing is to do what I can in this life to make myself happy and maybe someone else happy. I also feel I'm here to help people along their path. Hell, maybe in my "distant future" I'll become some kind of high level figure in the the government or create a world government, who the hell knows. But thas on a literalistic personal level.

In a more expansive sense for the human race, god only knows. George Carlin says plastic. "The world wanted plastic, couldn't make it its self needed us. There's the answer to the age old question, 'Why are we here?' PLASTIC, asshoooooole." I myself, believe that the question you just asked is why we're here.

The reason no one has been able to answer that question is becuase as we exist in this plane of existence, remaining in this state of thought we will never actually know, not enough to be able to tell someone. I believe that we are here to find out what our purpose is. It tends to seem to be a driving force behind alot of our behaviours is to find some kind of meaning and purpose in our lives. We need to make ourselves, as someone said feel "important". As a result we think that becuase we're the only ones that ask that question we're far superior to any thing else on the planet. But thas another rant for another time.

<*snaps his digits and bellows*> NEXT QUESTION

Is life itself nothing but a coincidence?

Blech. What a horrible word. If you mean were we put here for a specific reason? Were we allowed to come into existence or did we simply happen to? Dunno, don't care, I'm here, I'm enjoying myself for the most part, mildly entertained by the little life things and greatly entertained by the degrading intelligence and ceaseless human stupidity, my own and others. (the degrading IQ is just in general not specific to anyone or group)

Would it really even matter if we were not alive at all?

At this point in time. <*shrugs*> how important do you feel? <*sharpens a dagger*> I think the entire human race should be screened for intelligence and wisdom at the age of 25, define certain grounds ecologically, intelect, general health, functionality and any other number of things everything scoring various points. don't ask I haven't worked it out yet exactly. If you don't pass... <*slams the dagger into his desk*> well you die.

I do not give a shit if this was, by some astronomical chance, done before. It shall be done again, for I have said so.

<*shivers*> oooh, self deluded superiority and importance. Becuase you said so? <*scoffs and shakes his head*> I just ain't gonna touch that one.

I am Canadian go me, but considering the province i live in i might as well be living in America. Fucking stupid.. explatives x40 Ralph Klien.

Anyways, as far the supreme court having this power that power, over turn over turn that we're looking at a system that actually works pretty well. Further more, it doesn't end at the supreme court, it still has to go through the governor general who can stamp a no on it and drop back to square one.

Anyways, as far as I'm concerned there is little if any issue with the way the law making setup works. Since we have a representative democracy and a multiple party system generally any laws that make it that far have had the shit beaten out of them in the house commons and have wound up being so well ironed out pretty much everyone is happy.

As far as gay marriage goes, fuck who the fuck cares? I'm personally gay I don't give two flying fucks. Honestly, why the fuck do most gays want marriage when they can't even keep a fucking boyfriend for maybe more than 2 week - 3 months on average, this isn't the rule, just common. Not to mention more than 50% of marriages end in divorce, fine fine, I'll concede, there should be some kind of union situation, IE: France has a union lisence. But what fails to be recognized by the gay community here is that we are afforded the same rights through common law that we are through marriage. For the most part.

Anyways, I'm just gonns stop that rant before I get carried away.

Language as we know it is flawed period whether it be written or spoken. Written language was created for documentation and firther keeping track of things including the thoughts of a spoken language which is flawed to begin with. Flaw to flaw, sounds human enough to me.

Given the way humanity and society has shown its self to work to date. I would say that clones would automatically be treated as second class citizens whether or not they were organ banks or otherwise. New things get treated with distaste and distrust. Not make to fine an example but Afro Americans <*shrugs*>

As for the soul aspect, depends who you listen to and what you believe in. Some say you automatically have a soul, some say a soul must be earned, other granted. Its a jumbled confused mess. Since there's no direct concrete proof of the existence of a soul and the ideals that come out of religions and such, says that a soul is simply an imprint of consiousness. <*shrug*>

Those are my thoughts anyways

<*takes a drag of his smoke*>

Okay, as far as ghosts go I do believe that they exist. ALthough not entirely the way most of precieve or think that they do.

IThis brings me to the 20 + minutes of typing.

There is a theory of thr reality out there that has been developed over the last few years known as the stirated ot particulate thepory. Essentially this says that while our reality may simply be a matter of perception it is much more than our simple perception.

Imagine a picture made up of trillions of little dots varying in shade and colour and saturation w/e. Trillions of different colours. There is in each colour a perception of reality. IE: black can see the outline of the greater of the image and its sontext, as black in the absense of colour and nothing else, and white can see the full picture for all it is worth as white is the compolation of all colours.

For us as humans we could be considered, lets say for ther sake of argument and a little ego stroking, brown. We are the compilation of red, yuellow, and blue. Each of the primaries colours representing a varying form of reality, shal we say red, ethereal, blue astral, and yellow the true spiritual.

Since we are of the brown perception of reality we are granted minor glimpses into the other plains of reality. We see, on occasion when the stands of the mesh cross or when two dots areover layed or over lapped.

Since, personal view here, for these varying dots and strands and dots to exist there has to be something there to mantain and percieve them individually and inpedant of us, we occasionally see these beings.

Thusly, in accordance with such a concept. While we may perceptually be the only beings in existence which we can readily percieve in any immediate circumstance we have developed to believe that we are the only ones. But who's to say that there comes a point at which what we are is a mere perception of what others see and we are only slightly percieved by these other beings.

back to specific particulate theory and its roll on us, each dot represents a transition point. Black and white being the ultimate goals. As we progress and sense and age and eventually die, dependant on our actions and thoughts we progress or degress through these colours. Our perception expanding or narrowing.

When we die we might say, progress to blue, where our souls take on an progressively more natural form (fur concepts at play in that thought if your curious ask) util we reach white which is our truely pure form of what we are meant to be.

Thusly as we see ghosts whether or not we precieve them as people we know is on the the main question, it is what have they become. Since they have progressed to another form of reality they are occasionally allowed glimpses back at us, back to what they left behind. Others are sent down the ladder, only being able to see what they immediately percieve and not what is above them.

So, ghosts do exist, how ever they are not so much "lingering souls" as much as they are people looking and checking back. Maybe slightly interfering with things to our betterment or our detriment. A "huanting" could be someone who has passed on whom has decided that the place they have found, which exists across all reality is theirs and in accordance defend it in such a fashion. The Amityville house.

So while some individuals may not precieve or acknowledge "ghosts", "lyacanthropes", and "Vampirism" it does not mean they they do not exist in some form.

That is the basis of complex reality and the particulate/striated theories and my personal deduction and conclusions to support the existence of ghosts

Okay I do have a response to this and something to say but I want to make sure that you people are actually gonna read what I write before I spend about 20 + minutes explaining this theory to guys becuase its a long complicated process and thought. I'd hate to waste my time trying to contribute something to this sight and have it completely ignored or dismissed as what usually seems to be the case <*rolls his eyes*>

So simple response to this is "yes" or "no" do you actually want a relevant piece of information and concept contributed to this tread?

If not, ignore me.....

The concept of "Our Generation" is just messed. The fact of the matter is as, ya most of you say, we'kll be able to look back and say, "Its better now".

We have decline in health care decline in education decline in just about everything. The fact of the matter is What does it really matter?

Can we look back on the older cultures in a generational stand point and say this is how this was or this how these people thought and felt about what was going on?

The generational concept is something that will be lost to the ages one way or another. Things in our world change and evolve so rapidly, or devevolve as the case has seemed to be recently <*rolls his eyes flattens his ears and shakles his head*>, that the concepts that we hold dear and our moralistic values are nigh nonexistent.

IE: you to your grandparents, no not all of us have lost that sense of community or value system that it is better to help than it is to souly take but honestly how often do we hear about someone specifically going out of their way to help someone?

Honestly myself would prefer not to remember our generation. Our generation, Drugs, Capitalism, Loss of human value, Bush, Wars on Terror, Disease and continued problems and narrow mindedness. Ya what agreat age we live in, I'm so glad I exist outside of society.

I'm an artist myself and lahtouhg I have yet to be nailed and crusified for displaying my political views I'm sure in time it weill happen. The simple concept is, as was said, the powers that be contorlling the generqal populace are afraid of our "idols". Its not an insult to intelligence its actually damned smart.

Think about it, who you hear more? Your "idol" or your political leader. Artists are unable to put their vies into it, although that violates the freedom of speech, becuase it could turn the enitre system up side down on its damned stupid pointy head.

If all your idols suddenly began supporting a socialist economy, or a communist state then the general populace would eventually come around to that point of view and it wouldmean that the powers that be loose control. Its as simple as they're trying to keep well enough control of the populace so that nothing goes awry.

Our views and opinions are shaped largely by the world around us. Since the entrance of Qill & Grace homosexuality has become more accepted, QESG (queer eye for the straight guy) and things like QAF have made a difference, hell we now have a trendy version of homosexuality called metrosexuality. Stupid as hell in my opinion but wfe.

Our Idols and actors and singers have such a huge effect on the way we think the powers that be can't help but be scared about what they're going to say

I have no political affiliation. I believe the world will be under my utopian socialism in about 100 years or so :P

I beleive that if someone has a job and preforms to their absolute capacity they should be taken care of. There fore those who are incapable of moving past a certain social level may not do so. I'm a little fuzzy on what would warrent upward social mobility but thas kinda why I' m here. You guys at least make me sorta think no matter how dim uninformed or out right wrong your comments maybe.

No offense.

At 9/23/04 02:53 PM, XcakerX wrote: what about this issue of personal freedom???

personal freedom is a deep rooted value of mine, as well as many other true Americans. I strongly disbelieve in brainwashing, and that a person has the right to make up their own mind.

I really don't feel like becoming just another cog in the socialist system.

Personal Freedom, well first ya'd have to define what you view as your personal freedoms. Personally I do not believe in silencing people for their beliefs and I do not believe in removing peoples rights.

Further more your all focusing on the negative aspects of human nature. Socialism is a social form not a political form. Your right, humans are by nature greedy but greed dies where there is no discrepancies. For example if my buddy has, oh I dunno, The best new VG (Video Game) in the world and I don't I am there fore jealous. Jealousy leads to greed greed leads to neggative concepts. If there is nothing higher as an individual that you can strive for then you can turn to the striving higher as a species or as a community.

Humans everywhere require certain in laid things that are crucial to our survival. Importance, food, shelter, entertainment, love. There is an actual tier system tro this.

>Needs: Food, Shelter
>Wants: Love, a feeling of importance, acceptance, etc. etc. etc. if you want a full list talk to your local psychatrist, take a psych course, or read a book entitled How to Win Friends and Influence People

The fact of the matter is we don't have those feelings or anything as a result of our governments which are there to keep us happy no? Until the basic needs are fulfilled n o others can be. If everyone has the same shit then there is no reason for stupid "human nature"

Suburbia, minimal crime from an internal stand point. Why? CAUSE EVERYONES GOT THE EXACT SAME DAMNED SHIT. You all seem to be discounting that it is human nature to doubt anything that hasn't imediately shown its self effective. Nuclear power was impossible but now we thrive off it.

Here lemme simplify this for you guys cause thas alot of gibirish.

Your view (majorities if your an exception you know you are):

"Utopian Socialism will never happen becuase of human nature"

Human nature = Greed

My View:

"Utopian Socialism will work as human nature is to adapt for better an more likely survival"

Human nature = Survival

Result:

Human nature can be changed. Greed exists becuase not everything is equal. You want more money, why? Becuase if you do your better than other people, once you've been accepted by those people, as long as there may be nothing higher you will cease to be greedy except to the extent of keeping that title. If everyone has it then there's nothing to defend.

Another idea is a Fuedalistic Utopian Socialism where greed can be directed by upward social mobility and privileges. The government provides all with decent housing and such but certain abilities such as say maybe voting or something will be given to those who move socially upwards and once its obtained it can't be taken away. You just need to provide incentive.

Quick addition here.

Abuse is the stupidist word in the entire fucken english language. Let me put things in perspective for you:

I live with my fiance who I've been with for two years. The fights we have would be considered by the laws abusive. I get restrained, pinned, yelled. He gets yelled at attacked on occasion and belittled. By all means a surface view of our fights would show that we do not have a healthy relationship.

Fact of the matter is we're both male. I know that he knows that. Males have this automatic tendancy to either be agressive or dominate in some form or another. If my fiance hit me closed fisted and dropped me to the ground unconscious ya know what?

I don't call it abuse becuase chances are I fucken deserved it. Abuse is a matter of view or opinion. And yeah straight guys not only beat their wives but their children too. Keeeeeeriest on a fucken cracker. I'd never think a million bagillion years of striking a child unless it was warrented by some seriously ill behaviour.

Sensor me damn it, I'm evil.

At 9/25/04 07:08 PM, IonBlaster wrote: 1. Not all demographics have a college fund. Sure, there's a athiest, christian, black, and poor white person's college fund, but there's no hispanic or indian college fund. Besides, anybody who really wanted to go to college would get a regular job and work at it until they had enough money to go to college. Which brings me to my second rebuttal...

Okay well I'll agree with that. There is no issue with that comment as it is truth. If your that concerned about it your morons get a damned grant.

2. They can get any job they want. They just shouldn't flirt with the customers. I'm not stereotyping them; straight people do that to.

Now, Personally I'm gay, and I flirt with absolutely everyone. Or so I've been told anyways. I don't know that I'm doing and its not concious. lemme tell you my fiance gets uberpissed because of it.

3. Under the first 10 amendments of the constitution, any U.S. citizen is aloud to share a house. They shouldn't complain about not being able to be in a marriage. Besides, it's a religious thing (even though the bible doesn't like gay people) and not a political thing. Besides, some roomates have rights to health stuff.

WRONG MOFO. What the hell is a CIVIL CERMONY? is it not a legal, political form of marriage for individuals who do not feel that they need to be wed under the eyes of god for various and sundry reasons?

4. Not all straight people want to be gay. Alot of people like the pussy.

Okay, not all straight people wanna be gay, but almost everyone at some point wants to try it. You'd also be amazed at the number of people that are in the closet and lying to themselves. Hell I did for six years, some people do it for like 38 or more. The truth is that there are more gay people than most of realize out there. You make reference to older times and how gays acted. Well personally if it was a choice between lying to everyone around me about or being beaten, constantly ridiculed or disowned by my family....

Your damned rights I'd lie my flufy little foxy tail off.

Gay rights is not an oxymoron. I would be a gay rights activist were not the rest of them so fucked up. I don't want equal treatment from the government as I do not feel I am a minority or picked on. I want equall rights and consideration from the mother fuckers around who think it's either cool or manly to beat up gay guys.

WoW

I'd make things, I'd make them. God you know what it wouldn't really matter becuase as it stands now we'd be unable to sway most views. I've had this thought numerous times and I gotta say that I'd make acceptance the call of the day. Make people realize we're not that different from one another in the end and that reality is we're going to fucken kill ourselves off if we don't get our shit together and start behaving like a bunch of "United Nations"

And if it all came crashing down into chaos. All the better, means a new order can be constructed by the individual who'll do what no one else will. Honestly if I could figure out a way to kill the president of the US, subvert the populace, dodge the World Crimes Comission, and the beat back the US security forces, or subvert them too, I would have done it or had it done, a long long time ago.

*starts thinking thoughts in his little foxy head* maybe I should whack kerry and bush and make myself the only remaining electoral Candidate.

Wait, nvm, that requires effort, thought, money , and I have nowhere near the drugs to make things okay should I fail.

Regarding: What is Utopia?

Its the same as sanity and normalicy its defined by the majority. I would personally think that a world where LSD wasn't harmful plentiful and almost all illicit substances were legal and the things needed to live were free is Utopia.

But on a larger human scale look at Utopia, from my perspective, as a circumstance where all the people of a nation or community find both wealth and prosperity while maintaining an equal system of power and influence (can be obtained through a democractic fromat) and the concept of a Social Classes is a non-existent one. Everyone gets what they need and what they want as long as they work for it.

I don't imagine that should something like a revelution of this kind take place would it be smooth, except maybe in like holland and such, as no revelutions are. Its more of a thought than anything. I believe that even if it were to eventually break down the wonders and marvells that the human race could abtain during that time would be unlike anything. An age of true knowledge and prosperity.

>Pro: Canada has a far improved eductational system, exactly OUR doctors etc are moving down there
>Pro: Canada is a resourcefully self sufficient nation
>pro/con: The movement of people across the boarder for given illness is becuase American business men, same in Canada, lie, lie, lie. I have yet to hear even one Canadian claim he has the cure for AIDS yet I've heard it numerous times coming out of the states. The other reason for this is Canada doesn't push for people to stay. We're just as good and cheaper and more honest. The only reason is since the US offers the pro's better money they move down there. Trust me I think if Canada were to provide land for people according to their work more people'd be staying here.

As for working, like I said, its a shitty shitty deal that humans find they're importance through upward social mobility.

Just a couple of thoughts for people:

A) Stereotypes exist for a reason; ie: Orientals don't know how to drive. I agree with that, I've only been hit once and nearly killed about 15 times those 15 were damned oriental drivers. Could be coinsidence however stereotypes exist for a reason.

B) There are always external signs of a wrong doing or a wrong doing about to comense. Its unavoidable as it is physical responses to psychological distress. In example the 9/11 incident. The individuals were probably nervous but since being immigrants they'd consider they're stuttering as fumbling with the language and their scetchy behaviour as being as a result of not being in their own enviroment and so on and so forth. Also alot of people all over the place "Eminate" the subtle body language you pick up from someone who is untrust worthy would still be there its just not a conscious aknowledgement and since we're afraid of PC thing, for the dummies - PC = Politically Correct, that we won't say anything becuase we're afraid of being stereotypical.

C) Media, oh god, I don't watch TV for a reason, mainly it rots your brain but also becuase you can't believe any of the serious shit, like news, anymore than you can trust your kids, or your, favorite saturday morning cartoon. War is the worlds greatest attention turner. If a government is about to do something wrong or is big trouble and doesn't want the populace to know they go to war, or declare "war". It distracts the populace from what's going on behind the curtain. At least in Canada our politicians are honorable enough to just simply hand it over to a new leader. :P

D) Finally, whether or not you can automatically detect whether someone is going to do something or not stereotypes of terrorists exist for a reason as do all as I already mentioned. The reason they are stereo typed is whether or not all individuals are the majority of the populace are fanatical. In Facist government there are certain given mentalities that arise as a result of the indoctrination. Its something that can't be avoided.

So basically Utopian Socialism will never succeed as robert owen, myself and others might want it to, becuase people need to feel important and many of us obtain this through competition and upward social mobility?

What a shitty fucken deal man.

And yes Canada is a small piece of heaven on Earth.

How about this one good luck. Ultimately I haven't read anything but the original post but here ya go. How the hell do you outlaw what someone does in their private home?

If someone wants to have sex with their animal they will wether we say its okay not. If someone wants to take it in the ass *giggles and turns a little red* then they're gonna. You can't enforce a law that would create a violation in the concept of privacy.

And besides, if you guys want a nice little piece of advice don't simply try to ram it in that fucking hurts, lube is a good good tool, and play at it, ya know maybe finger her first see what she does, obviously if she freaks.... Women are complex ya gotta be a little more patient, persitant, and gentle.

Stereotyping is human nature. Look at how we function. Think of stereotyping more as labeling. If someone has a mental illness we label it. If someone has a neurosis we label it. If someone sounds, behaves, sneezes, writes, label label label.

Stereotyping happens in all directions at all times. Not homosexuals, actually you might wanna rewind that satement, few homosexuals automatically label people who disagree with our way of life as homophobes.

Shit I know all kinds of people who disagree with me on my chosen life mate but they don't fear me in any form. They don't ridicule me, and they simply say "meh, he's gay, he's an awsome guy with a great sense of humor" but the only thing is they don't agree with the gay thing so I try to ease tension and not flop around and cling to my mate.

Its something that is automatic human nature and yeah your fucken rights the states is generalizing and stereotyping the iraqi's that what your government does through media filtration. They didn't put news reporters out there to tell you the real story eh? They put em out there to filter what was going on from an "American" stand point and since (stereotype right here) Americans are overly Patriotic they are often blind to much of what else is going on or only have partial information.

When it comes down to it stereo types exist for a reason. And your appearance comment is issued and used every day at your super market. If I walk in dishevelled and wearing big baggy cargos yeah they're gonna watch me, hell I look hungry and I might rob em blind. If someone comes in wearing stranglers and is all clean shaven and what not.... you fill in the blank.

All I want to know is do you think its possible to have a Utopian Socialistic Society in which the government controls industry and provides its people with all the things they need as long as they work, the government of course being an elected body.

In example in Canada, we have all of our own resources at our disposal and have enough of a GNP that it could can be shipped out of country. Since right now there is so much BS going on between different countries could we not instal something like that and become a souly self sufficient country

I think its a horrible sport. I believe that on a farm they should be left alone. A fox hunts according to its needs as do all animals. They don't exactly kill for fun and as for the concepts of disease and such transmitted to other animals... Fuck isn't that why we get the vaccinated?

I personally think hunting for no reason other than sport is wrong. Everything has as much right to be here as we do and shit the foxes there have been around for eons. And then people came along and screwed up their habitat. And if things are that horrible and bad fucken demostocate them. Make them pets. I know I'd sure like a foxy as a pet that'd be sweet.

And besides who'd wanna kill something that cute?

Sick fucken British Crumpt Munching Tea swilling wackos. Just can't leave things well enough alone. No offense intended.

It's random not madon.

Well ultimately its inefectual to you as a person or anything else. However as I said in a previous post there is Paladin press. The reality is that, especially in the US, internal security is something to greatly worry about.

If they're watching what you check out obviously there's a reason. For example if a suspected terrorist checks out a book on advanced chemistry and a book on the history and aplication of explosives and various other books regarding the subject there is reason to potentially worry.

Since the library has it all on file anyways its either the government or some other rnadom person that knows what your reading. What's the difference?

Personally I'm the kinda person who'd march up to the FBI head quarters strip down naked and dance around there offices screaming "You watch everything else, now watch me dance around naked hahahahaha"

Well Red in answer to at least one of your questions its already taken place. There is a site on the internet known as paladin press. this site has all kinds of things from the anarchist's cook book to how to convert your chivet into a damned battle tank. Should you even stumble across this sight, or order anything off of it you are instantly put onto an FBI watch list. Gee wonder if I'm on there. *looks at his shelf dedicated to Paladin Press materials*

Anyways, stereo typing is not neccisarily a good thing especially when it comes to the concept of terrorists. If you've seen The Usuall suspects you'd understand. Kaiser Solvay, the big bad guy and aprently main character, plays a gimp for the purposes of escaping a rather nasty bout in jail.

Retards aren't intelegent or capable of master minding things. That guise took one of the worldst greatest criminal threats out of the hands of the police and back onto the streets, according to that story anyways.

When coming to a terrorist, stereotypes exist as a rule of thumb, "this is what we commonly see, so they pretty much all gotta be like that" similar to "All gay guys are nelly and limp wristed and every time they open their mouths a purse falls out." Not so the case. Hell if I didn't tell anyone they wouldn't know. The truly successful terrorists are the non-stereotypical ones that can hide right beneath your nose.

So stereo typis is excedingly bad, innocents might get accused, and the uninnocent might go free simply bedcause they don't fit the stereotype.

Okay, excuse my complexs and such they're just a format for identifying certain forms of behaviour. And I'm sorry to sya my friend that on some level or at some point in time everyone suffers from varying complexs.

Inferiority, Nasrcisism, Psychosis. And any number of others. Mostly though they appear on a larger group scale since humans tend to kinda be pack animals and choose to follow who ever appears to eb the strongest. As is always there are exceptions to rules and I hardly expect the, well some of the, intellegent individuals on this site to fall into those rules.

As for it being impossible due to diversity, explain. I personally see that the UN is a very base foundation in what I'm talking about. I wouldn't by any means neccisarily devide the whole world into a single unified nation but more so change it into a a nation devided into countries, into states into cities accordingly.

Look at Canada if you think racial diversity is an issue. We have pretty much every kind of possible ethnic decent in our country, everyone speaks a different language on some level if not many other languages besides their natice tongue.

However, what I speak of is only what I see as being the route issue of many problems. Other nations take over nighbooring nations why? Oft because an irrational fear has developed that these people are putting our way of life, our common ideologies and heritage and w/e else you want to come up with to define a nation, in jeopardy. Or it springs forth an even deadlier concept, as was the case during the Second World War and the French revelution and The Napoleonic Era, that our way of thinking is right best and justified and everyone should think like us and if they don't we will force them too. Was not the european issue during the early part of the 1800's that France unbalanced power in a conqouring fashion because they believed their thinking ot be right?

Did the US not get attacked becuase the middle east, or iraq or w/e feel that for some reason their ideologies and way of life were under attack?

I don't claim to know all and will quite happily lay down and accept another thinking if someone can prove to me beyond, it is right to have a sense of nationalism, that my thinking is wrong.

where'd you get that number? I can almost guarantee you as a canadian that not 70% of the populace is. Trust me if they were I'd be a lot happier.

I'm just curious. I just read a whole bunch on a whole bunch of stupid revolutions and it seems that this concept of nationalism is the fundemental issue with much of todays current problems.

Middle East or another country attacks for fear that their Nationalistic Concept is under attack or is under threat of destruction. That coupled with an inferiority complex that is present in all humans we've got some seriously stupid expansionistic people.

Would it not be easier to form a Globalist concept where the world kinda behaves as one nation?

okay okay okay, correction on my first post, ignore the best left alone as our friend maus has pointed out thas a rule designed for susrving and making a good impression in mixed company.

As for the god complex being part of the human psychy, something I recently picked up in my psych class. I make so specifics regarding which religion except the largely dominant ones and I'm using the sun as an example of lack of understanding.

Also meeting with fear to that which man does not understand is a rule of thumb. I'm glad your not like that but the general populace is not so inclined.

LMAO, what if Jesus was gay? Fucken rights, what a great question.

Ultimately it doesn't matter wether he was or not. Religion is a creation of the mind, there is an actual part of the brain that requires there to be a god. It exists to explain what cannot be explained, fill in the blanks after death since no one has really returned from death to tell us, teach a set of very good although sometimes mis guided creeds, and allow us to look at infinity and say okay.

Homosexuality and its relation to religion is the same as the sun and its relation to religion. We can't explain it so we meet it with fear. We don't understand the fundementals of it or why it exists.

Look at this way, animals have homosexual relations, dogs, cats, otters, dolphins, lions, w/e you name it its probably got that tendancy somewhere in it. So does that mean that a creature such as a dolphin which hasn't the capacity to sin or never has is going to go to hell?

I think there is alot of outdated conceptions about homosexuality and alot of propiganda surrounding it. So like differing views on religion and politics it is a subject best left ALONE.