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At 1/5/09 09:16 PM, Elfer wrote: Dog, exactly.

All you people are assholes who see life as a competition. You don't get married to seal the deal and lock up a bit of extra life quality for yourself, you do it because you love someone and want to share your life with them.

Everyone stop being dumb right now.

qft

At 1/5/09 05:41 PM, stafffighter wrote:

At 1/5/09 05:37 PM, aninjaman wrote:

At 1/5/09 05:04 PM, CBP wrote:

so I will, but I would not try to force this belief on anyone, not even my kids.

So you would be perfectly fine if you had a teenage daughter who was having sex?

It's not really fair to equaite sex before marriage toteenagers having sex. the two are seperate issues.

Just barely. Kids are having sex and getting married in their youths (and generally in that order) due to the devaluing of both.

At 1/1/09 11:36 AM, Brick-top wrote:

At 1/1/09 01:00 AM, Memorize wrote: He goes on a show and gets very simple, well known facts, blatantly wrong... then goes on to make a movie about religion, and you expect me to take him seriously or even watch his film?

How can you make claims on it if you've never seen it?

He is right about how that scene in the movie seems to pull its information from Zeitgeist. It was the one thing in that movie that made me cringe. :S

At 12/30/08 08:49 PM, Ericho wrote: The whole thing about this notion is that it's entirely hypocritical. Bill appeared on The Daily Show and said that he thought that "atheism mirrored religion". Oh, really? George Carlin said, "There is no God, there never will be", and you credit Carlin with your views on religion.

It's one thing to hold a personal belief regarding the super natural, it's another thing to claim that you are certain that your views are fact.

At 11/18/08 10:59 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: Homosexuals invade Mount Hope Church in Michigan

A well-known Lansing area evangelical church was the target of a raucous demonstration by gay anarchists during Sunday services.

Gay activists are hurting themselves by pulling these stunts.

To be fair, they're gay anarchists. Anarchists seem to have a knack for fucking things up.

At 9/12/08 10:54 PM, PinballWizard976 wrote: For Christ's sake people, Obama is biracial. His mother is white. Get it through your thick skulls. So, seriously, stop saying that he's black. He's half white, half black.

Almost all black people in America have some white in their family history. Obama just has a bit more white than most black people.

Who gives a damn if Obama is black, anyway? It's not like it really makes a difference (except for the whole people discriminating against him thing; but that's about him and more about those around him)

Isn't Native American heritage month November? >_>

At 2/18/08 03:13 PM, Vert wrote: 1 - How many American soldiers died on D-Day during the taking of Omaha beach?

I'm not sure, but I'd guess at lest a few thousand.

2 - Which front, the European East, European West (including the African front) or Pacific, had the total largest number of manpower involved?

European East

3 - Who was the best german, italian and japonese axis commander of WWII? You may name more than one for each country if you wish.

Rommel

4 - Who was the best american, soviet and british allied commander of WWII? You may name more than one for each country if you wish.

Eisenhower

5 - When and where did the war start?

Poland, 1939 I believe (for Europe, anyway).

6 - Of these countries, which suffered the biggest (total) number of casualties (both civilian and military) and which suffered the least: France, Germany, Poland, Japan, UK, US or Soviet Union?

Biggest: USSR
Least: US

I live in America.

At 12/25/07 12:54 AM, crazy-eye2 wrote: Anyway He does it all for a reason. What? Idk.

How can you claim that he has a reason when you don't know what that reason is? What if he doesn't have some grand plan and he's just doing what he feels like, making it up as he goes? Hell, how can anyone even claim to know a thing about this mysterious omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent deity that chooses to be so silent today? No one knows a damn thing about the divine, everyone only has their own ideas and interpretations of texts and oral traditions pertaining to a god or gods inhabiting a mythical realm that we have either no evidence or incredibly questionable "evidence" for; and based on this "evidence" (or lack thereof), people make assumptions on a topic that we really have absolutely no knowledge of whatsoever. I think that its okay to formulate our own beliefs concerning the divine, but it annoys me when people try to pass these personal assumptions off as fact.

At 10/4/07 09:19 AM, Draconias wrote: I want to support Equality-- and Gay marriage isn't equality

This is what I never understand in discussions concerning gay marriage--why does someone always say something about how letting gays marry isn't equality and how it'd be giving gays extra rights or something (although, to be fair, I don't think Draconias was stating that, I was just using this small fragment of text from his post so that I could ask a question that I've been dying to ask for years).

At 6/17/07 07:55 PM, altanese-mistress wrote: The South seceded from the Union for several reasons, only one of which was over slavery. To fram the war as morally just for the North, Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation to make it into a war over slavery; in truth the Emancipation Proclamation didn't free a single slave. It was laws implemented after the war that did away with slavery, and even those were heavily debated in the North.

What were some of those reasons? I usually only hear about slavery or the South being pissed that Lincoln could get elected with virtually no southern votes.

At 6/1/07 05:36 PM, Bolo wrote:

At 6/1/07 03:51 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: bah islam is nothing but trouble

Now, that isn't racist at all, is it?

Correct, it isn't racist. It would be racist if Muslims were a race or something like that.

But I do agree that Dante-Son-Of-Sparda (Is that supposed to be Sparta or is Sparda some location I know nothing about?) is pretty much an ass when he talks about things like this.

On another note, I think it's dumb that people would try to stop other people from converting to another religion. If the person wants to be a Christian or a Muslim or whatever, just let them be what they want to be. :/

At 5/14/07 08:15 PM, gumOnShoe wrote: Would love to see a communistic world

:<stuff>

:I can't see this happening without the use of robots. I can't see this happening either because I actually am not an idealist and neither are you.

I can't see this happening without the disappearance of scarcity, which will never disappear.

At 3/12/07 01:27 PM, Memorize wrote: Haha, that's great! We have another person on the forum who supports blowing up innocents. Haha, wow I love how people can be.

I love it when you set up straw men.

At 1/18/07 03:55 PM, zeus-almighty wrote:

At 1/18/07 02:53 PM, Loch-Ness-Monster wrote: It's because of this country's gutless leadership. We're only bossed around by America because our government accepts it. America's just taking advantage of this gutless government like any other country would. We need strong leadership, people who will look after this country's interests and not let us get dragged into foreign problems like Iraq.

It seems that you mixed up you're entire post. OUR PUSSY LEADERS ANSWER TO EVERY WHIM YOU BITCHES HAVE! WE ARE IN CHAINS FEEDING YOU GRAPES WHILE YOU SIT ON YOUR THRONE LAUGHING ENDLESSLY!

Independance from the euros!

In what way is America Europe's bitch? Sure, they complain and stuff, but Europe doesn't seem to hold as much political clout here as we do across the pond.

At 1/16/07 10:34 PM, kRaZyAzN wrote: Pfft, well, isnt China known as The people's republic of China?

Republic is a term which actually describes the way our government is set up and functions. Most don't really consider China to be a republic, even though it has the word republic in the title of the country.

At 1/11/07 04:56 PM, Nerdloc wrote: The following claims are all true!

Are you serious or are you trolling and/or setting a trap?

You lost me at the eleventh article. :/

I think what parents should teach is general morality which most philosophies, religions and laws in this country agree on (don't steal, don't kill, be nice to people, etc.). I think that the parents should then introduce their children to general concepts and ideas of religions, philosophies and laws from around the world and let their children choose want they want to belief wise.

Sure, you might want your kid to go to church and stuff with you and be a good Christian (assuming you're a Christian parent), but if you force the Bible and dogma down their throat, they'll usually grow to hate it and resist it. The best thing to do is teach and persuade.

At 1/7/07 01:20 PM, Vrael wrote: Yeah I don't believe we have ever had a Roman Catholic President

JFK was Roman Catholic.

At 1/7/07 10:59 AM, Reconstruct wrote: "NO PRAYER IN SCHOOL!" haha.

You can pray in school, you just can't have prayer led by teachers.

At 1/2/07 02:58 PM, Oblivia wrote: Whoa, hold on! You guys just totally missed my point! You guys totally twisted my words.

Okay, if a immigrant went through naturalization and legally earned citizenship, then I do not have a problem with because they are now American citizens, so this thread is not valid towards them. The real problem that I'm going at is when a foriegner who is still under the citizenship of his/her country and is voting in a American election. I call that a unfair Liberal powergrab using votes of citizens of another country and not just from ours. If the citizens of another country is allowed in our election, than we should be allowed to vote in their country!

Are you talking about people who immigrate illegally and vote while still illegal immigrants? If so, no one, not even the Liberals, is trying to make it so illegal immigrants can vote in elections.

Or are you talking about people with dual citizenship voting?

At 12/30/06 04:46 PM, Musician wrote:

At 12/30/06 04:11 PM, Dobio wrote:

At 12/30/06 04:08 PM, Musician wrote: anyone who believes in religion is either an idiot, or someone who is afraid to die.

I'd say anyone who has such blindsided, ridiculous viewpoints as yourself is someone who is definitely an idiot.

You just piled a ton of people into one outgroup, and you have no idea what you are talking about.

people who believe in religion are ignorant. They wouldn't even know a god exists if it weren't for the fact that they were being spoon fed gospel every day for thier entire life.

The fact that you believe in the god that you were taught exists and don't believe that any other religion could be right make you infact the blindsided one.

Um, I wasn't spoon-fed gospel and whatnot in my youth and I believe in God. I was raised in an atheist household and I've been studying all sorts of belief systems, whether they be religious, spiritual, political, social and/or economic. I don't fear death and I believe that I'm quite far from an idiot. Hell, if I stopped being as lazy as I was, I could be the best in all my classes . . . although, in today's schools, that isn't saying very much. :P

So, anyway, stop lumping people into groups and generalizing before you get to know everyone inside a certain group that you want to generalize. kthx.

At 12/25/06 07:32 PM, ViolentAJ wrote: The future will not be better. The future will only get worse and worse and the reason why is racial differences. For Blacks at least, things will get worse. All races get along, but no race likes Blacks. This is maddening, and I feel that I need to tell the truth as it is the only way to cope with the curse of being Black.

Uncle Ruckus?

While I myself feel that there needs to be a certain separation of church and state, I don't tend to use the whole, "Give onto Caesar what is Caesar's" argument. What Jesus said to the Pharisees in that instance could be, I feel, only very loosely interpreted to apply to church-state separation.

I don't know why Jesus wouldn't support a state where there was religious freedom and a separation of sorts between the church and state.

At 12/10/06 09:31 PM, JerkClock wrote:

At 12/10/06 01:49 PM, fahrenheit wrote:
And who are you to say that thats what he decided?

Well, if he didn't want it to happen, he wouldn't have allowed it to.

So God approves of various acts, such as genocide, which have gone on on the Earth?

At 12/7/06 06:48 PM, Elfer wrote:

At 12/7/06 05:43 PM, Werewolf91 wrote:

At 12/7/06 02:25 PM, Svoboda wrote: If you are european, you probably saw them sometimes or heard about them. They are almost always blacks or arabs, they wear ridiculous clothes but burn cars, hurt and kill people... They caused the riots in France, are invading us and destroying our security and our culture. However, a lot of leftists still defend them. What do you think about "scummy people" ?

What makes you think that all blacks, arabs and/or any and all people who get lumped into those groups are all violent and "scummy?"

He said "Most zips are zoops" and you're inferring from that that he said "all zoops are zips"?

You fail the logic test.

Bah. I misread what he said and from the words that got through to me, it sounded like he was just kind of hating on blacks and arabs. :/

My bad.

At 12/7/06 02:25 PM, Svoboda wrote: If you are european, you probably saw them sometimes or heard about them. They are almost always blacks or arabs, they wear ridiculous clothes but burn cars, hurt and kill people... They caused the riots in France, are invading us and destroying our security and our culture. However, a lot of leftists still defend them. What do you think about "scummy people" ?

What makes you think that all blacks, arabs and/or any and all people who get lumped into those groups are all violent and "scummy?"

Also, I don't think that hating them is the best way to defuse the situation here (if there is one in the first place). :/

I think we should slowly do a transition. We should have both SI and Imperial units, slowly moving away from Imperial and into SI. Using SI units for things like international trade, importing, exporting, etc. would be easier and cheaper because we wouldn't have to convert all of our goods from Imperial to SI every time we export to a country which uses SI.

Of course, I think that in the worlds of sports and everyday little measurements that Imperial units can be kept; or not, I could give a care either way there.

At 11/26/06 10:09 PM, SirXVII wrote: 1. How should this nation treat buisnesses and corperations?

I think that businesses and corporations should be closely watched by the government, but given a fair amount of freedom with relatively little regulation. There needs to be a balance between business, government and labor/citizenry. If one of the three becomes too powerful and/or corrupt, the country could easily be sent into turmoil.

2. How should government treat the poor, those without health care, those who cannot afford college, and those who have no where to live?

I think the government should try to educate the poor, unemployed and/or homeless. Other than that, I believe that it's mostly up to the citizenry to provide money to the needy. Of course, there are times when the government might need to intervene in extreme cases of neglect where there's no real chance of the situation getting any better soon.

As for those who cannot afford college and the issue of health care, I can't really give an opinion that I can pretend is informed, I simply haven't looked into those issues that much recently; I've been focusing my attention more on political, religious and/or philosophical movements and key leaders of them in various countries.

3. How should government treat public education?

Ugh. In a lot of areas, the whole thing's a mess. Parents, teachers and students need to work harder and be less apathetic for one thing. The government should also stop slashing into educational programs. I think their need to be more specialty schools around the secondary education level to teach kids who excel in certain academic areas how to use those skills in a small variety of jobs most suitable for them; although that's an idea I've been toying with lately.

4. How should government treat the seperation of church and state? Should it be stricter? Should it be looser?

The government should respect the beliefs and practices of those who are either religious or secular. If a child has to miss school because of a religious holiday or event, then they should be excused from school on the days that they have to miss. I don't think that there's a place for the Ten Commandments in non-religious schools or courts of law. It just doesn't seem to fit to me in general. Also, I think Intelligent Design should be part of a class on, let's say, Philosophy. Intelligent Design has no place in a SCIENCE class; and to me that's more of a separation of philosophy and science than church and state.

That's about all I have to say about that.

5. How should government respond to the majority? How should they respond to the minority?

I think individual representatives should stay with their constituency and campaign promises; and focus on what's best for the nation as a whole. Politicians should try to serve the majority, but in a way that allows the minority to still be happy and free (unless said minority is radical and militant).

6. If a minority idea conflicts with a majority idea then how should government respond to it?

They should try to do what they believe is best for the nation and/or what their constituency wants.

7. How should government treat religion, race, and cultures in this country?

They should treat them with respect and try to unify them as one, hopefully prosperous, nation.

8. What about drugs? Should the be legal or illegal? Should pot be legal or illegal?

Eh, I think that they should all be legal, but with heavy regulation and taxation; perhaps even bump up some of the age limits into the mid-to-late twenties for drugs like heroine and meth.

I'd prefer kids getting high off some weed than some kids dying from the choking "game."

9. What are the main things you think government should provide?

Protection, unity, a feeling that something might actually get done.

10. In general, what are the major things you think your tax money should be used for?

Education, public works, perhaps some of it sent to charities or given as aid to needy areas (preferably the aid would be used to try establishing infrastructure).