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3.80 / 5.00 4,200 ViewsAt 6/8/10 07:04 AM, jarrydn wrote:At 6/8/10 06:30 AM, waw460 wrote: Hiya, for everyone who loves french/filter house:No.
butthurt much?
http://www1.zippyshare.com/v/71995016/fi le.html
Opinions please!
(I know, the second half sucks, but i was too lazy to do it over again :p)
This is indeed véry good news.
This guy is responsible for the death of approximately 300 000 people.
At 7/12/08 05:44 PM, CIX wrote:At 6/12/08 08:43 AM, CptxMorgan wrote: Hitler more or less just ran under the National Socialist Party, his beliefs weren't those of the parties more than they were solely his. Of course considering he used the Nazi party as his guise, they're now associated more with the Third Reich than anything else.Hitler was a full blown socialist. He was sent by the German government to investigate what the socialist party was about and ended up being the party leader.
At 6/12/08 09:34 AM, KingAdamTheGreat wrote: many think the swas sticker is bad too,but it is actually an ancient symbol for prosperity and wealthThe Hindu symbol is rotated to make the Nazi swastika because it is supposed to represent a double S of the Socialist party.
The double S of the 'Socialist Party' ? For christ's sake man check your sources.
The Swastika was an ancient symbol; knowm by the northern american tribes as well as the romans and the buddhists. Hitler used it because he needed a recognisable symbol. And Secondly there WAS no 'Socialist Party'. The Socialist Party was expelled from the Reichstag by Hitlers NSDAP Party. There is only 1 S in that word; dumbass.
Later they found that the swastika could symbolize the two S's in Hitler's personal bodyguard: the SchutzStaffel (SS)
At 7/12/08 05:44 PM, CIX wrote:At 6/12/08 08:43 AM, CptxMorgan wrote: Hitler more or less just ran under the National Socialist Party, his beliefs weren't those of the parties more than they were solely his. Of course considering he used the Nazi party as his guise, they're now associated more with the Third Reich than anything else.Hitler was a full blown socialist. He was sent by the German government to investigate what the socialist party was about and ended up being the party leader.
At 6/12/08 09:34 AM, KingAdamTheGreat wrote: many think the swas sticker is bad too,but it is actually an ancient symbol for prosperity and wealthThe Hindu symbol is rotated to make the Nazi swastika because it is supposed to represent a double S of the Socialist party.
He was not. Hitler hated communists more tha anything else; even more than Jews. He deported and killed communists BEFORE he started killing Jews. He burned the German Parliament and blamed it on Communist rebels to have an excuse to attack them. He had Leftists eliminated and sent to camps. He eliminated the entire SA (Sturmabteilung) when they became to anti-capitalist.
(Hitler promoted anti-capitalism because of populistic reasons; as to gain more votes that is; but did not undertake any real actions against private property of the means of productions since he needed BIG benefits and exploitation of the people to fuel his army (and army costs))
You American should REALLY learn the meaning of the word 'Socialism'
At 6/12/08 05:29 AM, ForcedDj wrote: Old Nazi was a political party, until they changed into an army, became facists, and started WW2.
Nazi didn't change into an army..
You Dudes should réally study history better before you say such retarded stuff.
They did not 'became' fascists; that's just plain ignorant. They were and always had been a Fascist Party. The term fascist means ultra-nationalist (often racist), militarist and promoting a 'Third way' between left (state socialism) and right (capitalism). It's not like Fascist is a term for Naz General, which you seem to think.
At 6/12/08 05:25 AM, psycho-squirrel wrote: It was a political party. Then the Nazi's made an army and did horrible things that only evil men would do.
The Nazis were horrible people. When it was a party, just normal. But then the nazi army did things only seen in hell.
Shindler was a nazi, in the party, helped many jews and saved many.
So pre-nazi take over, it was just a party. Those in the nazi army that commited those crimes were evil. It was acts that any normal person would rather hang himself then commit them.
Nazis are not humans, they are garbage and demons. Sub humans.
Sigh. The Nazi leaders perhaps were, yes. But can YOU blame every single german father, brother and son who had to fight for his country when the country called him after years and years of brainwashing? Can you blame the poor peasants who's life wasgreatly improved by the nazi party; for which he decided to serve the army?
You can nót say every German soldier was a subhuman monster.
The Holocaust and WWII were culminations of processes that had been going on for hundreds of years.
At 6/21/08 04:43 PM, Cuppa-LettuceNog wrote:At 6/19/08 06:29 AM, waw460 wrote:You are referring to the crisis and Black thursday?Black Thursday? You mean that thing that was turned into the great depression because the GOVERNMENT STEPPED IN and raised Tarrifs to record levels? That Black Thursday? Or the Russian Socialist Black Thursday? Either way, thank you for supporting my argument.
And "The Crisis"... a pamphlet written by Thomas Pain? What?
The great depression wasn't started by the government. To the contrary; economists such as Keynes wanted MORE government intervention; to prevent such great depressions from ever occuring again. That's what we call neo-capitalism.
People!
Fascism and nazism implemented 'socialist' *cough cough* 'policies'. Wanna know why?
POPULISM. Saying what the people want to hear. Hitler sent communists and socialists to camps and prisons; he burned the Reichstag and blamed it on communist rebels. He used anti capitalist rhetoric; because he wanted the people to hate the capitalist Jew industrials. The SA; a nazi militia who was really anti-capitalist and who wanted direct action against capitalism; was exterminated in the 'Night Of Long Knives', ordered by Hitler himself.
The French have this saying: 'Les extrèmes se touchent'. Extreme currents have things in common.
But PLEASE realise that fascism is the ideological opposite of communism. State control IS NOT A SYNONYM for Socialism.
At 6/18/08 05:47 PM, Cuppa-LettuceNog wrote: Because socialism DOESN'T WORK. The government is largely innefficient, and completely unable to do things that the free market can do 50 times better.
You are referring to the crisis and Black thursday?
Greetings.
What I don't understand, as a European and as a Belgian, is why there are so much Americans who just won't stop bashing and hating socialism. 90% of those people doesn't even know what socialism stands for; so I don't mind some rednecks bashing socialism. What I do mind is that there áre so many people; 'normal' people, who share this hate.
1) When I say Socialism (=when a common West-European says socialism); I mostly mean modern european socialism/social-democracy. I am NOT referring to 'Socialism' as in 'People's Democratic Socialis Republic of North-Korea'. In other words; socialism is NOT communism.
2) You Americans should stop using the term 'Socialist' as an insult; especially when it's not fit. For example; a lot of Americans keep calling Obama a 'dirty Socialist'. People; Obama is NOT a socialist. A Socialist would not give speeches with sentences and words like 'God Bless America!' or 'Patriots (that being a compliment)'. What you call the 'political left' is far more right-oriented than socialdemocracy is europe.
3) Yes, I know nations under Mao or Stalin didn't do well. But please people; get over the stereotypes! Look at modern nations! The Scandinavian nations, Canada,...
The Scandinavian nations are pretty socialist. They are ALWAYS in the top 10 of the Human Development Index; therefore they can be called 'best nations in the world'.
I ask you to post replies with what your opinion is about socialism; why you hate it, or why you appreciate it.
I will extend this post later on; I'm on a tight schedual for the moment :p
Hypocrites!
'OMG OMG MOOOMMY!! THEY (might have but actually don't have at all) GOT WMD!! '
Hiroshima.
Nagasaki.
What an intelligent oratory of yours.
RE-TARD
Why invest billions in space exploration when it can be used to fight poverty?
That's the question.
Scientology is no religion.
It's a plain old ordinary sect.
They should illegalize it, it's ridiculous and if you want to become member of 'the church' you need to sign a form in which you distance yourself from your constitutional freedoms like free speech. Once your in it they will suck out ALL your money and brainwash you (stalin+hitler)² .
ILLEGALIZE IT NOW BEFORE IT BECOMES LIKE 'THE PARTY' IN ORWELL'S 1984
At 5/28/08 05:02 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: everyone knows communsim doesnt work!
How incredibly wise and intelligent of you.
O, great Dante, lighten us with your experience from your suburbian villa.
Please, brighten our minds with your spoilt intellect!
It does work. The problem is it was never applied correctly/by correct persons.
Read Animal Farm.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is God both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
The Dinosaurskeleton argument 'To test our faith' is what atheists try to prevent. The decline of common sense.
And to all the Theist out there; we Atheists are not people without any moral sense. We do not eat children, and we do not urinate on Bibles.
Although the Old Testament kinda deserves it. It contains more hateful scenes than the entire Qur'an
You are, almost, all wrong.
Communism DOES not use the state as a tool of opression; the true communism, being that of Marx and Engels, is in fact more anarchistic than anything else. After the revolution; there is no state and there are no classes.
Lenin changed this a bit to fit hís revolution; and Staling raped Communism; what he did can be called fascism. The same goes for Mao and the North-Korean guy.
You americans should read more than the government tells you; communism is not evil, it was only (mis)used by evil people. (In deformed worker's states).
True Socialism/Communism has néver been used correctly.
At 5/13/08 07:15 AM, Slizor wrote:And the effort to brand Nazis as right winger is both a historical distortion and a slander to TODAY'S right wingers.Hahahahaha! WolvenBear just wants to think that the right-wing has never done anything bad and that the left-wing is the embodiement of evil.
Man, that's pathetic.
It is indead pathetic.
Nazis were right wing. They had some 'left' elements; but they were all but socialist. They hated socialism and communism; they rejected class struggle. The state did NOT own the means of productions. Their policy was based on INEQUALITY.
I'll quote Mein Kampf:
'..., and so we must fight the marxist concept of 'All men are equal' and all the consequences of that concept. The ultimate consequence must be that the major traits of a person are his Blood and Race.'
'A world view of a democratic mass must be destroyed, marxism is the Jew's conspiracy to destroy the Aryan Race'
'Workers Unions are not needed, even criminal. They serve only the interests of the International Jews'
Nazis HATED socialism.
Ask ANY historian, Nazis were RIGHT wing. They were EXTREMELY conservative.
Gays? -With one letter less it spells GAS! Hurray! Nach Auschwitz!
Women? -Goebbels: The woman must be pretty en make children. The birds wife makes herself pretty for the male bird and lays his children. Women are tools to make babies.
Democracy? -Hitler: There cannot be decisions of the majority. ALL decisions must be made by one man and one man only. Democracy is the Jew way of holding the Germans under their thumbs.
Socialism is per definition struggle against oppression and tyrants. Nazis WANTED a tyrant.
Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer <-----> All people on the planet are one, No against imperialism, no to tyrants.
All the quotes I used are historically correct; I have all kinds of Nazi writings here. Many of my friends are historians and politicologists. NAZIS WERE RIGHT-WING; AND THAT IS NOT A SLANDER TO RIGHT WINGERS; SINCE I TRULY RESPECT LIBERALISM (--> I mean the european liberalism; which means a small state).
Socialism IS NOT Fascism and IS NOT Nazism.
For God's sake man. Socialists were prosecuted under fascism and nazism.
They favor corporatism instead of class struggle. THAT IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF SOCIALISM.
Sigh.
Why are so Americans so socialistophobic?
Nazism is per definition totalitarian and anti-democratic and racist; read Mein Kampf for example.
Communism ISNT. Many dictatorships USED communism to achieve their own goals; whilst raping the true socialist ideal: equality.
Read Animal Farm; by George Orwell. It describes perfectly how the Russian Revolution (which was in the beginning a just one; the tsarist regime was aweful) evolved into Stalinism.
At 6/10/07 10:20 PM, slackerzac wrote: Well when it come down to it most atheists are idiots who dont like god for some stubid reason.
This was posted by an idiot for a stupid reason.
Engage in intelligent conversation. This doesn't help either side of the religious field.
I'm an explicit atheist.
But I'm not bitching around to religious people; I respect the concept of religion, I understand it. And yes, I even envy it. You get my respect when you can devote yourself to something of which there is no proof. What I DO hate is religious extremism and/or (ab)using religion for evil things such as War or Terrorism. I do think that Church and State should be COMPLETELY separated. Presidential candidates who win elections because of their religious beliefs; that's not correct. That's called populism.
Opium of da peoplez :)
I hate you.
Get out of the 15th century please.
Even dissatisfaction knows fashions and hypes.
Why are all the media filled with reports about Tibet whilst no one utters a word about the cruelties commited by the Russian military in Chechnya?
When faced with the Palestinian question we see an internatial political immobilism as if Israel is untouchable, and we have to search hard to find news about the atrocities in eastern Congo, even though the crisis there is many times -as far as something like that is measurable- worse than the one in Tibet.
Why is Tibet 'in the picture' for months consecutively now? Of course, the Olympic Games are considered a cause, but two other explanations exist.
First there is the political oppurtunism whose goal is to damage a potential concurrent.
The dalai lama is received by Bush with much show, the Chechnya resistance members can't even enter our nations. Striking here is the complete random use of the word 'terrorist' and 'terrorist organisation': western propaganda states that Hamas, Hezbollah and PKK are a gang of bandits, whilst the Tibetan resistance consists, according to the same source, of holy independance fighters.
Second there is the possibility of identification: buddhism can count on a lot of important western sympathisers, even though Tibetan Buddhism isn't even real Buddhism. A feudal regime with a theocratic leader was never the intenion of the Buddha, prince Siddhartha Gautama.
The creepiest thing about China is the cynism which surpasses even our western capitalism and kolonialism: the population is moved around like invaluable pawns on a chessboard. To get the resources they need, the Chinese ignore every Human Right or ecology principal there is.
The West can only comment on this cynism out of our own experiences: our history is no reason for silence, in contrary; we should make sure no one remakes our past errors. And that's why we should speak about our own history as well as about the present problems in other worlds: progress, in the moral sense of the word, is only possible when one recognises history as a learning process.
Leave replies with your vision on the facts please.
Greetz
Internationality is the key to world peace and the happiness of all.
As Einstein said: a supranational organisation is what protects us from World War III.
It is pityful that a beautiful country like Italy, with such a rich history is ruled by a mobster.
Because that is what he is.
He owns almost everything he can.
One word: MAFIA
In the United States people have the right to bear arms. Combine the number of firearm-related injuries or Columbine-style events in the US to, for example, european countries.
I think you shall soon see the difference.