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At 11/29/14 03:32 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: No, you're missing the point. I wrote a comment stating that these two websites didn't serve the same purpose

I don't like to pick vet posts apart here but here's the thing:

Newgrounds is a flash animation website.

I understand you're on about "flash animation website" a la AlbinoBlackSheep, Ebaumsworld, and other sites floating around in the hay day 12 years back. But the point is that we were founded as a Flash animation website and we became popular not just because of the model of such but because it was "user driven." Hark back to the early 2000s, when Usenets, AOL chatrooms, YTMND, and Askjeeves were things - think, "what websites used a user driven content system... ?"

Heavenduff, that was my point. Our purpose was not exclusively animation, it was that we had a user driven content system that really helped Newgrounds take off. And it is in this site's history. YouTube stole this concept and this is why I relented to @andrewstelevisionNG that he shouldn't "sing it like it's his anthem," because it's so easy to get lost on why someone should not like a website. The point stands I SEE what you're saying but I am not going to really listen because my explanation should drive the point I am trying to make.

That's kind of a big difference, especially considering how YouTube is mostly about live action, at least when it comes to original material.

YouTube is not just mostly about live action. In fact, YouTube isn't really about anything at all beside the point I made.

If you remember the dark age of 2004/2005, you will remember that videos were indeed a thing. But sharing a video was easy - PLAYBACK was a bitch because there wasn't really any true video players besides Quicktime which was totally garbage. Flash was also an alternative to make videos, but due to the size constraints -- videos were often very low quality.

YouTube did this before NG even came up with the concept of embedded external Flash videos - which was the ease of sharing videos online and how YouTube became popular. These two websites function in the exact same regard, except that Newgrounds utilizes a quality standard type of system versus the "everyone can do it!" idea.

At 11/29/14 03:07 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Newgrounds is a flash animation website. That's kind of a big difference, especially considering how YouTube is mostly about live action, at least when it comes to original material. There is some animated material, but it's also not all flash animation content.

Uh. No. Newgrounds is a website that USES Flash Player, but it is not strictly a "Flash animation" website. It has not been since the audio portal was a thing over a decade ago. It also has a variety of different file formats that it takes compared to YouTube, making it a versatile internet medium for the artist and viewer. In addition to .swf we take:
mp4,mov,avi,m4v,ogg,ogv,wmv,mkv,webm,flv,3gp
(excluding image formats)

YouTube combines all elements of formats (though is strict on what constitutes as an upload) as long as it is in YouTube form, but you completely missed the point. It's about the AUTHOR of the work and the VIEWER secondary. Both websites function in this regard that it is user driven content. It is also broadcast to a wide audience, and that's exactly what both websites serve as a function for. Therefore they are similar websites -- same in many regards.

At 11/29/14 03:00 AM, Sekhem wrote: don't get me wrong, i understand the appeal of perfect playthroughs/guides/speedruns/some type of achievement, but the majority of this shit is just vanilla game footage and people talking over it

There's some pretty hilarious Let's Plays assuming you don't want to shell out the $5 to buy the garbage some of them play. For instance this guy Markiplier wasn't very interesting to me until I watched a couple of his Let's Plays, but he actually edits the footage and cuts out all the bullshit so you get the cream of the crop.

Unfortunately I don't think "let's plays" are the generation gap, it's just the style that the gamer demonstrates how stupid or ridiculous something is and they rely on their reaction to the stupidity. 95% of YouTube Let's Plays are low quality, mundane, and boring, and stupid.

At 11/29/14 03:02 AM, fmn335 wrote: Why did you fail me son? Do I need to send you back to military school?!

do I need to jam my cock so far down your throat you'll know what it feels like getting your penis tickled from the inside

At 11/29/14 02:05 AM, D-Nightmare wrote: I use a Samsung Galaxy tablet.
Anyone here have an Android device? Might wanna try what I did.

I'm sorry but we're stupid poor people that still use the power of prayer to make our shitty laptops from 2007 function as a potential entertainment device

At 11/29/14 02:56 AM, fmn335 wrote: Heres a thought, the world is a testicle. The other teste is Venus. What is the shaft?

the moon?

At 11/29/14 02:01 AM, MrApophis wrote: 2005~2006 had a lot of stolen content that didn't get rabidly taken down yet until google bought it out, but it was fun watching all those 240p vlogs, like geriatric, TAA, and bigal..

Haha, TJ was legitimately hilarious and awesome back in the day and the low quality videos only added to it, which really wasn't so bad

At 11/27/14 06:14 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I don't think the two websites serves the same functions...

Not true, the two websites function in that the artist/author broadcasts to an audience and can monetize so they basically serve the same modern function. they were much different in 2005/2006, but NG is more lenient on content control compared to YouGross

At 11/28/14 05:02 PM, NverseMpossiblpRadox wrote: Hell no, Egoraptor is a traitor, he's one of the 2 "game grumps" in case you don't know, he's doing EXACTLY what the original poster of this thread was complaining about, he tapes himself playing stupid games that other people created and his reactions to them. And he was the original reason I first went to newgrounds on December 31, 2003! DBZ in a nutshell, that's the first thing I ever saw on newgrounds.

very true point - in fact, if you look at my favorites I just recently re-added DBZ in a nutshell. That guy made the stupidest animation we had all witnessed yet it was hilarious for the time, god knows why. Now yes - pan it to what he's doing now, it's like he's a burnt out lazy ass that has drained his little fountain of creativity. So burnt out he's trending shitty Let's Play videos with hardly amusing commentary, boring video games, and depreciated video production.

I think it's because he's already made his living and he won't jump out of his comfort zone anymore to appease his fans or take his skills to the next level. That right there is not a good sign for any artist, so I hope the best for Egoraptor, but as far as the NG underground goes he is just not particularly welcomed anymore. Fuck Game Grumps, I can't believe he dropped being an animator to become a mediocre video artist.

At 11/29/14 01:49 AM, Cordyceps wrote: typical friday am i right

ew, put a bass on, you nick oliveri wannabe

At 11/20/14 02:41 PM, TomFulp wrote: evilzug goes back to the early days, he made this VIRAL SMASH:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/28805

Ah yes, the first time I ever started to feel jealous but at the same time totally entertained by River City Ransom sprites. That animation was greatness.

technically I got 3 turkeys for thanksgiving to eat, and Icebox Cake

At 11/28/14 10:08 PM, 24901miles wrote:

At 11/28/14 10:02 PM, sxycatwomanvampire21 wrote: hows this one

Has anyone ever told you that you look like an older Adriana Chechik?

I don't know, but I would do her.

sxycatwomanvampire21, you are a woman right? if not, there's always @Loki...

At 11/29/14 01:20 AM, Andrea364 wrote: Next thing you know, it'll be offering to post statuses for you before you decide to do anything, almost as a predication of your future. Hell, if that's true, maybe they can start predicting deaths. Then again, facebook still sometimes thinks dead people are alive.

Actually this is very true, not just the dead people part but also the whole "you didn't actually like this" thing. I've seen twelve things I never liked in my entire life. That really means someone or something makes it so you randomly like just about ANY sponsored page - and trust me I know because Twitter has similar setups to gaining followers. Money will speak the tongue of false sponsorship.

At 11/28/14 09:43 PM, AxTekk wrote: I don't expect you to know everything about British hiphop, I'd just expect you not to act like you do if you don't. Cause it makes you look dumb, man.

I have a very awkward feeling british hip hop is already at its pinnacle which, to be very fair, it probably is not a very high point. And I will go with my gut feeling that there is nothing particularly interesting about british hip hop, given that to me it's a roots thing. And this is a roots thing.

You think it makes me look dumb? Did you know hip hop and rapping didn't technically originate from America, but were influenced by Jamaicans in the Bronx? This and the culture surrounding street gangs of America make the music have soul, and gives it the embodiment of something real... while I'm sure there's something great hiding out there in England and Wales, my response to this thread was generally sarcastic a la InsectGadget.

But my point still stands, if you are from the UK and you are an avid fan of hip hop - you should trash the shit you are hearing from the indie labels there and give the U.S's stuff a shot. It's very similar logic to enjoying rock music, if you are listening to mostly American bands - you are just not hearing the right stuff.

At 11/28/14 10:07 PM, Makakaov wrote: hundereds

yes makakaov, hundereds

TomFulp never became a millionaire

I believe You're wrong.

2 + 2 = 5? why not?

At 11/28/14 06:38 PM, DjGubkafish wrote: You know how they made Facebook movie . The social network or whatever its called .

How come there is no Newgrounds movie about young humble developer on his way to be a millionaire .

There was a documentary being made for NG, but I don't know what happened - I think it met its goal and it just never came out.

TomFulp never became a millionaire, though he likely did make quite a bit of money with the rest of his broz. Something the pretentious Mark Zuckerberg could never hope to achieve in this lifetime, so he also helped come up with "people" that were his "friends" in that movie. The reality being that Mark Zuckerfuck is a total snob and asshole, and TomFulp could kick his ass in a TLC Hell in a Cell Money-In-The-Bank ladder match.

At 11/26/14 05:19 PM, andrewstelevisionNG wrote: Awesome for what? For those couple of animators who ran from NG? Yeah those ones. I guess they are cool, but it doesn't make youtube awesome, for 1. it has shitty site design as for NG, holy fek it's kewl.

First: You understand why we don't like the people that "ran from" NG, but don't sing that like it's your anthem because I doubt you really understand the nature and politic of the individual's decision to do so

Second: When YouTube was starting it was no different than NG. It was user-driven suggestions as a website, it had staunch limits (100 MB or 10 minute uploads max I think it was in 2005). But this was the only website on earth that would allow video uploads with the recognizable video player attached, so the code monkeys at YouTube did something right.

Now what is WRONG with YouTube is that it is corporate drivel, powered by Google with an insane amount of money being made from monetized videos + ads. This combination has either inspired or caused NG to follow suit with the reasoning that these ads are totally ok, but at least on NG you can get Supporter status and avoid this bullshit altogether.

However the thing that has and always will bother me about YouTube is that it will kick your legs out should you break any single rule. On NG, it's still 1998 - unless your account is deleted and your IP is a known problem to the staff, you won't get exposed to this shit of demographics/banned videos/deleted content/other shit Google doesn't care about. They want to probably assassinate any Let's Play YouTuber that doesn't generate 10000 views daily, they don't care about your video if it can't go viral/doesn't come with ads, and let's not forget that videos can only push like the age of 16 as the hard limit.

This garbage makes YouTube a nuisance and a problem, it's a serious shame it died well before NG. And the ironic thing? It's probably more widely used and much more popular in terms of e-media.

At 11/28/14 03:36 AM, Loki wrote: man this topic is so much better now that chronamut cant post 3 pictures every page!

also me as mia wallace lolol

@yurgenburgen, I think you have competition

At 11/28/14 08:38 PM, AxTekk wrote:
Someone hasn't heard of High Focus...

If I wanted to listen to people that rap in Mos Def's shadow, sure, I have heard of them. But when I want to listen to Mos Def, I listen to the guy that probably inspired most modern hip hop being replicated in Europe right now

PX9 is a user that was popular years ago, when drops in electronic music were just becoming cool. That being said, PX9 has far outlived their fame here, on a level of several top audio vets. Granted, their music is timeless (like the YouTube National Anthem), but PX9 will likely not return and any sign of a return may just be shortlived.

If you've noticed, the moment an artist gets noticed, they aspire and totally forget NG. PX9 is likely the same.

With that being said, I think it's also clear PX9 is also male because I vaguely remember their profile being ticked to Male years ago. It's a popularity thing to 'seem' female.

The UK has a lot more talented acts and many performance artists that do not colloquially clash with the roots of the genre that birthed it -- this being said, leave the *NSFW* hip hop and rap to the Americans, especially because British hip hop/rap has less passion than the electronic/rock music their country is pushing

At 11/28/14 11:05 AM, Andrea364 wrote: butt also apparently your restroom habits, according to OP.***

(*** designates that the quote was modified for humor)

Facebook is invasive enough to algorithmically cater to your interests as well, which is almost painful and annoying to deal with as far as social networking goes. but it does somehow know almost what you're doing and it's not much of a surprise

At 11/28/14 10:33 AM, SCTE3 wrote: Maybe the NG Chat will return soon as well.

Josh's programming patience decreased by 2! Josh's procrastination increased by 8!

At 11/28/14 08:59 AM, Andrea364 wrote: OP, are we sure we're not talking about instagram here too? Or for that matter, the majority of social media?

andrea364 I can tell you right now, anyone that matters at all in the world actually does not have an instagram

I can also tell you right now that Facebook is filled to the brim with shit that Subliminalvirus posted, which honestly is the worst thing ever. Nothing screams stupid like sharing those pictures

May I suggest something very small

At 11/28/14 09:01 AM, Andrea364 wrote:

At 11/28/14 09:01 AM, NippleManOfMilk wrote: R.I.P. Your name here

I don't know whether to fear for my life, feel offended, or break out popcorn.

All 3 at the same time. Haven't you ever watched Requiem for a Dream?

Akuma killed Santa a long ass time ago. That's why I no longer sport Santa, I only do it on dates with three 6's in there

At 11/28/14 10:10 AM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: My understanding is that it's a pretty humble public gesture from Putin, since priests kiss the hands of Popes and higher-ups in the church. He wipes his hand on his face afterwards.

I don't know, maybe the expression on Putin's face doesn't give this away

welcome back to the interweb, lom

At 11/27/14 04:24 AM, xXSp1cyN1njaXx wrote:

At 11/27/14 04:16 AM, Voltage wrote: all in favor of joining the group "Pony Throat Cutters," say I

why does this sound like a manhunt gang?

that's insane. do you see "Brony Throat Cutters?" absolutely not, have some respect.

At 11/27/14 04:18 AM, YellowisCOOL wrote: I saw an adult MLP fan in public once. He was kinda fat, was wearing a MLP t-shirt and he had a MLP backpack on

so basically he will never go anywhere in his life? nice