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Response to: down with balkenende Posted February 23rd, 2005 in Politics

sorry to say, but JP is a pretty good prime minister. and why are you opening a topic about it on NG??
I am not CDA voter but, as a person JP is extremely smart and competent man. he fits the job pretty good and he always knows what to say and how to say it. he changed my mind about things more then once and normally I am stuborn like a donkey(?).

once again I DO NOT VOTE CDA, but JP is a good PM, and we need a leader like him at this moment.
I know he looks ugly, but what the fuck do I care how he looks. al I care about is how he runs this country and he aint doing a bad job.

so if you have any argument about why he is a moron plz tell me and not just say: "balkenende is a moron"
underbuild your argument, otherwise STFU

Response to: US debt. Posted February 23rd, 2005 in Politics

At 2/23/05 09:02 AM, _Mary_ wrote:
At 2/23/05 05:45 AM, Tomsan wrote: pls tell me what you are going to do about it
What I'm going to do about it? How am I supposed to do something about that? Be realistic.

The most I could do is try to vote him out of office. I tried, but other people didn't, so I failed. Meh.

maybe PROTEST ??
or pay more tax voluntairily

US debt. Posted February 23rd, 2005 in Politics

Now almost exceeding

an amazing: $ 4.000.000.000.000

pls tell me what you are going to do about it

Response to: This is just fucking funny Posted February 23rd, 2005 in Politics

although I really hate bush and his way of acting, I still hope the US and europe will be able to cooperate. 'cause when America will fall into a huge economical crisis it will drag europe with it, and with this the damage will be a little less for europe (I hope). but america will fall anyway.

I mean your nation has a debt of 3.900.000.000.000 dollar hahahahawooooowiieee
well its not funny excually, jesus people PAY MORE TAX!!!!!!

Response to: religion Posted February 23rd, 2005 in Politics

ok VCV, I am not gonna debate you anymore, while you didnt understand my earlier arguments at all.. so youre 'comebacks' were not about the arguments. further more I see that you are, in my opinion, a strong believer and you people will never accept something so its useless to discuss

so my advice is: read a few anti god books, just to take a look start with: " des verelendung des christendoms" its german but I think there should be a translation. then maybe you can find some more books to read about faith. this book is a well known book and is not just a book that says the bible is a hoax (which it is)
my father wanted to be priest but then he red some books and also the one above and he resigned from his faith

Response to: If you could? Posted February 21st, 2005 in General

At 2/20/05 04:25 PM, TigerDemon wrote: If you were given the choice to become a vampire would you? I mean if you say no the vamp that offers just leaves and nothing bad happens.

Dude..........

......................... get fukcin real

Response to: drinking Posted February 21st, 2005 in Politics

At 2/20/05 07:15 PM, silencedintruder wrote:
I have been drinking since I was 13 or so, I just got back form the store and bought a 4 pack of 211 and Im not even 21 yet! Who cares what the laws say, I smoke cannabis, thats illeagal, Im under 21 and I drink, thats illeagal. Fuck the bullshit laws. We need laws like killing and stealing, not drinking. I dont listen to the law and I never will. Fuck the government.

Whoo you are soo cool, I so wanna be you right now! You are my god cause you are so cool

Response to: religion Posted February 21st, 2005 in Politics

At 2/19/05 06:07 PM, SkyCube wrote:
At 2/19/05 05:52 PM, Tomsan wrote:
Being absolutly convinced that there cannot possibly be a god makes you just as arrogant as those who are absolutly convinced that thier idea of god cannot possibly be wrong.

quite true only the difference is that religion is the source of almost every known war in this world and no good comes from it. further more I cannot understand what motivation people have to believe in god, I base my opinion on scientific "facts" and although I do not know how the universe became to excist, I think it is soooo easy to just say: It has been made by god..

BTW lets say there is a god, and he created this world, then I am stil not satisfied for the next burning question will be WHO created god??

so religion proves the unprovable: GOD DOES NOT EXCIST

further more there is scientific evidence that faith is heritable.

Response to: religion Posted February 19th, 2005 in Politics

At 2/19/05 05:05 PM, newbman wrote: LOOK, LISTEN AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND, RELIGION IS WHO YOU ARE, LIKE IT OR NOT, WE NEED A GOD TO SURVIVE, SOME ONE TO LOOK TO INSTRIFE,

Jip you took the words right out my mouth. And its the reason I think all believers in what religion what so ever are ingnorant and " I pitty you fools" like BA would say.
I am a strong opposer of faith and if I could I would bann it out with as much force as needed, faith holds everyone down.
so get over it that there is NO god and stop it with ethical issues

Response to: Drug Dealer Get what he deserves.. Posted February 14th, 2005 in General

At 2/14/05 04:09 AM, deurwaarder wrote: 30$ is indeed a big rippoff unless it's quality stuff.

come to europe and sell it here cuz u could get like 150Euro for it here and that woul be like 100000$ back in the states (shity dollar)

Gast waar heb je het over?? wiet in nederland is veel goedkoper en veel beter in kwaliteit dan in amerika

TRANSLATION:

dude what are u talkin about.?? pot is much cheeper in The Netherlands and has a far better quality then american stuff

Response to: Drug Dealer Get what he deserves.. Posted February 14th, 2005 in General

At 2/14/05 03:48 AM, Interwhat wrote: You don't measure pot in grams, fail.

I do!!

anyway, go live in the Netherlands you wont have any problems with drug dealers for you can buy it relatively cheap on every corner of the street.

Response to: The European Union Posted January 18th, 2005 in Politics

Industries GO to east european countries, because of cheap workers

Response to: The European Union Posted January 13th, 2005 in Politics

At 1/12/05 01:59 AM, Jimsween wrote: When you have free trade [no tarrifs (no taxes on imports)] the weaker industry will be wiped out.

Example, you can buy socks from the US for 3$ a pair, but you can import from China for 30 cents. Obvious choice, China. Evenutally, the US's sock industry will be wiped out, and China's will be the only one left.

Western Europes industries are very well developed, using the latest technology and most skilled workers, Eastern Europes industries are poorly developed, they have just gotten out of the Soviet Union and thier entire economy is fucked up.

ASSUMING that both countries will have a minimum wage, (I'm not sure, but doesn't the EU have something like that) the Eastern European countries will not be able to produce a cheap enough product that is of the same or greater quality as Western's. Normally, poor countries will put up tarrifs, or very high taxes, on the imports to make it too costly to buy, so the Eastern European citizens will buy the Eastern product instead of the western. But with Free Trade, they will buy the Western instead because its cheaper and of better quality, and slowly all the industries of Eastern Europe will die out, and the country will be milked of all it's money.

In contrast, trade between the US and China goes somewhat different. I don't think we have free trade, but there is somewhat of an unspoken agreement to keep tarrifs low. Now what happens is, since China has no minimum wage or workers rights, sweatshops form, and they are able to make the product for very cheap by paying the workers less. The reason it gets so immensly cheap is not because we have high tarrifs, but because instead of competing against American workers, they are competing against automated machines. So they have to make themselves cheaper than having a robot do it, which is very very difficult.

But I'm off on a tangent. Essentially, Eastern Europeans will buy Western European goods instead of Eastern European goods, and this will benefit the rich western European countries while hurting the poor Eastern European countries.

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I am not gonna make this story long 'cause you just really dont get it. And I know its sounds really lame, just saying you dont get it and not tellin you why.

BUT you're example with socks china vs US is a very bad example to enforce your opinion.. CHINA IS THEN COMPARABLE with the eastern euro countries and US with the western.

minimun wage is different in each country. people in eastern countries will work for far less money (lower livin standards) most products made in eastern countries are much more cheaper then products made by western ones.. eastern people cannot afford western products so they will keep on buyin the normal stuff

... I did write 2 much allready...

you just dont understand it jimmy, if you really want to understand it read the guidlines from the EU on the internet

good luck

Response to: The European Union Posted January 11th, 2005 in Politics

At 1/2/05 07:14 PM, Jimsween wrote: Okay, so they give them AID now, so in the long run they can monopolize industries and they will be forced to buy from them.

Yeah, globalization, whatever. Globalization isn't always good, globalization is why we have sweatshops.

Eastern European countries are joining because in the short term, it all sounds well and good, like a cellphone contract, when you join it sounds great, but you get screwed in the end. The leaders of the Eastern European countries probably know that, but ignore it because the countries still new to democracy are corrupt and the consequences will come after they are out of office.

These are the same arguments used for NAFTA and the FTA, it's just history repeating itself. But this time, Europe wants in on it.

I didnt read all your posts 'cause u write to much but I can see any argument WHY the rich countries would benefit from the poor countries on the long term.. when I go to for example greece (a poor country) u see roads everywhere payed by the EU (u see lates with that on it). in your quote u say we give them aid now but in the long run we(rich) will monopolize industries?? and then they(poor) must buy from us(rich)??? why is that then pls explain!! eastern farmers make much cheaper food and sell that for higher prices then they are used to in western countries western farmers are the ones hurt in this process.

so pls explain why we monopolize industries and also i dont understand ure cell phone example. I personally have no trouble with cell phone contracts, i always get whta i know i am gonna get. and again in this text you are not making an argument your just saying as it is a fact well its not east has alot of benefit and almost no negative effects

Response to: The European Union Posted January 2nd, 2005 in Politics

At 1/2/05 08:05 AM, Jimsween wrote:
Is there something I'm missing?

hehe yeah alot.. Really we rich wester european countries help out the poor eastern euro countries, thats the whole idea we stand together and hopefully we will all have an advantage from the 'alliance' over time

I am just curoius how u would see the EU as a way to rape the poor countries?? what did u think the EU tried to do then??

Response to: Fucking USA Posted November 17th, 2004 in Politics

Dude, I didnt see the bbc documentary but I do know that whatever they said in there was not definite truth. the so called new law does not excists and maybe they though about doing it or something and they told you that on bbc...

not everything said on tv is true discovery is wrong all the time..

But if u wan to believe it, go your gang

soo funny Posted November 16th, 2004 in General

So funny..

http://www.rathergood.com/moon_song/

Response to: Fucking USA Posted November 16th, 2004 in Politics

At 11/14/04 06:29 PM, MetalheadHellcat wrote: And Kin Jong Il is really fucked up anyway, you know he made a law that if you commit a crime in Korea, you, your kid, and their kids have to do time for it? How fucked up is that?

Hmm really NOT true!! get your facts right

At 11/15/04 08:14 PM, IceWraith15 wrote:
THANK YOU, finally a bit of rationality and good reason. People on both sides of the 'U.S is bad' issue are screwed up, the truth is, America is a good country, not the greatest to ever exist, but a good country. Not every American is this rich, powerful, aristocratic stereotype that people imagine, most Americans are the middle class. And yes, for those who are curious, I AM AMERICAN. This probably won't get many responses, because most people in this thread refuse to seek reason. While there are extremist blind pro-U.S people, those who say that 'those who don't hate America are blind and dillusional' are just as blind and dillusional as the extremist patriots.

Yep I agree, BUT I personally do think that America is becommming a "bad" country or atleast not as good as it was before. I think the fact that the world starts to hate America so much should not be ignored, by americans. Also I do think conceirning the forgeign policy America is fucked up, in that way America is a " bad" country but thats just my humble opinion

Response to: Favorite president? Posted November 12th, 2004 in Politics

I dont know ure history as good as you do, but I would say pres. kennedey. he fought for the poor and minority groups. then my personal favourite has gotta be clinton, he was fun...

and ps the topis starter sucks dick.. he should be banned from being a moderator HOMO

Response to: Official Election 2004 Topic Posted November 10th, 2004 in Politics

PS.

The company that produces our electonic voting devices (electronical voting machines are used in the netherlands for quite some years) told the american officials that the devices they were using were flaud. They were very fraud sensitive

BLAH

Response to: Official Election 2004 Topic Posted November 10th, 2004 in Politics

because I wasnt allowed to put this in a own thread ill place it here.. NAZI'S

Just wanted to say: Jesus why the hell did you vote for that idiot again????
He is such a failure in leadership, I think this says alot about america and the people that live in it. someone said to me earlier that the world should have a vote to in choosing the american president. I did not agree, but it would have changed the outcome sooooooooo much I think 95% of non american people would have choosen Kerry instead of bush..
what was funny to was that kerry had all the "cilvilized" states the ones at the coasts. and all the hillbilly redneck farmer states went to bush, so I guess americans biggest problem is the enormeous group of uneducated loose on the trigger farm boys and girls..

And the whole system of choosing a president in america sucks so bad I never knew that. Someone can actually win without the majority of the votes!!! well that sounds idiotic to me...
and also the fact that somone who want to run for president must have an idiotic amount of money to compete with the placed president.. that is no democracy.. whatever makes you all happy

How the fuck can one country spend soooo much money on the war machine I mean i understand America wants to keep his number one position in army strenght, but there are limits. How can you people put up with those taxes all being spend on the army. I once red that when america would spend half the amount of money on defense as it does now, it would still be the most financed army in the world. so begin spending money on your health care and EDUCATION for a change.. But no the americans think its very important to have a strong army. It good for the nations moral and good for there position in the world.
well guess what idiots.. the whole world is starting to hate you all you attitude your decisions. a friend of mine lives in student flat and we heared some chinese people talking about how they hate americans and that there nations should attack america now when they are occupied in irak.. I know they were fantasizing, but let us just think that such a boy (wich was by the way studiying politics) gets a very high position in china, in 10 years they are pretty strong and there army is soo much bigger then yours, such a boy that is allready expressing hate against you cant do you any good later in live. I think (and thats just a hypothese) America will loose its number one position in about 20 years I think nations will not longer tolerate american arrogance and will work together to,for example,Boycot america.. and all I have to say then, if it happens, you had it all coming!

ever lasting comment on america Posted November 8th, 2004 in Politics

Just wanted to say: Jesus why the hell did you vote for that idiot again????
He is such a failure in leadership, I think this says alot about america and the people that live in it. someone said to me earlier that the world should have a vote to in choosing the american president. I did not agree, but it would have changed the outcome sooooooooo much I think 95% of non american people would have choosen Kerry instead of bush..
what was funny to was that kerry had all the "cilvilized" states the ones at the coasts. and all the hillbilly redneck farmer states went to bush, so I guess americans biggest problem is the enormeous group of uneducated loose on the trigger farm boys and girls..

And the whole system of choosing a president in america sucks so bad I never knew that. Someone can actually win without the majority of the votes!!! well that sounds idiotic to me...
and also the fact that somone who want to run for president must have an idiotic amount of money to compete with the placed president.. that is no democracy.. whatever makes you all happy

How the fuck can one country spend soooo much money on the war machine I mean i understand America wants to keep his number one position in army strenght, but there are limits. How can you people put up with those taxes all being spend on the army. I once red that when america would spend half the amount of money on defense as it does now, it would still be the most financed army in the world. so begin spending money on your health care and EDUCATION for a change.. But no the americans think its very important to have a strong army. It good for the nations moral and good for there position in the world.
well guess what idiots.. the whole world is starting to hate you all you attitude your decisions. a friend of mine lives in student flat and we heared some chinese people talking about how they hate americans and that there nations should attack america now when they are occupied in irak.. I know they were fantasizing, but let us just think that such a boy (wich was by the way studiying politics) gets a very high position in china, in 10 years they are pretty strong and there army is soo much bigger then yours, such a boy that is allready expressing hate against you cant do you any good later in live. I think (and thats just a hypothese) America will loose its number one position in about 20 years I think nations will not longer tolerate american arrogance and will work together to,for example,Boycot america.. and all I have to say then, if it happens, you had it all coming!

Response to: Guns don't kill people, people do? Posted October 18th, 2004 in Politics

At 10/17/04 09:13 PM, MisanthropicFUNK wrote:
At 10/17/04 07:34 AM, Tomsan wrote:
Do you know the rules of comparibility? you cannot compare an egg with bread .
first of all, using cars is legal, walkin around with guns
Right to bear arms, genius. Read the Constitution much?

Ok when u say so, I am not an american I didnt know walkin around with guns in the city was legal but if u say so.. i am still not sure though


and shootin people with them is not.
Tell that to the cops. They shoot people all the time, and they don't go to jail for it.

I am not talkin about cops. Are u dumb or something? What I said is: shooting people is not legal. well U dont agree?? cops can shoot people if shot upon or any other extreme situation, you cannot kill someone legally.

second, if U take measurement against cars like dont drive in it, your economie will seriously fall to pieces, as for guns you will probably dont even notice,
Take all the guns from the cops. Not some of them, like in Britain, but ALL OF THEM. Tell me how long you think it'll take criminals to figure out they can do whatever they want, because their weapons are just as good as the cops, and they have an even chance. Welcome to the Middle Ages, Part Deux.

again why are u talking about cops moron? I am tellin ure economie will not fail if u ban the selling of guns to regular people and you go on tellin a story about what happens when u take guns of the police?? ARE U A FUCKIN IDIOT?? you are talkin about different stuff.


third, there are alot of cars on the road every day in whole america driving alot of miles and because of that accident rates rises, there are not so many constantly using a gun or even walking with them on the streets
Don't know many cops or rednecks, do you? Cops carry guns all the time, but they rarely kill people with them (although they have in the past, and will in the future, but only for self defense .... supposedly). I personally know a guy who carries a gun everywhere he goes, because he'd rather not leave it at home where he doesn't know who's going to find it (ie, his children, or a burglar). He's never shot anyone either.

lol thats funny, U just said cops killed people all the time!! hmm I am really starting to think u're an 11 year old. And again those stupid cops, boy shut up, you cannot count cops under the regular people were I am talking about. stop it with cop thinggy. and about youre example.. well good for him he carries his gun everywere he goes, and he didnt shot anyone YET!! what are u trying to suggest with that.


U simpley cannot compare the two factors because they are so different
Yes, yes you can. You can compare any two things you want to, provided you're not a total retard.

excually I dont want to react on this because its to dumb for words. You think u can compare everything, in a certain context? well keep on thinking that 10 year old (hmm maybe 9)


how many cars are there in the US? and how many guns (army not included) ?? there are far more cars then guns, so again u see that u cannot comapare it.
Yes, yes we can. You saying we can't count military arms is like us saying you can't count cars that are used by the government, or cars used in commuting or other forms of commerce. Your stipulations don't change the truth, it only colors and distorts it.

jesus fuck man, think before u respond!! u will never have anythin g to do with a millitary gun, america probably has alot of military guns but they dont enter society (and dont give me that crapp about u know someone that has a millitary gun etc, probably some do) al of the goverments cars u used as example will enter society. they ride on the same roads, also killin people when being in an accident. do u agree with me now? its common sence.


if a big car accident occurs, there can be more people that die in one accident, so one inresponsible person kills like 5 people in one accident, while you cannot look at gun murder in this perspective, even when one person shoots 5 people. they are 5 different murders.
I take it you've never been charged with vehicular homicide. YOU GET CHARGED WITH A COUNT OF MURDER FOR EVERY PERSON YOUR NEGLIGENCE KILLS. Don't drive drunk, kids.

well I dint put my words right here, but what i was trying to say is that by the rules of comparement, u should see 5 deaths in one accident as one occurance(not sure how to say it in english). every murder with a gun is also one occurence. so that means u must divide the number of 'car-accident related deaths' by a certain number. then u can compare the two numbers, but this is very disscusable(?). so u dint completely go my point there but i dont blame 9 year olds for that it was not so well said


on 4 car accident 3 people are being killed with a gun I think this numbers are amazing and show how ignorant people like U are that they say: " you see guns aint that bad, cars kill alot more people"
*looks for point*

*keeps looking*
C'mon, it's gotta be in here somewhere.....

get a life man go teach grammer, or try to write dutch.

Response to: Guns don't kill people, people do? Posted October 17th, 2004 in Politics

At 10/16/04 07:20 PM, EvilGovernmentAgents wrote:
At 10/16/04 06:49 PM, Tomsan wrote: Its so not comparble!
Why?

like U self said carACCIDENTS, against MURDER. I can give U a whole story but it seems very clear to me why this is SO not comaparible.
And the fact that negligence plays a big part in both has nothing to do with the matter at hand?
What's the biggest argument against gun ownership? People die.
That's not a truly working reason. You're going to have to try harder than that.

:: LIKE MAUS SAID, PEOPLE HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO BE RESPONSIBLE, JUST LIKE WITH CARS.

Do you know the rules of comparibility? you cannot compare an egg with bread .
first of all, using cars is legal, walkin around with guns and shootin people with them is not.
second, if U take measurement against cars like dont drive in it, your economie will seriously fall to pieces, as for guns you will probably dont even notice,
third, there are alot of cars on the road every day in whole america driving alot of miles and because of that accident rates rises, there are not so many constantly using a gun or even walking with them on the streets
U simpley cannot compare the two factors because they are so different
how many cars are there in the US? and how many guns (army not included) ?? there are far more cars then guns, so again u see that u cannot comapare it.
if a big car accident occurs, there can be more people that die in one accident, so one inresponsible person kills like 5 people in one accident, while you cannot look at gun murder in this perspective, even when one person shoots 5 people. they are 5 different murders.

on 4 car accident 3 people are being killed with a gun I think this numbers are amazing and show how ignorant people like U are that they say: " you see guns aint that bad, cars kill alot more people"

really u're ignorant and I am not gonna spend any more time on U

sooo different!! Posted October 16th, 2004 in Politics

I dont completely get it. In america you can choose between 2 parties (maybe you have a third party but thats not a serious party is it?) the democrates(liberals) and the republicans. but they are soo very different in alot of things, they agree with alot, but disagree with even more. how can there be floaters, isn't a vote from a person so clear. I dont even see the reason of debates, it doesnt matter how much bush fucks up or kerry rules, ' cause there program is so totally different.
you agree with one of the two and thats were you're vote is basedf on isnt it???
I think its so funny that the 2 are so close, is america so divided??

how can u sweep a voter from one side to another, like sayin :

bush likes candy I like it too, but kerry says candy is bad for you and i should eat potatoes, but |I dont like potatoes, but some people say kerry is an OK dude so I think i will eat potatoes from now on.

the land I live in has a strange system too, but I do understand there are floaters. we have like 15 big parties, all gettin alot of votes (talkin about a divided country). there are mostly 2 big parties, one of wich is right, and the other left. but you have extreme left and right parties and middle all gettin votes. The goverment has 151 seats available, so for every like 100.000 votes a partie gets one seat. but it never happens that one party gets the neccesary 76 seats to rule alone. thats why there always have to be coalitions.... what am I talkin about this has nothing to do with the topic, just pls tell me why there are floaters in The US of A and why people change their mind

Response to: Guns don't kill people, people do? Posted October 16th, 2004 in Politics

At 10/16/04 06:40 PM, Proteas wrote:
At 10/16/04 05:02 PM, CountPoopoo wrote:
At 10/16/04 04:39 PM, EvilGovernmentAgents wrote: And how many people die because of car accidents each year? How many from viruses?
Seriously guys, lets keep this forum serious on a certain level.
O.k. Sure. And to answer EGA's question;

U.S.A. Statistics, Year 2000
People killed in Auto Accidents:-----------------41,000 (roughly)
People killed in firearm related incidents:----27,000 (roughly)

A quick bit of math, and this turns out to be around 3 people dead on U.S. Highways for every 2 people killed in gun related deaths. Yet we shall never see a major U.S. senator callling for a 10 year ban on S.U.V.'s or turbo charged street cars...

Its so not comparble!
like U self said carACCIDENTS, against MURDER. I can give U a whole story but it seems very clear to me why this is SO not comaparible.

PS(again) in The Netherlands big cars with a high " accident followed by death" rate (thats is when they hit some else, person mostly or car) are being banned from high population areas, it is not yet written in the law but changes are being made, in other areas they tax the big jeeps very high

Response to: Guns don't kill people, people do? Posted October 16th, 2004 in Politics

At 10/16/04 05:02 PM, CountPoopoo wrote:
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Oh god HAHAH. BEST REBUTTAL EVER!!!!!! HAHAHAHA VIRUSES! AHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH AHHAHAH. whew...

Seriously guys, lets keep this forum serious on a certain level.

lol You are indeed keeping it very serious.

I think its crazy its so easy to buy guns in the US. I mean I think it should be illegal for all. I mean why do people even buy guns, to hunt? ok if so, is it neccesarry to be able to buy fully automatic war machines, or just a hand gun, who hunt with a handgun? who hunts with grenades?

I think its bullshit to be able to buy guns, but I understand you cannot ban it from america, but u can make the guns less lethal. or make an selection of not very lethal guns, or only big guns(rifles?) so you cant carry one easily in your pocket. I think U thought about this also.

Why arent you protesting against the "guns are very easy to get" policy? america has the highest killed by gun rate by far. far more then any other country, and even though this has not only to do with the gun buy policy, it would definetely work if guns are banned.

PS In The Netherlands and alot of other european countries, guns are illegal for all.

Response to: God Damn America Posted October 14th, 2004 in Politics

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You obviously, know nothing about American history, seeing that you've never even been to the United States, read a real history book on the U.S., or researched your facts.
Yet, you make claims about America's history that are incorrect.

I have been to America 2 times, I met alot of nice friendly people. I did do some research about american history, for some school project. my father gives studied history on the university and he told me alot about american history.
My claims arnt inccorect, they are maybe doubtable. What claims are u actually talkin about? all my claims? sounds very subjective to me. The claim that my claims are incorrect is incorrect.

I don't ever lecture you about your nation's history, without first knowing it.

I only talk about forgeign history so it consernse ME, WW2 was partually in my country, all of the older people in the netherlands have known the war. What I am saying has really NOTHING to do with your nations history I didnt talk about ure civil war so again U arnt making any point here

You live in Amsterdam, the Netherlands.

Since, when does a Dutch European know anything about the U.S. besides from what they hear from their Media or what their opinion is, which is known to criticise the U.S.

I do agree I get alot of my info by the media, dutch media but also english and american media, whats wrong with that, is there another way to form an opinion by the PRESENT world politics without the media??? hmm.... NO.....


You don't know, what you're trying to suggest. Since you've only experienced one point of view: The view of a foreigner, as you've never heard the other point of view: The country you're criticising.

uh YES I did hear the other point of view, what the hell are u saying that the media is only givin me a point of view of a forgeigner?? hmm sounds very odd and not correct. I hear americans justifying all their actions all the time so I really dont agree with u here

This proves, that your opinion is most likely, just more of this
European anti-American criticism garbage.

delete the word garbage, and I agree


Your thread is titled: "God Damn America"

Here's what I have to say: God Damn The Netherlands!
For a country that allows prostitution, some if not all of the people over there, can't spell worth shit in English.

well u do legalize prostitution to, just saw a documentary about it, the bunny ranch or something. but this is a whole other topic, I dont see whats wrong with legalizing it. I agree with it



If I were to make a thread about The Netherlands and how much of a joke you Europeans are, then it's likely that you'd be insulted. So shut up!

probably I would be insulted a bit, but I wouldnt take it too personall, but U are allowed to comment on my country although they are not alot of a big nation so there wont be much to comment about


You're basicly, whining about America and it's people, which you don't even know. Complaining isn't going to do you any good.

again just expressing my opinion, what are you saying??

P.S. I dare you to respond. It'll be quite entertaining.

well here u go :)

Response to: God Damn America Posted October 14th, 2004 in Politics

At 10/13/04 08:37 PM, FAB0L0US wrote: Hahah fuck you Stresskillingme. Im not sitting here insulting Canada or the Netherlands. I expect the same respect given to my country as I give to everyon else's country. I dont see why any American think it is ok for people like you and the topic poster to talk shit about our country. You wanna get in rational discussio0nout the problems you see America creating in the world dont name the motherfuckin topic GOD DAMN AMERICA.

Fuck you stress. And fuck the topic poster. Dont shit all over me, I wont shit on you. Make your topic GOD DAMN AMERICA I will fuckin insult you all I want. Its amazing how anyone thinks this personal attack bullshit is ok. But if someone wants to pick a fight, Im not gonna back down and lick his ass out of the "courtesy" I am supposed to have as an American citizen. Like it or not, nationalism still runs deep in a lot of people.

Still love how the Europeans and even Canadians think it ok to start talking shit and when I talk back, I am called a bad example of an American. Lemme ask you stress, if I made a post saying GOD DAMN CANADA and I said "I hate Canada but they are not all bad people" and continued on my rant about Canada, how would you like it? And your Canada, you dont get this kind of shit alot. At least once a week, there is some foreigner talking smack about America. Can really get me going.

hmm.. I agree my topic title wasnt apporpiate, when I started this threat, I was a bit pissed about something I saw in the television, so U' re right (i hope people do understand it is a parody on god bless america which resides on the 'fact' america is patriotic.)

it also sounds logic to me you are insulted when i am saying, that I dont hate all americans but then go rage about america, again I apologize but its not that I " hate" all persons in the US seperately, but I hate the forgein politics, and I also dislike the total american attitude.. by that I mean, although the the decisions(?) are made not by the people but the goverment, alot of the people do seem to suppert the goverment.

another thing in my country we have a saying: " hoge bomen vangen veel wind" littertually translated: " high trees, catch alot of wind"
U live in the most powerfull nation of the world with a goverment I think is screwing up, this is a politics forum were u can express u're opinion, thats all I am doing. I do agree I was a bit to aggresive in my starting threat but u are taking it all to personall

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At 10/13/04 06:14 PM, Alpha6 wrote:
At 10/13/04 02:13 PM, Tomsan wrote:
And you obviously can't hide your stupidity, by saying "sorry if my spelling is bad, but I don't use English as a first language"

well before I start herminator said the most already about all your comment.
I think its funny U are dissing my english while U probably can only talk write english. I dont mind this while ure basic schooling doesnt include any other language. I however MUST learn english french and german besides dutch on school from the age of 12 till 17. If u do speak another language can u also write it?


Well tough shit! If you can't spell, or don't learn how to spell before posting, or type for that matter, then you're stupid! If you don't know the language then don't post until you do!
It's common sense.

see up. who ever said u may not post on this forum when u dont write perfectually english????


You have proven time, and time again, that you are indeed being stupid, with your positively horrible spelling, practicly nonexistant punctuation, not typing out words in full, generalizing, stating your opinions- as if they were fact.

ok point taken now I cannot speak and write as good as english as you. I AGREE but dont be a bitch and read/get over it.

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Response to: God Damn America Posted October 13th, 2004 in Politics

At 10/13/04 12:09 PM, Frozen_Fox wrote:
At 10/12/04 07:35 PM, snail_262001 wrote:

Really I think that anyone who goes around saying that Bush is an idiot for going to war with Iraq needs to shut up he as doing what he believed was best for his country. Ok he was wrong about the WMD's but everyone makes mistakes.

excuse me? I hope u're not serious. He was wrong but everybody makes mistakes? some mistake he made then. goddamn this makes me mad, people justifying a war because it just was a stupid "little" mistake everyone makes.
u know I think america should stop trying to find osama, man it was just a mistake he made, some american slut dissed him so he was mad about it and just dropped some plains on manhattan, he is sorry about it now I think, man let him be.. he made a mistake.

THEY ENGAGED WAR BECAUSE THEY WERE CONVINCED THAT SADDAM HAD WoMD, so if he didnt make that tiny mistake he would go to war..

really u should think about killing ure self

and about what u said Tiger Demon

U cant justifie ameircan stupidity, by saying "we saved youre ass in WW2"