I guess the point is to confront the essay more so than the topic. Difficult, but I'll try.
At 2/15/07 02:32 PM, Dre-Man wrote:
Abortion is a very common practice utilized by thousands of women every year. ... some are very radical "pro-choice", and "pro-life" extremists. Pro-choice extremists believe ... . Pro-life extremists believe .... Both of these sides can be somewhat flawed and very unpresentable in their arguments and opinions.
Referring to adherents to a position as extremists isn't quite fair, and starts you off with functionally an ad hominim attack. I think extremists on either side are those who start to take extra-legal means to attempt to make their position happen, such as those who bomb clinics or attack protesters.
The entirety of the first paragraph would lead a reader to believe the essay is an equal treatment of the issue, however, the remainder of the essay clearly attacks the pro-choice position while providing little criticism of the pro-life side.
Many pro-abortion extremists often turn to the topic of rape in defense of abortion. ... Facts tell us that most women who are raped usually do not have or even want abortions, and that if they do they usually regret it for the rest of their lives. ... We also know that less than 1% of abortions in the U.S. are the result of sexual assault or incest.
Again the charachterization of extermism should be avoided, especially on the rape issue. Rape in the discussion usually holds one of two roles. First, it is used to illustrate that not all abortions will stem from irresponsible sexual practices (one of your later points). Second, rape and incest is often a moderate compromise position for abortions.
Your sources also fail to support your argument. The second cited source highlights the stories of 20 women who regret their post-assault abortion. This does not show that most regret the choice. Given the first cited source indicates 13-15k rape abortions occur each year, 20 fails to prove this claim. Further, even if this number is only 1%, the underlying 15k abortions are a significant number of individuals impacted by any policy, hence rape and incest being the common moderate compromise for many people.
Even if this were not so, should the child have to pay for the crimes of his or her father? ...That is a question that every impregnated rape victim should ask herself before making the decision to have an abortion, and it is also a question that every pro-abortion extremist should ask him or herself before using the topic of rape in an abortion related argument.
This paragraph places you firmly into the pro-life camp, with the charachterization of the concieved fetus as a child and pro-choice as pro-abortion. You've clearly lost any objectivity here. During the first 20 weeks there is a 15% chance of a natural miscarriage. I'll address this issue more below. Some women will answer this question as a no, others will see the pregnancy and its negative effects a continuation of the assault on her body. For a pro-chice advocate, the issue is whether a woman elected to take on the duty of carrying a child. Also remember a rapist in prison has no ability to provide support and in some states a rapist hold parental rights of visitation or custody.
Many ... can not seem to understand is that it is the child's body that is being tampered with, not the woman's....
The woman's body is being used in thesymbotic relationship of pregnancy-- which carries its own risks to the woman's health. The severity of the procedure is unnecessary hyperbole when we know the end result of the procedure. Ultimately, you have a conflict of interests at play- not a one sided set of demands.
... Are we not often told what to or not to do with our bodies almost everyday?
Now you hit on the general libertarian principles. Philosophically, without supporting abortion, many argue the government should not regulate anything we do to ourselves. Government control over the self is a much larger debate. As an arguement on this topic its use is either logically flawed (one wrong justifies another) or its a tacit agreement that the state has and should have authority to regulate personal choice (when its not an issue of settling competing rights claims).
Many times the argument boils down to whether or not a fetus is a living being. ... It may not be able to live on its own outside of the womb, but newborn babies can not do this either. If you leave a two year old child in the wilderness alone he or she will not be able to survive without proper care from a parent of some sort.
Its hard to not have this be part of the discussion. If it is a living being, its entitled to make rights claims, if not, there is no harm to ending the embryonic life. If its not living, why do pro-choice adovocates want to save it? Defining life is really hard, but its at the heart of the matter. It's not foolish to make this part of the discussion. The newborn is a flawed anaology. Survival out of the womb means the womb is not essential to support life. A fetus requires the symbotic relationship of the womb, an infant can be cared for by anyone.
Yet another reason abortion should not be a legal practice is simply because most cases of abortions are the result of irresponsible sex and fornication. Why should a woman be allowed to practice debauchery without consequences? ... If a mother that conceives is not capable of raising a child, this is still not a legitimate excuse for having an abortion. This is because adoption, orphanages, and foster homes are frequently available in great numbers for utilization by any woman at any time.
This is now the correlary to the rape argument-- consequeces of free choice-- the choice opportunity was when you had sex not terminate the pregnancy. Your lanugage shows a clear slant- fornication and debauchery imply that sexual relations are fundamentally immoral and deserving of sanction. Incapability is a real concern-- both pre- and post-natally. Minoity and disabled children have significant difficulty in finding stable or permenant homes. Poor mothersoften lack health care and nutrition necessary for healthy development. With a possibly 1.3mil unwanted children per year (source 1) the adoption/foster system would be in tatters.
Banning abortion might actually stop or at least slow the horrible overflow of debauchery that modern day society sees as acceptable. The rapid spread of sexually transmitted diseases in the U.S. would probably significantly decline as well. ...
Again, moralizing not related to the abortion question. I won't engage in a seperate rant on unsupported speculation.
This raises the question, why should a woman even want an abortion in the first place if she can simply hand her child over to the care of another parent?
Because preganancy carries its own health risks, damage to career or education, and, as your prior paragraphs show, condemnation for irresponsible sexual activity. (Source 1 - accounting for 4, 4 and .5% of abortions currently, plus more depending on the interpretation of reasons given).
... Everything seems to point against abortion. It is not only a wrongful practice, but also a poor resolution to the situation of an unwanted pregnancy.
As this is a conclusion to the above arguments, it needs no additional response. It clearly, however, strays far away from the balance implied in the opening paragraph. The essay as a whole, however, fails to show "everything" points against. At best it shows there are views holding it to be wrong.