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At 3/20/11 06:19 PM, AniMetal wrote:

At 3/20/11 11:38 AM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: Damn, it almost sounds like a requirement to hate every mainstream band here. I like Dimmu Borgir, Cradle of Filth, Pantera and Metallica, problem? And I even like some Nightwish and Job for a Cowboy. I love Lamb of God and Machine Head. Now, what are you going to do?

Mainstream doesn't necessarily mean shit.

DB and COF is just trendie "LOL SYMPHONIC LOL GOTHIC DEATH METALZ"

Dimmu Borgir has nothing to do with gothic metal in my opinion. Yeah it's Symphonic Black Metal, early Dimmu Borgir is really good in my opinion, I still like some of their latest stuff, but that's me.

Cradle of Filth I think they can be labeled gothic metal or something. The only albums I really like are The Principle of Evil Made Flesh and Midian.

Lamb OF God is basically borderline metalcore, people just call them groove metal to feel better than themselves.

That's one opinion, but core or no I like them.

Pantera's 80's stuff along with cowboys from hell is great, but vulgar display onwards is shit.

Meh, I like Vulgar Display of Power and Cowboys From Hell.

Machine Head's first two albums are kickass and their latest album is pretty good too, just avoid everything in between.

I like the first album. The second one I like it but not as the first one, and I really like the last one and some track on Through the Ashes of Empires.

metallica's first four albums are awesome.

I like the first 5 and Death Magnetic. Load and Reload are not thrash but trash, there are only some tracks I enjoy as an Hard Rock fan too. St. Anger is fucking painfull, Frantic is ridiculous, but I like the titletrack and The Unnamed Feeling anyway. Also, St. Anger was the first album from Metallica that I've ever listened to, I took it from my brothers CD's and I loved it, but when I got into more Metallica stuff, a lot of time later, I realised the shit I was listening to. My brother loves it, he says the drums are unique because of that trash can effect, well he has the right to like it.

At 3/20/11 04:16 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 3/20/11 11:38 AM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: Damn, it almost sounds like a requirement to hate every mainstream band here. I like Dimmu Borgir, Cradle of Filth, Pantera and Metallica, problem? And I even like some Nightwish and Job for a Cowboy. I love Lamb of God and Machine Head. Now, what are you going to do?

Dude! We don't hate on mainstream bands. It just happens to annoy us more when popular bands suck. When an underground band sucks, it just fades away, because they don't have a big fanbase whatsoever and their music will be lost in the abyss of bad music forever. But all the bands you've listed, especially the 4 first. Look at their discographies...

Metallica - 9 LP
Pantera - 9 LP
CoF - 10 LP
Dimmu Borgir - 9 LP

For me, between those bands, Metallica is the only mainstream band. Maybe you'll see CoF, Pantera or Dimmu Borgir in your MTV but in Portuguese MTV, I'm very lucky to watch them talking about Metallica.

And the two last bands you listed... Lamb Of God, they are trying too hard to be heavy, rad and brutal, plus they are a Groove Metal band, which means it's crap. And Job For A Cowboy, no matter if they are a Death Metal band or not, are still generic as fuck.

I'm not a big fan of JFAC, but in my opinion they're pretty listenable. And Lamb Of God, well it's a question of taste, I like them mostly because of the drumming, and the tasty groovy riffs that make me want to do the "windmill" with my hair. And I can see why you hate them, they're all like "Motherfucking fucking fuck fucks fuckers", but that don't really bother me. I had and will have a lot of great times listening to them, Ashes of The Wake is so goddamn tasty.

At 3/20/11 11:56 AM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 3/20/11 11:38 AM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: Damn, it almost sounds like a requirement to hate every mainstream band here. I like Dimmu Borgir, Cradle of Filth, Pantera and Metallica, problem? And I even like some Nightwish and Job for a Cowboy. I love Lamb of God and Machine Head. Now, what are you going to do?

There's always the metalcore club.

The only metalcore band I mentioned was Job for a Cowboy and now they're a Death Metal band.

Damn, it almost sounds like a requirement to hate every mainstream band here. I like Dimmu Borgir, Cradle of Filth, Pantera and Metallica, problem? And I even like some Nightwish and Job for a Cowboy. I love Lamb of God and Machine Head. Now, what are you going to do?

At 3/16/11 12:28 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 3/15/11 09:32 AM, Bahamut wrote: Here's a fun challenge: Find the silliest metal music video out there. To make the challenge even better, try to avoid mentioning Immortal.

as awesome as the song is....

Great :)

But I have to add this one

That's not silly, that's fucking epic.

YOU AAARE BEWIIIIITCHED!

At 3/15/11 09:32 AM, Bahamut wrote: Here's a fun challenge: Find the silliest metal music video out there. To make the challenge even better, try to avoid mentioning Immortal.

I found this.

Mustaine awesomeness at 1:35

At 3/14/11 04:23 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 3/14/11 06:34 AM, AniMetal wrote: You give metalheads too much credit.

Most "metalheads" either only like the mainstream bands(I use mainstream loosely, even bands like Edguy are mainstream) OR limit themselves to only a certain genre or two and don't look beyond that.

You seem to believe that your own tastes represent the ideal of good metal music.

This! Damn dude, taste in music is subjective, quality may not, but taste is.

A thing you should know, is that everybody in the Metal Hell enjoys some of the mainstream metal and some of the underground metal.

Yeah, as if only listening to underground stuff makes you more trve and kvlt and as if being trve and kvlt was important. Who cares if you're trve and kvlt, there's nothing more important than having pleasure with what you're listening too, whether it's mainstream or underground.

And I know that we all have our own "favorite bands we like to hate". I don't like Slayer,

Lol, I also can't stand Slayer, not saying they don't have some good songs, but for me it all sounds like "shred kerry king shred faster". It lacks of feeling for me.

I still enjoy my CoB stuff every once in a while, and I know that my metal tastes are not limited to a few bands or a few metal genres.

Yeah the problem is the extreme generalization of the fans and putting everyone in the same bag, I love COB, but I listen to almost everything in Metal, if not everything. I may not like a band but I don't really hate any band, and I can't see no point in hating a band, and building an argument expressing my hate against a band, it's useless, a total waste of time, time you could use listening to a band you like. And just because someone is obsessed with a band, that doesn't mean they may not like any other band and be totally closed-minded, in my case I'm obsessed with Insomnium. And I can give you an example of a guy I know, the dude is totally obsessed with COB, he even asked Alexi to accept him as a son on facebook (well that was a little bit silly lol), but he and his band, Scarscythe, played a cover in one concert, and it was not COB, it was Hypocrisy.

At 3/12/11 12:57 PM, AniMetal wrote:

At 3/11/11 08:06 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 3/10/11 06:44 PM, AniMetal wrote: If you discard COB's first two albums, which are decent, they're one of the shittiest bands around.

Weird, COB's third album has the highest score on MA and their fourth album scores higher than their second.

Have you ever been to a COB concert before?

Their fans are MORE obsessive than pantera fans or Bring Me The Horizon fans.

Seriously.

That's just the most typical argument almost everyone use to hate on a band. "OH THERE FANS R SUCH DIXSUCKERS DIXHEADS OLOLOLZ!". If you hate COB so much, why the fuck would you ever be concerned in making such hateful arguments about them? It's just useless, or are you just trying to stimulate their fans rage? Also, why the fuck would you even go to a COB concert, well, atleast, I am assuming you did, since you know so much about their fans obsession. And also, what the fuck do their fans obsession have to do with the music? If you don't like it, and you find it to be garbage, well it's your opinion, if you hate the band attitude, like they're always drunk and stuff like that, you're in your right, but it's just useless to be constantly pointing that.

Seriously, shut up.

At 3/9/11 08:47 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 3/9/11 04:15 PM, AniMetal wrote: Nah, COB is the lowest of the low - the only band lower is brokeNCYDE.

No. They mixed Power Metal, Melodic Death Metal and Neoclassical Metal in a very unique way, back when they started.

And Glam Rock!

The new Scar Symmetry album will come out in my birthday!

At 3/6/11 04:46 PM, batman64 wrote: Let the voting begin.

I am almost sure it was you who accepted me here in the Hell. You should be a Horseman again. And you're also the proof that Metal is not only for kids and teenagers. You have my vote :)

At 3/5/11 12:15 PM, TheThinWhale wrote:

At 3/4/11 02:02 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: Can you guys recommend me some very worth listening, dirty and heavy Stoner Doom and Stoner Sludge?

Bison B.C. - Slow Hand of Death

Eyehategod

I already know them. They're pretty good, one of my brother's favourite band.

Thank you.

At 3/4/11 02:06 PM, DeIirium wrote:

At 3/4/11 02:02 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: Can you guys recommend me some very worth listening, dirty and heavy Stoner Doom and Stoner Sludge?

Bison B.C. - Slow Hand of Death

Church of Misery, Reverend Bizarre.

Never heard about Church of Misery, but I will check it later.

I've here Reverend Bizarre's Harbinger of Metal, II: Crush the Insects, III: So Long Suckers and In the Rectory of the Bizarre Reverend. For what I've seen in Metal Archives, it's every full-lenght album they have and an EP. They might be the first band I will check because they're Finnish.

At 3/4/11 02:05 PM, SomaGuye wrote: Weedeater
Iron Monkey
Pombagira

Darn I thought I had more than that. I'll post some more if I remember it.

I have here my brother's Iron Monkey's Our problem album, I will check it later.

Never heard about Weedeater nor Pombagira, but when I get the time I will check them.

Thank you for the recommendations.

At 3/4/11 03:40 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I suggest you listen to Electric Wizard, pick up the album Dopethrone, it's a masterpiece :)
You should check out Bongripper's most recent album, Satan Worshipping Doom. It's not much of a Stoner record, but it's my favorite Doom Metal album, along with Dopethrone.
Then comes Sleep (American Stoner Doom Metal band). Pick up Sleep's Holy Mountain and Dopesmoker. But Dopesmoker is a 1 hour track, that makes up the full lenght of the album.

For Stoner Sludge, I suggest you listen to the album Amerijuanican by Bongzilla. The self-titled track is my favorite.

The band Dystopia (USA) makes some great Sludge/Crust. I don't know if that fits what you're looking for. But they make heavy and dirty music. Pick up the self-titled.

That's pretty much all I can contribute. I'll throw Mastodon and ISIS in. You might like these two, even though they don't really fit in the two genres you asked recommandations for.

I've already listened to Electric Wizard before, but I've only listened Witchcult Today, my brother also has Dopethrone here, I might check it later for sure.

Satan Worshipping Doom is an hell of an album, I love it, it's on the list of my favourite album, it's dirty, heavy, psychedelic, brutal... just wonderful.

I've already listened to Dopesmoker, my brother has listened that track multiple times, I really like how the music evolves and how the drums enter at the third minute approximately. I find the song a little bit tiring anyway, I need to check it again, and check Holy Mountain.

For Bongzilla, so far I've only listened Bongzilla's Gateway, and it's dirty, really dirty and powerful, really liked it. I might check Americanjuanican later anyway.

I've heard Nev talking about Dystopia before, so I searched about them, listened a track or two and I've enjoyed it, but I wasn't in the mood to listen to Dystopia, I might check them again later.

Mastodon! I love them, Blood Mountain, Crack the Skye and Leviathan are my favourite albums, and they're one of my favourite bands.

I have here some of my brother's Isis albums, I've already listened a few songs and I really need to check them again.

Thank you for the recommendations.

Can you guys recommend me some very worth listening, dirty and heavy Stoner Doom and Stoner Sludge?

Bison B.C. - Slow Hand of Death

At 3/3/11 04:47 PM, AniMetal wrote: Thousands of people obviously have no idea what metal is then if they think viking metal is a genre.

In fact, in wikipedia they refer Viking Metal as lyrical theme and not a subgenre.

At 3/3/11 06:31 AM, AniMetal wrote:

At 3/3/11 03:05 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Is that what they call Death 'n' Roll?

No, it's not a legitimate genre. I think it's just bands being silly, calling themselves that.

Silly or not it sounds good.

At 3/2/11 01:50 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 3/2/11 11:59 AM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote:

At 3/1/11 07:01 PM, AniMetal wrote: What the flying fuck is death n' roll?

Death metal with rock n' roll influences. I almost sure it's not a real subgenre, but it's like viking metal, it's folk, but I may ask for a viking themed band...

I really thought Viking Metal was not a real genre, but now, I'm kind of unsure. If you look up Viking Metal on the Map of Metal, the guy wrote this about Viking Metal:

He didn't wrote that, it's in wikipedia.

But Death 'n' Roll, while I didn't look it up closely, is probably a kind of mix between Melodeath and Rock 'n' Roll. I really doubt you can actually mix straight down Death Metal with Rock 'n' Roll...

I don't know if you heard the Death N' Roll tracks on Map of Metal, but that shit ain't melo at all to me.

I tend to swallow my anger and maybe shed a tear.

At 3/1/11 07:01 PM, AniMetal wrote: What the flying fuck is death n' roll?

Death metal with rock n' roll influences. I almost sure it's not a real subgenre, but it's like viking metal, it's folk, but I may ask for a viking themed band...

At 3/1/11 05:28 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Map of Metal

That thing is just amazing...

I want more Death N' Roll!

At 2/26/11 04:26 AM, SoullessMonster wrote: All hail HeavenDuff? The Keeper Of Metal Knowledge? Haha
I agree, a lot of subgenres that are theme based are kind of retarded, I think I've only stuck with Viking Metal because of Amon Amarth. And I only listen to a few Alestorm songs.

"We play death metal. We write about vikings so, therefore, some refer us to viking metal, but I have no idea what that is. I can't imagine the vikings veer into metal at all except on the swords and stuff. And musically, I guess they only played these strange lip instruments and some bongos or whatever. "

The Metal Web's interview with Johan Hegg

At 2/23/11 10:35 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 2/23/11 02:20 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: I have their album Ashen Eidolon but I've not listened to it yet. Might check it later.

Damn! Their vocalist sounds waaaay too much like John Haughm from Agalloch.

Shit! Just listened to it, fucking beautiful, but the drums sound like they were programmed. It sounds a lot like Agalloch mixed with Insomnium and something else but I can't tell.

At 2/23/11 12:32 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 2/22/11 10:30 PM, Dalnaki wrote: What's the big deal? They actually are. Shallow, too. Plus, what's the big deal with Gorod touring with them? I think they fit in pretty well with bands like that. I wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

Ponos is going to hate you for this...

I suggest you guys listen to Gallowbraid, they are and amazing Doom/Folk/Black Metal band :)

I have their album Ashen Eidolon but I've not listened to it yet. Might check it later.

At 2/22/11 09:06 AM, PenisClown wrote: Aaaah Foo Fighters. New song, sweet new video.

The Foos are sounding heavier. And Lemmy KILL-MEISTER himself is in the video.

QOTSA influences? I like it.

At 2/15/11 06:19 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I suggest everybody listen to the newest Bongripper album named Satan Worshipping Doom. It is absolutely fantastic !!!

Fuck, now you'll get all the credit and maybe I've listened to it before you :<

And it's an excelent album, very intense and psychedelic, I want to listen to it drunk, after smoking weed or on acids. I know it's going to be the best experience in my life.

At 2/14/11 07:12 PM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: WOO IT'S MY 18TH BIRTHDAY WOO FUCK YEA.

/retard

Heavy(lolol) Birthday!

Maybe I'm a little bit late.

At 2/11/11 07:40 PM, Zodir wrote: Also, has anyone here heard of a band called Daylight Dies? They're pretty cool melodic death/doom metal. I suggest checking them out!

Yeah, I started listening to them because I thought death + doom = paradox, but now I know over 9000 doom/death bands. Anyway there has been while since I heard their album I have, thank you for remember me.

At 2/11/11 07:09 PM, batman64 wrote: Which means I can see Amon Amarth on April 15th.
2 sets.
Gonna be killer.

That's my birthday!

At 2/9/11 11:46 PM, Corpus-Delicti wrote: What are your guys opinions on Draconian?

I like them, but I've only listened to the album Arcane Rain Fell, and I heard they have better. I must find one of those better albums.