16 Forum Posts by "the-SovieT"
At 9/17/03 07:56 PM, RobMephisto wrote: "I'd rather be flag burning."
America's so hated because it's also the most popular country in the world.
A lot of people love America. Don't know why, they just do.
No America is hated because it has been suporting and building dictatorships and directly explopiting entire countrys with neo-colonialism..
it is hated not for its "freedom" or anything like it but for its foreing policys that directly mess with other countrys policys..
in conclusion USA is hated for building and suporting the most violent and dangerous terrorist (statual) organization in the whole world....
At 9/11/03 05:32 PM, DrakeDracoli wrote: OMG SovieT what's up? You know me!
heheh good to see you here Drake! :D
so if i were making some sort of ultra patriotic, ignorant closed minded speech about the other 11 September you would say something like "kick ass!" or "well said!"
but its all about some "stupid" south american country and so does not deserve your atention?
you my friend are a ignorant redneck...
At 9/11/03 12:50 PM, Pueidist wrote: watch out, you might get arrested for being a terrorist "raghead"
and why is that?
btw acording to CIA, Allende did not died at the hands of the fascists but suicided..
how?
by shooting himselg FOUR times in the back with a fucking AK...
this ofcoruse impossible, since one cannot put a machine gun on his back and actually shoot the gun..
its alredy impossible to do it once.. now imagine four times....
another well told CIAesque epic.. *rollseyes*
In 11 September, 1973, a fascist coup, executed by some sectors of the chilen army, commanded by Augusto Pinochet with the suport of the USA, topples the democraticly elected goverment, elected by the Chilen people. The revolutionary process towards socialism, that is having even more iportance now, scares the bourgois, the militarys and the USA foreing policys; the nacionalizations, the agrarian reform and all the conquests of the workers fortified even more the popular power. [b]Salvador Allende, the President elected by the Popular union died in the presedential palace of La Moneda with a machinegun in his hands fighting for the people and against fascism[/b]
the true meaning of 11 September is not the falling of two towers, collapsed by the criminal hand of ex-american friends..
it represents the sacrifice and will pof the people..
it represents the epic fight of a single man against fascism.. the sef sacrifice for not only his ideals but for the people..
Allende died, but his revolutionary spirit and ideal still lives amongst the people..
His sacrifice is not in vain, for the next generation of revolutionarys will gladly and proudly raise the communist flag and take the power from the hands of the rulling classes...
and remember the ones that with nothing to loose but theyr lifes, gave it all away for the people.. and gladly joined the immortal heros of the people in the revolutionary parthenon that is the peoples mind..
[b][SIZE=14][color=red]VIVA ALLENDE!
ALLENDE O POVO NUNCA TE ESQUECERÁ!
ALLENDE THE PEOPLE SHALL NEVER FORGET YOU! [/SIZE][/color][/b]
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"Communism demotivates people. They think "Well... if i stay at home the State gives me $20,500 salary, and if I work i get $21,600 salary. Whats the point?"
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WRONG...
in socialism theres is one rather fundamental law.. he who can work and doesnt shall not eat either..
it is rather basic.. you do not have to kill yourself working to survive.. you will work the enough and get waht you deserve acording to your needs.. to each acording to his needs..
What is Capitalism?
In contrast to Socialism and Communism, Capitalism is the control of goods and services through Corporations (Microsoft, McDonalds, Enron etc.) which produce only to make profits for their shareholders and the rich. Capitalism eventually leads to Imperialism as it expands, (the conquest and exploitation of other, usually smaller nations) or possibly even fascism. The primary source of profit, and thus the wealth of the capitalists comes from surplus labor. Surplus labor is the extra hours spent working by a member of the proletariat. This can only be extracted, exploited from the working class, a class that must sell its labor power to survive since it is separated from the means of production. Basically, if one is a factory worker and works an eight hour day, at the very least two of those hours go unpaid. Repeat, AT LEAST two of those hours GO UNPAID. If they were paid in full, there would be no profit for the capitalists. Their goal is simply to maximize profits by extending working hours and slashing wages. Essentially, Capitalism is the dictatorship of the majority (the proletariat or working class) by the minority (the bourgeoisie or capitalist class), in short, exploitation, greed, and death.
What is a Worker's State?
A Worker's State is what emerges immediately after the overthrow of Capitalism via a worker's revolution. The means of production and resources are nationalized and decisions concerning production are made through worker's democracy (usually councils, in the USSR these were called ‘soviets’). In a healthy state development will steadily increase as the bourgeoisie is held in check and Socialism will emerge. A Worker's State is unstable however and can degenerate however (as did the USSR) or can even come into existence deformed (as did nations such as China, Cuba, North Korea, etc). However, it is important to note that many of the states mentioned have degenerated or were born deformed as a result of siege by the bourgeoisie and the possession of a peasant majority (peasant’s are a class separate from the proletariat and have different interests and tendencies). Finally, although they are degenerated or deformed, the worst Worker’s State is more advanced than the best capitalist state and deserves defense against capitalist aggression and counter-revolution. What IS needed in the Worker’s States is a new political revolution by the proletariat to oust the bureaucratic parasites holding down human rights and appropriating labor to maintain their own privileged lifestyle.
What is Socialism?
Socialism is a transitional phase from Capitalism to Communism. The working class (the proletariat) controls the means of production (factories, machinery, resources, land, ect) and re-distributes the wealth. It is a period Marx calls "Dictatorship of the Proletariat". Wages are paid through labor certificates, or more likely in our modern era, labor credits, and these are given only through labor. Less work is required by each worker throughout the day unless they volunteer it, as a great amount of surplus value is no longer required for a capitalist’s profit. What is required for a time however, is for some labor to be appropriated by the state to keep useful social programs running and to generate economic growth. Society also continues to become more advanced and eventually Communism emerges as all class is destroyed.
What is Communism?
Communism is the final phase following a period of Socialist transition after the revolutionary overthrow of capitalism. Communism results through the transition and advancement of a healthy worker's state and Socialism. Communism has no class or money, and the society works as the old Marxist slogan goes "from each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs." This means that people will have reached discipline enough to work for the good of society, and as a result will take what they need or want, but not so much as there could be someone else who needs it more.
this depends of what kind of Anarchy you are talking about...
there is lots of diferent types of democracys...
for instance there is anarcho-syndicalism, wich is basicly a very libertarian form of socialism...
this actaully happened and flourished in spain before and during the spanish civil war.. (wich was only possible trough the election of the popular front that made huge reforms and gave birth to the most socialist elected state ever)
yet this form of anarchy is incomplete at maximum... since for the creation of a true free society you must first change all society and not only the means of production...
there is also the "normal" anarchy, wich was defended by Bakuine, Kropotkin and others...
this is basicly equal tot he marxist view yet while every marxist will defend the creation of a working peoples state and the implementation of a dictatorship of the proletariat anarchists defend the emidiat destruction of all states.. replacinghtemn by anarchy...
yet i cannot tak more about this due to my ignorance of my subject...
yet there is also another type of anarcy: Communism let me explain...
Communism isnt directly achieved through a revolution...
this means, you do not create communism overnight..
first you must creat a socialist state...
a dictatorship of the proletariat.. a marxist-leninist state to distribute the wealth and educate the people...
you need to creat the proletarian vanguard to rule the state and make sure everything is by the rules...
notice that the proletarian vanguard isnt a elite group...
it is the intelectual faction of the working class that will take care of thje political and economical aspects of the state...
yet even this stage is temporarly..
after all the counter-revolutionaryts are stoped...
after the dictatorship of the proletariat equaled the balance of the powers (since before you only have the dictatorship of the bourgeouse) then and only then you can absolve the state.. thus creating one and only one class...
then...
with the absolvation of the state, all classes and church you have a rather anarchist society...
yet this cannot be created without a socialist state... sometimes its also needed a authoritarian state in dificult cases (like the Cuban example... such Authoritanism is necessary in order to protect the people from not only the american terrorist acts but also the possible advent of a direct attack of the USA...)
At 5/11/03 03:35 PM, Kenney333 wrote: the Cia is just a way for america to break its own laws
America cant keep trying to control the world and change it in any way they see fit, i think he need another, nice big communist super power, like China
all get is shit for expressing my left wing views, but its not like that will change them, maybe newgrounds needs a communist crew, im all for it
sorry to break your tide but China isnt communist..
its a revisionist socialist country...
its a stupid and deadly mix of stalinism with capitalism...
NOT communism..
ROFL...
there is a somewhat gran diference betwen the soviet union and the term soviet...
soviet is the gathering of working men, peasents and soldiers... that made the october revolution..
soviet union was the ather state that diverged from a marxist-leninist state, to a stalinist one and in the late years of the repubic to a revisionist state...
yet you wouldnt know that would you?
*sigh*
and yet the amounf ot stupid fucks taht cant tell the great diferences betwenn a fascist and a communist doesnt cease to grow...
At 5/10/03 09:37 AM, NEMESiSZ wrote:At 5/10/03 09:01 AM, the_SovieT wrote: Marxist-LeninistIdiot, right, we get it.
again a perfect specie of "estupidus ignoramus"
btw learn another phrase moron...
i mean learn other words repeating yourself over and over does not make your capitalist ass look cool...
best war film: "Underground"...
a film about Yoguslavian Communist partisans in WWII...
"You hate america? Great, america doesn't care, they still control the world, and that will never change, no matter how many che t-shirt wearing self proclaimed anarchists think otherwise.
No more posts from you, you're an ignorant fool."
and he is the ignorant fool?
i do not think so...
YOU believe in a system built in slavery, racism, hipocrisy and mass murder...
you bindly believe in the holy protection of the united bourgeouse of america..
you are the one that actualy thinks that America is defending "freedom"!
ROFL sweet ilusion...
when it was the CIA who trained and financed Osama Bin Laden (if i recall Reagan caled him a "freedom fighter")
you now attacked Iraq because it had mass destruction weapons... when its the USA and Israel who hold the most destructive arsenal in the world... and if i recall it was the USA who first used nuclear bombs..
but yet i havent seen any mass destruction weapon in the hands of the Iraquians...
you say its for freedom...
yet who helped Sadam to rise to power was CIA...
when he Sadam was only a puppet in the hands of USA to attack Iran he was also a "freedom fighter"...
the first message George Bush proclaimed to the Iraqui people was "do not destroy your oil reserves"...
funny..
realy funny..
its expecially funny because the only 2 ministries that werent consumed by fames or plundered were the Ministry of Petrol and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. this two were protected by the invasors since the first day of invasion...
These are the interests of the imperialistic colonizers: the natural resources that they want to plunder, and the repression that will be necessary to achieve what they want.
but theres more: The troops that "aren't enough to control the plunderings" were active the very same day when it was about killing the people manifestating against the new goverments imposed by the newcomers in Mosul.
do not fuck with us...
do not take us by ignorant teens that bindly folow a flag or a banner...
you may swallow al the govermental crap you can...
yet do not expect us to do the same...
YOU are the ignorant fuck here..
YOUR WORKING CLASS WILL BURY YOU!
