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You all DO know that SUVs are incredibly useful, versitile vehicles that get no worse gas mileage than pickups and performance cars, right?
But then again, people on this site are a bunch of bandwagoners who can't form their own opinions on anything and only do what their favorite punk band tells them is cool......

While Micheal Moore is a stupid, fat dickhead, I wouldn't write a book about him, and if I did, it wouldn't have such a stupid title.

At 6/6/04 12:42 AM, chap-0 wrote: Mandatory Honda Insight's and other gaselectric hybrids for every citizen. mmmmm 70+ mpg.

Honda Insights get 66 rated MPG, but real world tests have proven that they get MUCH lower than that.
The problem with Hybrids, is while they are efficent, they don't have enough power for real world driving situations. Their engines have to work VERY hard to do things like climb up hills or carry anything in the back. Because of this, their fuel economy is usually much worse than advertised.
Diesel cars are a much better solution. Pugeot has a car that gets 60+MPG, yet has over 200 foot pounds of torque (The Insight dosen't even have 60 foot pounds of torque). Volkswagen TDI diesels also get good fuel economy(55-60MPG) and have plenty ample power for daily driving (~100 horsepower, 180 foot pounds of Torque, I think)

At 5/28/04 07:20 AM, Alpha6 wrote:

China's JUST a cheap pussy that can't beat us! China would be able to hold off an invasion from us by having too much of a big population! If so, we can declare Biowar, Chemwar, and nuke war on them! We can get Russia to help us as well!
China is our WORST enemy! that is why we need to destroy them someday! If China didn't make allys with our enemys they'd be better off! As for Japan, we can beat em again anyday!

Christ I hope you are kidding. We should never declare "nuke war" on ANYONE. Do you know what blowing up one single nuke would do to the world? Not only that, but the second we launch a single weapon of mass destruction, I gaurantee that everyone else in the world will launch theirs. Alot of them are going to be pointed at us, as well.
Oh, China has nukes, too, for that matter. The reason we don't fuck with China is because we couldn't ever beat them. They could probably never decisvley beat us, either, but they could definatley hold us off with their giant army.

Mans own reliance upon drugs to treat his illnesses will cause a large super-plauge that will thin us out a bit.
You see, most people don't realize that bacteria and viri are living things. They will mutate and change to survive. This means they will eventually develop immunities to the things that kill them. Our medicines being one of those things.
There are already some strains of TB that are immune to Penecillin and many other drugs. I would hate to see what happened if the a really nasty disease like the Bubonic Plauge became immune to our medicines.

At 5/23/04 02:53 PM, mrpopenfresh wrote: R.I.P Goatse.

Clueless n00bs will never forget you.

Goatse lives on at goat.cx

It bothers me how the liberals try to make people think we are losing this war. Talk to any veteran of the war, they will tell you. We aren't just beating the Iraqis, we are kicking their asses. Sure, men die every day, but it is a war, and men die in wars. We lost 400,000 in WW2 and no one tried to portray that as a loss...

At 4/23/04 09:55 PM, CrassClock wrote:

At 4/23/04 08:27 PM, THE_HULKSTER wrote: I hate all punk.

You hate a genre of music you don't even listen to?

You're whining about how punk bands are whiny?

LOL KTHX BAI BAI

Oh, I see. I am expected to listen to music I don't like just so I can prove I don't like it.
That makes lots of sense.

Also, you are whining about how a certian president is stupid, yet you use such words as "KTHX" and "BAI BAI"
Way to rage against the machine, my rebellious friend. Now all you need to do is burn some SUVs and you can prove you are a REAL rebel!

I hate all punk. I don't give a shit about how commericalized music is or if it "sold out" I just care about if it sounds good to me.
Punk music all sounds the same, horrible guitar playing with a whiny male vochalist singing about how the government sucks and middle class life in suburbia is so hard. Utter bullshit, if you ask me. Not to mention that it is considered SO DEEP AND KEWEL by legions of teenage angst machines. Half of whom only like the music because they want to fit into the "HOLY SHIT SO REBELLIOUS" stereotype that it's listeners usually are unjustly lumped into.

At 4/18/04 03:06 PM, Cinghiale wrote: It would have been nice if Britain and France stepped in and stopped Germany when it mobilized again like they said they would in Versailles.

Too bad both Britian and France were weak at that time and would have been most certinally crushed in no time at all.

As far as I am concerned, the end of civilization is not going to come from a massive oil shortage (because we already have the technology to deal with one) but rather from a demographic meltdown caused mostly by people either not being able to/not wanting to have children.

You see, In the old days, you needed children to work on your farm, and to look after you when you grew old. You needed lots of them, because many children died young.

But with better health care and with social security, that’s all changed. You don't really need children anymore. What's more, when you live in a city, children cost you time and money. Besides, more and more women work. They’ll have children at a later age and bear fewer children – if they decide to have any children at all, that is. Anti-conception has nothing to do with it. A religious lifestyle doesn't stop the trend either, not to mention the seemingly rising number of homosexuals(I have no problem with them, by, the way) It’s just the course of history that’s doing us in.

Not impressed yet? Please let us throw some more figures at you. At this very moment moment, the populations of over sixty countries are falling. Fifty years ago, women throughout the world on average had five children. Today, the average has diminished to 2,7 kids. And all the experts agree on one thing: that’s just the beginning.

Of course, you would probably expect our populations to be bolstered by immigrants from poor countries. However, the birth rates in Asia and China are dropping substantially, as well as the poor south american countries.
Africa is really the only place with a high birth rate anymore, but so much of their country has poor healthcare, so many of their children die young. The whole AIDS epidemic dosen't help much, either.

At 3/24/04 10:04 PM, second_sun wrote: you could still make something of yourself. who's to say that in communism there wouldn't be rewards for working hard, like getting a better job? And power should be in the hands of the people. They're the one's that government is set up for, they should be the ones to decide their fate.

Because your job is given to you by the government based upon what they need. Say you are given the job of a carnie. It's a pretty bad dead end job, but no matter how hard you work and toil and try to be the best carnie ever, you will STILL be a carnie. You can't start your own business. You can't invent a new technology.

In a capitalist system, this carnie could save up his money and start up his own store, freeing him of the dead end status of a carnie. If he has the ambition, money and intelligence to do so, his store can become a national chain, making this carnie a very rich man.
This can't happen in communisim because the government owns everything. You shop at their stores, eat their food, drink their beverages and wear their clothes.

At 3/24/04 09:22 PM, second_sun wrote: lol, anyone who likes GWAR should not be able to talk about politics. I'm just kidding dude, but you speak articulately. I have to disagree with your "communism will never work in the real world" thing. On what grounds can you say this is true? It hasn't worked in the past because people have been stupid, but if it was tried in a small, self-sustaining community somewhere it would flourish.

Communisim puts far too much power into the hands of one man and it also discourages people to try and make something of themselves.
It is a great system on paper, but in pratice, it has never worked very well. Sure, Soviet Russia was a major world power during their existance, but their history was pockmarked with tyrany and needless bloodshed.

Isreal started this, they should end this. They believe that they deserve their own lands because their people have "suffered" so much. Yet the palestinians (or arabs in general) have encountered a fair deal of suffering as well. Don't they deserve their own homeland?

Communisim can never work in the real world, and anarchy is a political fantasy that could never be sustained for very long for a number of reasons.
As far as I am concerned, the old tribal systems were the best for people. They worked hard to support themselves and weren't overly concerned with money and whatnot.
However, out of the "modern" systems of government, it seems like most people either favor socialisim or capitalisim.
Capitalisim allows more freedoms, but socialisim usually allows ample freedoms, as well, with the advantage of allowing the government to be a player in businesses, which can greatly benefit the people by lowering prices on some goods and preventing some industries from growing TOO huge.
Either one is a good system and can work very well with the right leaders.

At 3/18/04 12:34 PM, Veggiemeal wrote: You seem to think I want to have a moment of silence, every time somebody dies. If you would have read an understand my post you would have realized I really think we shouldn't hold silences at all. You see, my point was we hold silences when something happens in a western country. We don't hold silences when something happens in a non-western country. I'd say hold silences for both parts of the world or hold non at all. I prefer the last one.

I am going to use this post to remind myself how stupid you are and how I am glad to be a lurker instead of a heavy poster.

At 2/29/04 02:09 AM, Phoenix_Guitarist wrote: I have nothing really to say about the post...
but I'm still laughing at the Post I just read above.

Was it the "penis enhancement" line or just my whole gun nut rant?

My father fought in the Vietnam war not because he wanted to "fight for a corrupt president" or even do it for himself, he was drafted.
And even after he came back, worthless liberal shitheads like Veggiemeal spit in his face and called him a baby murderer.
Most liberals think it's alright to blame the pieces instead of the player....

At 2/28/04 07:18 PM, miket311 wrote:

At 2/28/04 06:34 PM, THE_HULKSTER wrote: I have a feeling all the "OH SO KEWEL" anarchists would shit their pants if anarchy acually ruled.
The whole "Freedom to walk into anyones house and murder them without any recourse" thing really ruins Anarchy.

the odd part of that is i wouldnt really care to much if that did happen, id just get a rifle w scope and a desert eagle/diving knife from my freind. then rob an arms store once it happened. but what you described isnt anarchy. You get recourse and government recourse so horribly confused....i bet you think a government defines a country...

Governments enforce laws. No governments, no laws.

Also, I don't think you could handle yourself too well in an anarchy with a desert eagle and a "scoped rifle". Mainly because Desert Eagles are totally impractical for everything except penis enhancement (I HAVE A 50 CALIBER HOLY SHIT) and scoped rifles are badly limited by their slow rate of fire and the time they require to aim.
You would acually be much better off with an assault rifle and maybe a pratical pistol. Just because it was good in counter-strike dosen't mean it will really dominate.

I have a feeling all the "OH SO KEWEL" anarchists would shit their pants if anarchy acually ruled.
The whole "Freedom to walk into anyones house and murder them without any recourse" thing really ruins Anarchy.

At 12/23/03 04:06 PM, hello-there wrote: dude, youa gotta be shittin me. theres no way masturbation would ever become illeagle. how could it. to many people do it. its NATURAL. how would they catch you. we have a warrent for whoever. Crime? masturbation.
Who needs 4 pounds of K.Y.

"Your words are meaningless. The rustling of leaves is the only language that makes any sence"

I don't know what is funnier. The fact that someone brought this thread back from the dead or the fact that people can't understand it's satirical nature.

At 12/19/03 01:26 AM, OpIvy420 wrote:

At 12/19/03 12:42 AM, UberNES wrote: So you are saying, that if I decide to go hunting, and someone from ELF torches my house and kills my wife and kids that I'm supposed to deal with it?

How many people have the ELF killed to date? 0.

How many defenseless deers have been killed for no purpose other than to bring sadistic pleasure into the sad, shallow lives of Midwestern cubicle dwellers? Untold millions.

You're safe from the ELF, but if deers ever evolve opposable thumbs, and see you in your hunting hat and orange vest, then you're fucked.

I have a pretty simple question for you.
Do you believe in the theory of Evolution and natural selection?

Oh, also, the plural form of deer is deer. Not "Deers"

If a man dies bathed in the blood of his foes, he is successful.
If he does not, he is not successful.
Also, If you don't like Ted Nugent, the gates of whatever heaven you believe in are automatically closed to you.

If they were black cops killing a white man, it would be alright.
But since they are white cops killing a black man, they are evil nazi racists who are plotting to resurect hitler with the blood of 1000 black babies.

Angel, this is directed towards you.
What would you do if you were sitting in a house that has been in your house for generations right now, minding your own business. Mind you, it's not a large or fancy house, but you manage to get by, and keep a low profile in your town. You never make people angry at you and are liked by most.
Then one day, your door is kicked down and a squad of men with large guns pointed at you demand you leave your house right now and never come back because the homeless man down the street has suffered so much and he deserves a safe place to live.
Would you be angry? Would you try to get your house back?

At 11/27/03 11:54 AM, theredgoatee wrote:

At 11/27/03 10:12 AM, bringerofbadinfo wrote:

Hitler put them in camps because they were unwanted and refused to leave. America and Britain refused to take supposed refugees. So they were placed in camps without the intention of genocide. How can they be fed when America and Britain were targeting German civilians that ran the farms and factories?

so are you denying the fact that Hittler gassed and insinerated alot of bodies, have you read a book called "Night" it was writen by a holocost serviver.

Yes, and we ALL know that just because the man is jewish and survived the Holocaust, he would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER exagerate things or even, HEAVEN FORBID, lie!
JEWS NEVER LIE!
EVER!

While I don't doubt that the Holocaust happened and that Weisel did in fact survive it, his book is loosley based upon what happened to him. Don't believe me? Ask any legitimate historian.
They will say that, while based on what happened to Weisel, Night is mostly bullshit.
Also, the poster you quoted makes a valid point.
Who is to say that the Germans didn't intend on keeping the jews alive untill they got their farms and factories blown up?
Oh, and they never gassed anyone, either. People were shot, starved or died of disease.
I don't support the Holocaust, but it's been blown WAY out of proportion to support the whole "OGMF JEWS HAVE SUFFERED SO MUCH THEY NEED A SAFE HOMELAND" argument.
I could rant about it for hours, but I think I will cut this one short.

At 11/22/03 10:20 PM, Shrapnel wrote: Most of the people here have never met a soldier and fail to realize that they are human beings just like you and me (I'm a part-time soldier as well).

Everyone is an individual and if you're going to blame or insult someone, blame the players not the pawns.

The soldiers didn't CHOSE to be in Iraq, and most of them would probably leave in a heartbeat if they got the chance.
The same people who bash the soldiers are the people who spat on Vietnam vets when they came home. They had no choice of weather they wanted to go there or not. They were forced. Drafted.
The war in Iraq is wrong, but it's not the soldiers who caused it.
It is politicians and generals who lusted for cheap oil and a shot in the arm of patriotisim to save Bush's administration.

At 11/22/03 06:01 PM, punk_disease wrote: Should Nicaragua, El Salvador, Panama, Guatemala, Grenada and Chile form their own "Coalition of the willing" and launch a pre-emptive strike at the US to prevent another US-led or backed invasion of their country?

They are welcome to try, but I don't really think they could do much to the US....

At 3/19/03 04:43 PM, NJDeadzone wrote:

At 3/19/03 04:36 PM, Taxman2A wrote:

170 countries turning against us? not likely!

170 countries? about 4 have an military that can cross an ocean, France, Russia, China, and name another...

Now, Hypothetically, lets say France, Russia and China turned against the US.
Do you REALLY think we would have a chance against them? They all have nukes, tanks, jets and "smart weapons"
America got it's ass whipped by a bunch of Vietnamese farmers with pitchforks. Do you REALLY think we could handle Spetsnaz? They make our Navy Seals look like pussy schoolgirls.

At 11/21/03 10:06 PM, Lyddiechu wrote:

At 11/21/03 01:20 AM, Kaosboy85 wrote:

At 11/19/03 07:04 PM, Peter90688 wrote: i converted. Im now a punk.that site is badass

Wow looks like you really are converted, you changed your alignment and everything. Good job.

i think its pathetic that one single website can change one's entire political philosophy.. *sighh* how lazy we are in this modern age!

I think it's sad that people think Punk is a political philosophy.
When I was a kid, punks were just the kids who didn't follow trends and thought for themselves....That was before all the "OMG GREEN DAY SPIKED HAIR LOL ANARCHY IN THE UK LOL" stuff came around, though,