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At 8/24/04 04:55 PM, antiklaus wrote: Oh and there is the Bush statement, "Kerry should be proud of his service record in VietNam"

This is true! Bush said that because his lousy war record outshines his awful senate record.

You have to put yourself in the best light possible to try and win.

At 8/24/04 04:59 PM, antiklaus wrote: When the minority of people in a 'democracy' elect a president, that IS a technincality. If you can't see that, then you need better glasses.

Once again it's time for antiklaus to go back to school and learn how his government works.

Pop Quiz time!

By which method are presidents elected in the United States?

A) Popular Vote
B) Electoral College

Once you can correctly answer that question we can have a conversation, otherwise my point still stands.

At 8/24/04 04:51 PM, antiklaus wrote:

Ok, I was going to read the rest of your post but I decided to stop here.

Yes, but you said you would do the same thing... ie 'turn me in'

When did I post that? I'm certain that I never did.

Show me when I did and we can continue this conversation.

At 8/24/04 04:44 PM, antiklaus wrote: You ignore the thousands of Blacks whose votes were never counted because they had similar names or birthdays to convicted criminals... most of whom would have voted for Gore...

and you ignore the fact that the government itself noted that there were a disproportionate number of black voters whose votes were cast out..

HAHAHAHA!

You posted a source that proves my point and now you are complaining about some allegations that can't be proven one way or the other.

There is no technicality. This conversation is over, I'm sorry you can't see that.

At 8/24/04 04:41 PM, TheSkunk wrote: Please tell me you already knew all of this... please.

Oh yeah I did. I had to point it out to antiklaus again. Sorry to flog a dead horse.

At 8/24/04 04:09 PM, Subtle_Seductress wrote: Do I have to call another random male and prove i am female?

Don't do that. Most of these guys have never spoken to a girl before. They should earn it. haha.

At 8/24/04 04:36 PM, Camarohusky wrote: Yeah, if your a puss who's afraid of every little thing that isn't American... Oh No! I think I see a canadian fly! It's gotta be a terrorist!

I neversaid that it should be considered terrorist.

According to that website? Kerry's service record looks better. Thats to be expected from a group with that name. What proves their bias in making the president look bad are some of the comments they made. Such as, "Boy, that document sure has gone through the wash a few times! Wonder what's on the original microfiche? "

AWOLBUSH.com is making comments about documents against the president but doesn't even mention that Kerry's medals may not be deserved as stated by individuals who served with Kerry and saw what happened first hand.

At 8/24/04 04:19 PM, Camarohusky wrote: Do you seriously think that sanskrit is related to arabic?

No of course it isn't. Neither is Elvish but if you are writing something that looks like an arabic language (such as Elvish or Sanskrit) it would arise suspicion in a coworker.

At 8/24/04 04:23 PM, antiklaus wrote: http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/2000presgeresults.htm

Florida

Bush
2,912,790

Gore
2,912,253

Thats a difference of 537 votes. It was on the very first page.

notice the DOT gov --- I picked it JUST for you.

Thank you for picking an excellent source. Just as I thought, George Bush won the state of Florida and the 2000 presidential election.

Acting condescending won't make you anymore correct.

If those were the true numbers why isn't Al Gore in the whitehouse right now?

citing a source would be nice.

At 8/24/04 04:14 PM, antiklaus wrote: Why go ad hominem on me? Skunk debunked him

Skunk posted after I posted. How could I debunk him when he posted after I did?

More craziness...

At 8/24/04 03:56 PM, antiklaus wrote: And do I doubt the same firing would have taken place if the guy was heckling Kerry under similar circumstances? not even...

A Bush supporter wouldn't go to a Democratic event with the intention of acting like a jackass.

Thats the difference between a Republican and a Democrat. Republicans are in the very least respectful and have the decency to not show up to a rally and cause trouble. Especially if a customer of their firm was nice enough to give them tickets to the event. Why would you jeopardize the business relationship?

YEAH! That Conservative Supreme Court gave Bush the presidency! YEAH!

RABBLE! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!

Lets ignore the truth and claim he stole the election years after we were proven wrong!

At 8/24/04 03:53 PM, antiklaus wrote:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp

Read it and weep. Swiftvets DEBUNKED.

Try reading that a little closer.

#2 Bush hasn't jumped ship. He said that 527's shouldn't be allowed in his opinion. He never claimed that what the SBVT were false in their claims.

He specifically said "That ad" referring to the Swiftboat vets...

Yes. He said that ad shouldn't have aired, not that its claims were false.

http://www.awolbush.com/kerry-vs-bush.asp

compare Kerry's record to Bush's side by side.

What could possible make you think that a site called "AWOLBUSH" has any agenda at exposing truth. It looks like they are out to make the president look bad, possibly omitting facts along the way.

Your sources suck.

I like your sexy new profile pic seductress.

10/10

You can lash out all you want AK. If I was acting like an idiot at work and got in trouble I wouldn't blame conservatives.

At 8/24/04 03:38 PM, antiklaus wrote: You are really an ideological whore are you not?

He stated all true facts. If believing facts makes me an ideological whore then so be it.

Meanwhile you, the conspiracy theorist and reject anything conservative guy you are, throw bombs at people like me who don't believe in this whacky nonsense.

If you choose to believe in a bunch of crazy unfounded theories about our rights being trampled on and Bush knowing about 9-11 before it happened and we're only in Iraq for oil then fine. Thats your perrogative. Just don't try to shout down individuals who like to use logic and facts to get a good view of the world and live accordingly.

If you still believe, after all this time, that George W Bush stole the election then I feel really sorry for you and the limits of your intellect.

At 8/24/04 12:21 PM, nxgen2344 wrote: Correct stuff

nxgen2344 you are absolutely correct. I'm glad to see someone as young as you get your head above what the media bombards you with everyday. Congratulations.

Even college age and grown men and women haven't gotten a clue yet. You're ahead of the curve and it will serve you well. While others are out in the peace corps digging irrigation ditches you'll be earning your fortune.

At 8/24/04 02:57 PM, antiklaus wrote:

There was a difference of just over 500 votes in Florida those numbers matter.

http://democrats.com/display.cfm?id=181
By a strange coincidence, Gore actually won the Florida recount by 46,600 votes. More than enough to offset your entire account - even if all 46,000 of your double registered voters had been ignored.

oh? So Gore won the elction by 46,600 votes? Well I'm glad your source of democrats.com is actually after the truth and not trying to promote only their ideology.</sarcasm>

Nice try, read my above post.

Oh and everyone...It's over. Bush is president. Go back to what you were doing before.

Isn't irony a funny thing.

Sure it was. It was everybody elses fault.

At 8/24/04 02:52 PM, antiklaus wrote:

Kerry was a vietnam hero, despite the evidence.

what evidence? Swiftboat vets? That's a well debunked one by now. Even Bush has 'jumped ship' on them.

#1 The swiftboat veterans have never been debunked

#2 Bush hasn't jumped ship. He said that 527's shouldn't be allowed in his opinion. He never claimed that what the SBVT were false in their claims.

Bush was a deserter, despite the evidence.

Actually, that's not a given, but it is suspect. What IS a given, is that Bush ducked out of two years of flying after he missed his drug screen.

Since it's "not a given" send me some proof. I'll look at any link you post as I've done in the past.

George W Bush won florida.

Case closed. End of story.

Can we please discuss something new?

*sigh*

You just keep on choosing to believe with a double standard.

Kerry was a vietnam hero, despite the evidence.

Bush was a deserter, despite the evidence.

At 8/23/04 06:18 PM, antiklaus wrote: I HAVE already been investigated by the FBI for supposedly being a terrorist, while I was working for an insurance company in Galveston. All for something as simple as trying to make the people I work with abide by the law

Seeing as how you don't know what you're talking about on the forums most of them time I am going to assume you don't the law as well. You were probably being a loudmouth at work, much like you are here, trying to get people to do something which was illegal and it got the attention of law enforcement. If the FBI suspects you are committing insurance fraud it is there job to investigate it.

that and leaving my practice 'elvish script' in my PERSONAL papers.

Maybe it's not a good idea to write things that look like sanscrit when the FBI is investigating you. Even if you did write it in personal papers, if I saw a coworker writing in what I thought was arabic and I knew they were a loudmouthed liberal weirdo or under an open investigation by the feds I would report it too. I thought you were a grown man, what are you doing writing elvish script in the first place?

Anarchy won't ever work as a system because it is by very definition a lack of a system. It wouldn't work for a week without wide spread chaos.

This subject has been discussed before and it's been beaten to death. NEW TOPIC!

Whats with all this nonsense?

Antiklaus cries about the alleged striping away of our rights with the patriot act yet doesn't want people to own assault weapons?

It seems people against assault weapons want to limit rights for sure even when they complain about fictitiously losing rights.

Make up your mind. Do you want your rights protected or taken away, you can't have both.

At 8/23/04 09:02 AM, antiklaus wrote: We see no wars against bricklayers... nor do we see Tobacco companies being invaded and liberated...

Why would you conduct a war against a profession or a company? That doesn't make any sense.

Is the threat really that big a deal that we should so easily surrender our rights?

I'm still trying to think of how I surrendered my rights since 2000. I've flown on a plane, I've voted, I've voiced my opinion, I've worshipped, and I've been thinking about taking a gun safety course.

So when did I surrender any rights? I still live the same as did when Bill Clinton was in office.