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Response to: Opinions on Outsourcing Posted January 30th, 2005 in Politics

At 1/30/05 02:26 PM, BeFell wrote: One thing that people always forget to point is the fact that it is cheaper to build and maintain assembly line robots than to pay an American worker. Outsourcing is used because it is cheaper to pay foreign labor than to build a robot.

well the robots need to be used in semiconductor production are needed no mater what nation your in. the chemicals used in the production is poisionis because silicon, Arsinic and the other two chemicals that are curently eluding my memory are all poisionis to humans and most other living things.

im not saying that all labor needs to be brought back to the US but that instead the human labor is the only difference and its all highly skilled labor. as such it is what you want in your nation, and giving tax brakes to companys to take said jobs to other nations is counterproductive.

Response to: Opinions on Outsourcing Posted January 30th, 2005 in Politics

to thoughs that say the only jobs beeing outsourced are the jobs we dont want then your a bit missguided. we are using indian's and south east asian nations for for computer programing because there better than american programers. we have moved almost all of our high end mass production of pc components to asia as well these are all jobs that are disireable in the US that are no longer here. as Kerry said you cant stop it once its started but there are ways to reduce the amount of outsourcing like not giving tax brakes for the companys that outsource.

Response to: Michael Ross: Should he have died? Posted January 30th, 2005 in Politics

this is a perplexing question in my opinion, you dont want to bend to the will of the person who is being sentanced seen as that defeats the purpous of punishment but at the same time he would be a danger to himself and others if he was serious about wanting to die for what he did.

Response to: Looks like Abbas is doing his part Posted January 30th, 2005 in Politics

At 1/30/05 11:44 AM, jonathan1991 wrote: really when you think about it...

WHO CARES!!!!!
even the arab leaders(ecept jordan, who is the only arab state to give palestinians a citicenship) dont care but say they care because they just want to say bad things about israel.

and hey jordan guy you took my line

heres a question for you how would you like it if i built a fence on your property calming that it was to keep you from messing with my property. i know i would be pissed.

isnt part of peace prosseses treateing each other as you want to be treated so that both sides feel like there is a reason to partisipate in the prosses.

Response to: Looks like Abbas is doing his part Posted January 27th, 2005 in Politics

look there were two terrorists when Arafat (sp) was around we know Arafats(sp) history but Sharon (sp) is equaly bad. the only reason any settalments were closed was because it cost to much to protect them. Sharon (sp) could care less about peace and more about the status quo seen as all his experiance is in War not peace.

Response to: Beyond Redemption? Posted January 25th, 2005 in Politics

At 1/25/05 06:11 PM, BlueMax wrote:
--The idea is that they "deserve" that kind of treatment. In addition, you may prevent them from hurting others. I can understand that viewpoint, but I disagree because I simply do not believe that all people are equal. You are not equal to those people if you kill those people. A person who kills three very guilty people is not a mass murderer--he may even be worthy of praise.

well if you act in that manner then you are disrespecting and breaking the rules layed out in the bill of rights and as such making yourself lesser to everyone else. one follows the rules of there nation even when dealing with mass murderes because to do otherwise is to become as bad as thoughs that comited the crime. we in the US atleast claim to pride ourselves on following the bill or rights and as such we need to follow them and part of that is extending basic human rights to everyone not just citizens.

Response to: The Inmates are running the Asylum Posted January 25th, 2005 in Politics

ok miami is a nation unto itself when it comes to how things work, i have no idea if the people sat on it or if they just followed the ladder of grevances untill it got to the suit, but it doesnt deligitamize the suit.

Response to: The Inmates are running the Asylum Posted January 24th, 2005 in Politics

At 1/24/05 09:26 PM, JusticeofSarcasm wrote: BY any chance have you seen the movie Quills, its just that the name of your thread sounds like a line from the movie.

Anyways, yeah, people will sue for anything. $250 000 for a little bit of tear gas and 5 minutes of "psychological trauma". Hot dam thats more than they would make in like 3 years.

well actuly in miami its more like 15-20 years. but it wouldnt surprise me if the people sueing are well with in there rights, in my two year stay at the university of miami ive read pleanty about police abuse of none resisting or compliant people when given orders.

Response to: canine genocide Posted January 24th, 2005 in Politics

At 1/24/05 10:03 PM, ohp-kyle wrote:
You don't live in a pit; you don't need a pitbull.

do you live in food? cause with that logic you dont need food to live then, granted its apples and oranges but its a ridiculus statement to make.

maybe we should ban all Saudi Arabians from reproducing seen as more modern terrorists and terrorist orginizers have come from there using your logic. simply put you dont judge any group on the deads of the few or even the whole you take it on a case by case prosses.

Response to: already got to work... Posted January 19th, 2005 in Politics

the big problem is that the money the district is being told to hand over is there homland security grant to improve safty around the citys monuments. what is gaulling is that they arent just paying for district cops but also the feds, VA's and MD's budget for the event seen as they also have officers deployed for the event.

Response to: Zack de la Rocha Posted December 10th, 2004 in Politics

im sorry but aparently you dont know who saul williams is.

rage against the machine was ok but there are better political artists out there, check out spoken word artists and also folk artist alot of times they have just as many political messages.

rage was great i guess if you were a middle class kid who didnt get exposed to a wide depth of genres but ohwell.

Response to: Are we safe from Terrorism Posted December 9th, 2004 in Politics

depends on how safe you want to be if you look at the security we curently have its about as safe as pre 9-11. when some one can put a metal pipe through the x-ray scanners for carry on and not have the technitions look at the pipe then then theres a problem.

Response to: Genetic engineering Posted December 9th, 2004 in Politics

At 12/9/04 06:49 PM, TheShrike wrote: Thanks to gene splicing, we've successfully turned a jew into a goddamn christmas tree.

True story.

so the plants are taking over, i guess the Terminator movies got it wrong.

well i dont support genetic engineering but the basic positive aspects are greater yeald of food on less space, food can be more durable/last longer before going bad, prevent illnesses, currect herditary malidys.

Response to: We liberals hate Christmas! Posted December 9th, 2004 in Politics

At 12/9/04 06:35 PM, LazyDrunk320 wrote:
At 12/9/04 06:31 PM, The_Darklands wrote:
At 12/9/04 06:24 PM, LazyDrunk320 wrote:
At 12/9/04 06:13 PM, -Michael- wrote:
Except most liberals, moderate or otherwise, don't hate stupid left-wing maniacs, they embrace them. It's sad.
a worthless generalization unless its terms are defined. Like what the hell is a far left liberal, a hippy or something? Or an ecoterrorist. Im fine with the hippies.
MIchael Moore is a stupid left-wing maniac. He qualifies as the main and most public example of an asshole liberal whom is loved by leftists far and wide.

please insurt your foot in your mouth now im one of thoughs far left people your talking about and i cant stand Moore and so are most of my other friends and they all dont take what he says seriusly.

Response to: Coulter's new column Posted December 8th, 2004 in Politics

she shot herself in the foot by pointing out that the Dems are calling all cabinet and high position holding republicans names and defaming them also. it would be racism if it was only people of a different color of skin as them. but its not as she herself points out.

Response to: Is this considered Illegal? Posted December 8th, 2004 in Politics

At 12/8/04 08:47 PM, spanishfli wrote:
At 12/8/04 08:35 PM, _Thanatopsis_ wrote:
Jack Sturgeses "radiant immages"

Actually, Jock Sturges' "Radiant Identities".

A very stricking piece of art, I wish I can remember more of it. I was 16 or 17 when I got to glimpse a few of his pictures. Sometimes shocking, but not pornographic or sexual. It's beautiful, and it stired quite a contraversey years back if I recall...

yes it is striking, i have only had the ability to watch a projection of the colection in classes. he was arested for child pornography for that colection only to be aquited a year later because it was clear that no mater how shocking it was it didnt fit the criteria for beeing porn.

Response to: Is this considered Illegal? Posted December 8th, 2004 in Politics

At 12/8/04 07:23 PM, spanishfli wrote:
A physical child is involved then... making it illegal. Thus it's not protected speech. However, it also depends on the context of the media.

as i understand it nudity on its own is not illegal no mater what age its the content that comes in to question you cant have a kid riding another kids magic pole for lack of better euphimimes. at the same time though you can show a 3 year old nuid and posed how ever you want as long as its not explicit. an example of this is Jack Sturgeses "radiant immages" (i think thats the colection) which has one contraversial image of a child posed in a way that some has called pornographic and others have not but because its not explicit it is aceptable.

Response to: Ban suburbs Posted December 8th, 2004 in Politics

from beeing in miami for as two years i can difinitvly say that suberbs although there a drain in some ways doesnt mean mean they should be stoped. miami is the traditional 1800's city construction type lots of 2-3 buildings with only afew high rises skyscrapers and large apartment buildings. it is not curently fully able to handle its own infistructure it cant support all the cars that are on the road and there is no way to resolve this problem.

As much a i would like to use dc for the funding issues i cant because its a state unto itself samwitched between VA and MD. Needless to say though DC couldn't support the populations of the suburbs beeing added to its population with out building out to about half the distance the suburbs consume right now. this is the case due to the fact that people moved out of dc to excape the over crowding in the the 70's and 80's. at the same time more and more people flocked to the burbs when they moved to dc because with the avalable housing inside the city it was all in the slums. as such the burbs themselves have become townships all on themselves the town that i live in was able to with public intrest restore and revitalize the historic city that existed around the time of the revolution. at the same time we have an abundent amount of low income housing and support for thoughs who have less than thoughs of us myself included who have been bleesed with more than enough. As such we now have a little Korea, the starts of a little vietman and more cultural diversity than one would expect from a burb. i would agree that the spaceing out of everything makes it farther to drive and as such there is a horable environmental impact but none of the cities ive lived in would make the situation any better.

Response to: Superschools Posted December 7th, 2004 in Politics

comming from a highschool that had around 1000+ students i think its neather detrimental or better for the education system it all depends on if theres enough teachers thats all.

Response to: You can never get even. Posted December 7th, 2004 in Politics

my only objection to the death penalty is that there is alway thoughs wrongly convicted. Due to this we would kill people who do not diserve the death penalty and generaly its not one or two people a year but a far higher number. If we can get the wrongly convicted down to a nearly none existant level then i would be for it.

Response to: My Solution to National Debt... Posted December 6th, 2004 in Politics

At 12/6/04 06:22 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:

That tax system based off sales tax seems smart, except Id buy all my shit overseas and ship it over here. No taxes for me! How wonderful. Would be way to easy to skip taxes with the national sales tax thing. Wish it would work though, seems intriguing.

ok so explain this to me then if you dont have the ability to by your products overseas for less then its going to punish the lower classes who now curently pay little to no taxes because they cant aford the taxes they would be paying. and its going to do this because everything will be signifigantly higher, 22% is what i belive it would need to be to equal what we curently make in income taxes per purchase. so your food costs go up 22% your clothing costs will go up 22% ect ect. now tell me how that would afect a consumer econemy.

Response to: I want a recount!!! Posted December 6th, 2004 in Politics

At 12/6/04 08:05 PM, SpecialK13 wrote: Well recount no more

Wel,l it has all been resolved, so now we can all go home.

well actuly no, now the recount actuly happens. Up till now the official 3rd party sponserd recount wasnt able to happen, as i said the recount is really just there to find out why there were voting annomalies in Ohio.

Response to: Gmail Posted December 5th, 2004 in Politics

At 12/5/04 06:07 PM, CountPoopoo wrote:

Pfffff. EIther you know nothing about the internet or your just doing this on purpose, because you could say goodbye to your privacy looooonng before gmail got here. How do you think spam blockers work? How do you think cookies work? Where do you think your email is stored in the first place?
This is so ignorant, the computer has your emails in the first place. Its scanning your incoming mail for viruses and spam, why can't it scan it for keywords? You think their going to store information about you for the rest of eternity?

mainly im playing devil advocate, cookies and spam though dont actuly identify your adress with you name or ip address. what is actuly violating our privacy is the fbi's ability to run carinor (sp) scans 24/7 on all internet activity not just key words or individual ip servalance.

Response to: Gmail Posted December 5th, 2004 in Politics

At 12/5/04 05:05 PM, redskvnk wrote:
At 12/5/04 03:20 PM, _Thanatopsis_ wrote: there reading your email and compiling an advertisment database on you, so how is that nothing to worry about. my email should not be read for comercial gain.
*shrug*

I don't e-mail people asking how to build bombs... Let's see.. worst things I get is the Young Democratic Socialists newsletter, and they aren't even "real socialists".

You e-mail can be read for commercial gain if you use their service. We all read the fine print while signing up. Right guys?

the problem is not with the how to build bombs material its the simple fact that as a person if you cant have private communications then part of your atonomy and your ability to trust what is beeing sent is reduced.
do you want gmail "scaning" say an intiment email from your girl friend and then putting ads up pertaining to the conversation. i know it would make me think twice before sending the email if my service did that or hers for that matter.

Response to: Gmail Posted December 5th, 2004 in Politics

thats why i didnt sign up for it and i wont.

im sorry but to me scanning ones email is a only at the most a baby step away from reading it.

Response to: Gmail Posted December 5th, 2004 in Politics

At 12/5/04 03:18 PM, BeFell wrote: Oh never mind I found them. That really isn't much to bitch about.

there reading your email and compiling an advertisment database on you, so how is that nothing to worry about. my email should not be read for comercial gain.

Response to: Gmail Posted December 5th, 2004 in Politics

well the first step to resolving the probelm is not to use Gmail, to not click on the adds and show that we as people dont want advertising to be the sole driving force of the net. the greater problem is that everything from the film world to the news is now completely market driven and there is little care about real info.

Response to: The Next Vietnam? Posted December 4th, 2004 in Politics

well i would say were eather a or b and heres why the US and Britian originaly were alies with Ho chi min (sorry if i miss spelled the name) in wwII and then when his ideologies came in to play we had problems. theres a strong similarity in how we dealt with Iraq when we gave them the info on how to make weapons of mass distrucion to aid in fighting Iran.

Personaly i think were a bit more of france right now seen as we are trying really hard right now just to keep what little order and control over the nation that we curently have.

Response to: I want a recount!!! Posted December 4th, 2004 in Politics

At 12/4/04 05:51 PM, Hammurabi3 wrote:
Either way, we are fucked. That is why we need a NATIONAL election commission that is non-partisan or bi-partisan. We need to wrest electoral control from the states and bring it to the federal government. The concept of "states' rights" is oppressive anyway, as Southern slavery, segregation, the electoral college, and the voter frauds have shown. The states are too autonomous. The federal government really needs to start cracking down on them.

believe it or not if the states rights are disoved i WILL leave the country. we have states rights so that its harder for a true dictitiorial power to take over. i wouldnt want one body of law determining what legal protection i have curently you have 2 as a minimum and generaly 3 bodies making laws for you. this helps us because the federal gov doesnt know what legal protections people in your county need inparticuly that is different than from another state. along with that the death penalty would be aplicable for everyone in reducing or eliminating most to all state power.

Response to: I want a recount!!! Posted December 4th, 2004 in Politics

At 12/4/04 05:50 PM, AntiangelicAngel wrote:
At 12/4/04 05:33 PM, _Thanatopsis_ wrote: along with verifying the vote the recount will also determin were the brakedown in the intial vote count happend.
Holy shit... a good reason other than "Because we have a fascist texan retarted cowboy governing our affairs."

scratches head

i would have thought that logic was common place in the the US but ohwell. to me the curent recounts arent about geting a new prez, because that isnt going to happen, its to find out why the e-voting and optical scaners didnt work properly so that they can be improved so that they work properly.

we know that with a ruffly 3 million person popular win spread out over all the states he won its highly improbable that bush didnt win but i do want to know why the dam voting devices malfuntioned and why there were voting iregularities.