At 4/16/08 12:16 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:
At 4/15/08 02:55 PM, tawc wrote:
At 4/15/08 12:25 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:
At 4/14/08 01:32 PM, tawc wrote:
Complete bullshit!! I remember the german school shooting more than columbine, just because the American media didn't make much of it, doesn't mean the European ones didn't.
Nope. If European media, especially British media actually covered it openly and fairly compared to how they covered Columbine, it would have taken they weight out of their argument that school shootings only take place in America, and that this is because of gun control. Instead of the years and years of constant "OMG AMERIKKKA COLUMBINED GUN CONTROL LOLZ", they would have covered school shootings that were worse and were closer to home.
lol, I would love to see some fucking American coverage of the German killings compared to the British coverate, American media is so focused on inside America and news to do with America.
You jump to conclusions, that British media is biased, when there are simple reasons why columbine got more attention than the german one.
Besides the amount of people the Erfurt massacre killed, it wasn't paticulaly anything new. And anyway... were you actually in Britain at the time to witness this terrible media bias? Did you read the British newspapers and watch the British News?
Because I was in Britain and allthough I was young and didn't really pay much attention to news. You may not belive me but The German shooting, along with 9/11 (and war against terrorism), A massacre in a hall in Russia or Eastern Europe and various other events, I remember being major news items. And that had alot of talking about afterwoodss by adults, in school assemblys and by parents.
I think I remeber my parents talking about Columbine and Dunblane, but I was very young then.#
Columbine Is the most significant school shooting, It showed huge amounts of things. Like I have said before but you chose to ignore. There was two of them, They were into the gothic lifestyle and music, COMPUTER GAMES, TRENCH COATS, they had a fucking arsenal of guns and explosive, it was planned out to very small details, these details were shown to the public. Along with video footage from them videoing themselves before hand, and CCTV. The Police stand off hand massive coverage. There was glimpse at the lives of the two shooters.
The Erfurt massacre had some of these things as well. And because of that, they were already known because of columbine. Violent music/video games and lifestyles were already being accused because of columbine. That is why Columbine has a more lasting effect. It was the first to shed light.
You are the one who is biased, be it because of biased american media or what. The Reason Columbine, Amish and V tech are more covered and now more remembered than European shootings is obvious.
Columbine because of what I have stated.
Amish shooting because of the terrible irony and the fact that it was young children. Much like Dunblane.
V-tech, because it was only last year and the shear number of casulties.
There are a number of shootings between all these, which I have never hered of. That Red lake school shooting I only know of because the cunt had a newgrounds account. And people talk about him on here.
Do I need to remind you of our previous encounters again...?
Please do, you sad little cunt, showing other threads completly irrelivant to this one, does not in any circumstance make me give a shit.
Pathetic. Post away.
Not only did it get a lot of coverage due to bias at large, but also because people in European and British media wanted to use it for a specific political point. They were using it as ammunition (pun) to take gun control out of context and attack America.
hahahaa, Listen to your self, whos the one whos being brainwashed? I hope these are your own little ideas and conspiracys, because if it's the american media feeding you this, then they are bodering on totatlarian lol which even me the brainwashed british prick knows isn't true.
In order to fortify this propaganda they implant into your head, they cover other shootings, and other issues related to gun control as a whole in a certain way to preserve it.
lol
If there's a shooting in America, one of the first things you see on your ridiculous media is "OMG we told them so! Americans and their guns! Damn them!". Then there's a shooting in Germany "Oh, this is awful..." with no mention of the fact that Germany has strict gun control and yet the shooting still took place.
Complete bullshit
The German shooting you mentioned, and were talking about....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th e Erfurt shooting was carried out with legally owned firearms. The German goverment then decided to bring more Gun control. I don't even know if it's paticulaly outlawed now.
The Amish school shooting had such large coverage because they were Amish!
V-tech because it was so massive.
Dunblane, because it was in Britain and it caused the Ban on handguns.
Germany and Finland because they were in europe.
Emphasizing school shootings anyway a evidence of bad gun control is completely illogical. I guess to you, you'd rather have more people die as a whole, as long as there is less school shootings.
In my responding post to start of, I just stated that you give me a load of statistics showing how gun crime has gone up since the ban on guns. And I don't belive that it's because of the gun ban. I belive it's because of the rise of gang culture. That was it, I wasn't asking you to show me the same statistics and basically the same post you show everytime, which I was responding against.
My main point was a question about school shootings, I was asking why there was a huge amount of school shootings in the US compared to elsewere. And of course, when you openly admitted that you thought of commiting homocide :)
You're assuming that banning guns in the US will make things better. I showed you it won't, you ignored it. I also showed you how gun problems have got progressively worse in your own country since your draconian gun laws were enforced, you ignored that as well. I showed you that the areas of your country that had the most legally owned guns had the least crime, and the areas where there were the least amount of guns there was the most crime, you ignored that.
So instead you focus on school shootings.
Funny.
You know there have been several cases of you getting completely disproved, and yet you keep arguing your point anyway. You epitomize bias. You're so biased that even when what you say gets literally proved wrong without a shadow of doubt, you start swearing compulsively, run away from the thread, only to argue the very same thing again that was previously disproved.