At 4/26/09 09:44 PM, Gendo wrote: Bought some Swans and PiL on vinyl.

Now to invest in a better turntable.

Awesome possum! Wish I had a job, J.G. Thirlwell has released the first soundtrack for Venture Bros. on CD. :(

At 4/26/09 08:55 PM, Warrickneff wrote: much of this music appears to be along the lines of futurism

I must strongly disagree. While I know that Noise music originated from them, they had specific goals with the image - dynamic and a celebration of the machine age. I don't hear that with these people.

Plus, Marinetti would laugh at Orphan Fairytale, because she's a woman. Then he's punch her in the fucking face and drive a train over her.

At 4/26/09 08:46 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: Look, NOT ALL JAZZ IS SWING MUSIC, OK?!?!?!

I just don't really get what constitutes Jazz anymore. I mean, I've got plenty of stuff that I'm told is Jazz (Monk, Miles, Charlie & His Orchestra (NSSwing!).

Having said all that, I don't understand how, say, James Chance is considered Jazz, whereas the X-Ray Spex aren't.

Oh well, I like it all. :D

At 4/26/09 08:35 PM, CefyJr wrote: This isn't jazz at all. I can't comprehend how ANYONE would mistake it for jazz.

Hey, it's not me that are calling them Jazz. I do love them, but I don't see them as being, well, Jazzy.

REAL men Nazi hard.

Remind her what Pope Pius XI said about Il Duce, if I recall correctly, he called him "a gift from God". Get your class donning their Blackshirts.

At 4/26/09 08:14 PM, smeagol1 wrote: Im sorry, but I just had to post this lol!

Poser

I'm.....I'm scared. Hold me. Don't let it eat me.

A few cocktails, a night in front of the History Channel, lamenting the outcome of WW2 and later on, lisening to the new J.G. Thirwell release.

At 4/26/09 08:15 PM, East525 wrote: To me, the idea of love is completely blown out of proportion in society

But most people don't seem to believe in love.

I disagree with you, love is an emotional attachment and, according to psychologists, there are 57 different types.

Now, we all knowl that Jazz has a history of being "wild". More recently though, Jazz bands are going full on into the territory of Noise music.

Nmperign, Jason Lescallet, Sedonna Vortex, UFO Hotspot, Günther Müller, Jazzfinger, Orphan Fairytale and Heathen Shame to name a few. But there are many, many more. It seems that you can't go to an Experimental or an Avant-Garde festival without encountering this.

Now, there does seem to be a bit of lip service to Drone music, sometimes they seem to explore Minimalism, but I honestly have a hard time calling these musicians "Jazz", although most others disagree.

What say you?

Links for your pleasure:
Nmperign
Jason Lescalleet
Heathen Shame
Günther Müller
Jazzfinger
Orphan Fairytale
MOAR ORPHAN FAIRYTALE! (not like the rest of her stuff tho)

At 4/26/09 07:43 PM, Michaelas10 wrote: We live in a deterministic world. Who cares.

Screw you, we live in a Fatalistic world!

At 4/26/09 07:39 PM, DM692 wrote: (226 views * 22 replies)

A 10% reply rate. How depressing.

A smidge over 10%, but that is a very good reply rate for NG BBS. At least, it was in my day.

You know what would be ironic? If you didn't go! Aw man, I crack myself up.

At 4/26/09 07:34 PM, aquaticmole wrote: Eh, I guess I don't get complaints about my clothes so that's good.

Most people in my country wear tracksuits. If you wear a shirt with a band name, they will shout it at you in derision. Please, kill Scotland.

You don't shake hands, you doff your hat, or, if unhatted, you bow. I recommend reading The Chap periodical, it'll transform your life.

Why, I'd blow up Earth with my MEGA-LAZER®.

It's 3 AM! She wont make out! Let's go make out with her friends! Make out with her friends-ends!

Oh, wait, it's not that one?

I listened for a few seconds, decided that I liked and I'd rather wait for Mrs. ZAAL to pick it up so we can hav a listening party together. It'll be great, there'll be white chocolate mints, bacardi breezers and crisps and nuts and chinchillas (not to eat, to play with (no, not like that (or perhaps.....

Not fashionable, but I have a certain chic. I usually wear trainers (Vans, ethnies, just skater trainers really, nothing too fancy), jet black cargo trousers, my favourite Nitzer Ebb workshirt and I carry my trust Industrial Records knife with me.

No, I don't wear my Devo hat with this, Jesus Christ!

The Threshold HouseBoy's Choir is playing on Sunday, but I shant go. I seen Focus the other week on a night that I was supposed to be spending with Mrs. ZAAL and I'm not doing that again.

No, she wont appreciate all the gory footage of self mutilation. I have recurring dreams about seeing Throbbing Gristle play and this is the nearest that I'll come, but I shant go. Could I even go see TG if they did come? What if Genesis flashes his tits? We're a bit on the right, she wouldn't even want to look at him.

Anywhoo, we all know the journalistic concept behind Industrial music. It's all about the urban decay in our post-modern societies. Very often, Fascism is used as an ironic tool of critique, without any though given to the validity of such a system.

In any case, I've noticed a few things.....

Mindless Self Indulgence. That becomes MSI. MSI is shorthand for Movimento Sociale Italiano - the direct succesor to Mussolini's PNF.

VNV Nation. VNV was the Vlaamsch Nationaal Verbond - Belgian Fascists.

D.A.F. is, of course, Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF). (PS. check out how UBER the flag for the DAF was)

Cabaret Voltaire. CV was the Cartellverband der katholischen deutschen Studentenverbindungen (CV). Originally a Catholic based umbrella orginisation of Catholic male student fraternities, it fell under control of the NSDAP.

David Bowie done an Industrial record. DB = Deutsche Bank. They introduced Bayer to the German stock market. Bayer manufactured Zycklon B. The bank was very complicit with the NSDAP, loaned money for building concentration camps, etc.

Fad Gadget = FG = Fallschirmjäger = Nazi Paratroopers

Decoded Feedback=DF=Dansk Folkeparti (often accused of being Nazis, they are like a Danish BNP)

I could go on forever. Sadly, I couldn't come up with one for Test Dept. =(

At 4/26/09 03:39 PM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote: "Free will" is how people make it through the day, how they can still believe in a God while witnessing all of the bad things that happen on this Earth. It's how the far-fetched becomes near-fetched.

Meh, plenty of religions show "God" or deities acting with malice.

At 4/26/09 04:45 PM, MadiiMonsterr wrote:

At 4/26/09 04:42 PM, Mendou wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUHCl4TUd TA

One of the more creepy music videos that I've ever seen, excellent song as well.

That one frightened me a bit.

They're a great band and most of their videos are great. Blume is a bit dull, but it's got intourami in the background!

Also, check out anything by The Residents, they're wacky too.

At 4/26/09 03:30 PM, DM692 wrote: How can we have free will AND do whatever we want during our lives? It doesn't add up. If we really did have free will, God wouldn't know what wouldn't be able to know what would happen every millisecond of our lives.

Where, in The Bible does it say you have freewill? Where, in The Holy Bible, does it call God omnipotent? If you've read it, Yahweh/God/Allah/Jehovah/The Demiurge/whatever you want to call it, isn't omnipotent, but closer to being a deity. Well, in the sense you talk off.

If we are talking Gnostic Christianity, then God didn't create the world, the Demiurge did and God is certainly almighty, but he didn't make the world, otherwise, please bin your notion of "God" as omnipotent.

At 4/26/09 01:40 PM, The777Demon wrote: Well I don't do drugs,

Big gangja leaf as your icon!

I'm not gay

But I'll wager that you believe them to be equal to you.

and did you mean undermentioned?
No, it's a Germanic word. It is roughly translated as "subhuman".

As for feeling guilt about your actions that symbolizes a person with morality.

My actions? How dare you make me the supposed character in the amoral camp?!

Someone who, say, hires a prostitute and then feels remorse is still amoral.

At 4/26/09 03:03 PM, BigLundi wrote: No it isn't! I asked my Spanish teacher

You couldn't research this on your own or even ask an ENGLISH teacher?

It's dead akward when you wake up, your boxers soaked in piss, the acrid smell permeating the room and you have to go and clean up before your other half notices.

At 4/26/09 02:57 PM, BigLundi wrote:

At 4/26/09 02:56 PM, StationToStation wrote: At first I was offended, but I am a blond, not a blonde, so I guess I'm not included.

It's spelled both ways faggot!

It varies depending upon the sex that you are speaking of, you dunce!

The atomic bomb is an extension of war and war is what we are, war is not an invention.

Now, I would have to look at culture. Obviously I can't choose anything architectural, after all, these are also an extension of nature, we used to have caves, but now we have houses.

I choose National Socialism.

At first I was offended, but I am a blond, not a blonde, so I guess I'm not included.

At 4/26/09 02:08 PM, Achilles2 wrote: And where did he say this again?

He made a value judgement that racism is worse when it is directed towards diferent groups of black people.

And what was the date that you've met every black person alive right now?

Yeah, I'm talking about generalisations. The fact is that I haven't met a friendly black.

Yes you do. You owe us, as well as everyone else on this planet, a basic sense of respect.

No I don't. Where did this magical right for respect come from? Why is it right? Mabye in America blacks are nice, decent people, but not in Scotland.

At 4/26/09 01:35 PM, The777Demon wrote: It seems to me that people with strong moral principles are generally miserable, while amoral people run around doing what they want and having a good time.

It seems to me that you're an idiot. I know amoral people who feel guilt at the way they live, while those I know who have a strong set of moral belief (including myself) are content.

I'm guessing that you're a slag/drug user/faggot/your untermensch position here and it annoys you that other people aren't.